Gh dosage for fat loss

[roastdawg]

I never get any fat loss with gh. Only ever used generics but have always tested igf levels and they've come back elevated up above 400 from a baseline of about 200. I'm gonna try pharm grade to see if there's a noticeable difference, what's the optimal dosage for burning some body fat?

 

[88general88]

4ius split 1iu am and 3iu pm before bed. I have had great experience with them all. Generic and pharma, however, the serostim was always on a level of its own. If you are looking for the fat burning qualities of Hgh why not use hgh frag 176-191 ?? I understand there are obvious added benefits to using all 191 aminos but honestly, i wouldn’t dive into paying for pharma grade Gh if you are mainly concerned with fat loss. If I was looking for fat loss, with added muscle benefits there are far superior compounds. There are a lot of moving pieces to being able to get the most out of using Hgh. It’s not as easy as mixing in bacteriostatic h20 and slamming away.

I feel like 400 is just average as far as igf1 is concerned. Not really something to base your fat loss off of though.

 

[lilhawk]

I use currently 6iu serostim. 2iu am fasted, 2iu pre workout, 2iu before bed. 500mg of metformin twice daily and T3, T4 combo. Works very well for fat loss.

 

[88general88]

I use currently 6iu serostim. 2iu am fasted, 2iu pre workout, 2iu before bed. 500mg of metformin twice daily and T3, T4 combo. Works very well for fat loss.

I am pretty sure the question was not what compounds are you using with Gh to get fat loss. He wanted to know how many iu’s to use to get the most fat loss out of his Gh??

 

[Mayne]

That is also in the answer, and the more detail added isn't exactly against what would be "optimal". I personally experienced great body recomposition on 4 IU 2/2 AM/PM and fasting between 2 and 4 hours around each injection.

 

[roastdawg]

4ius split 1iu am and 3iu pm before bed. I have had great experience with them all. Generic and pharma, however, the serostim was always on a level of its own. If you are looking for the fat burning qualities of Hgh why not use hgh frag 176-191 ?? I understand there are obvious added benefits to using all 191 aminos but honestly, i wouldn’t dive into paying for pharma grade Gh if you are mainly concerned with fat loss. If I was looking for fat loss, with added muscle benefits there are far superior compounds. There are a lot of moving pieces to being able to get the most out of using Hgh. It’s not as easy as mixing in bacteriostatic h20 and slamming away.

I feel like 400 is just average as far as igf1 is concerned. Not really something to base your fat loss off of though.

I also enjoy the healing abilities of gh as far as minor tendon issues and such, I feel like it's helped quite a bit in that regard. That's the main reason I've kept taking it as like I've said I haven't noticed any fat loss to speak of.

 

[roastdawg]

That is also in the answer, and the more detail added isn't exactly against what would be "optimal". I personally experienced great body recomposition on 4 IU 2/2 AM/PM and fasting between 2 and 4 hours around each injection.

Both of you are using twice a day, I only use am. Maybe something to that

 

[little]

I don’t notice any difference in fat loss at 2iu 3 times a day vs 6iu before bed at once

Diet

 

[TideGear]

I use currently 6iu serostim. 2iu am fasted, 2iu pre workout, 2iu before bed. 500mg of metformin twice daily and T3, T4 combo. Works very well for fat loss.

I was considering something similar. Do you think 8iu is ok without slin or anything to control blood sugar?

 

[lilhawk]

I was considering something similar. Do you think 8iu is ok without slin or anything to control blood sugar?

It all varies from person to person as far as how much you can use before BG creeps up. Mine starts getting to higher end of normal when I use 5-6iu. Metformin has corrected that problem in a hurry though. Pumps are much more pronounced since I started taking it as well. Gonna bump my dose up to 8iu soon as well. Love the results it gives at 6iu though.

 

[lilhawk]

I am pretty sure the question was not what compounds are you using with Gh to get fat loss. He wanted to know how many iu’s to use to get the most fat loss out of his Gh??

Oh excuse the extra detail. This is what is optimal to get the most out of GH, or at least what I find optimal from my bloodwork. The dosage of GH doesn’t change as far as what is optimal. The effects are enhanced by adding the T3, T4 and metformin.

 

[fodsod]

You want results that you'll see pretty quick and that will be noticeable?

Then don't screw around with small GH doses. Yeah, I know all the studies say 1-3 ius daily is optimal and all that but I've seen too many guys take small amounts and see nothing from it really. I've never seen anyone take larger doses with some other stuff thrown in and not see results.

I've run Seros at 9 ius daily and also at 18 ius EOD getting ready for shows and did zero cardio. Still had to diet but did no cardio and came in 5-6% bf. I've also prepped on generics at 8-10 ius daily with similar results.

10-12 ius ED split into 3-4 doses. AM fasted and stay fasted for at least 2 hours with cardio if possible. Pre-wo, Post wo (cardio here if not in the a.m.) and before bed fasted also.

Add in clen (or similar) and t3 then implement some carb cycling so you have 3 days in a deficit, 2 days at maintenance and 2 days in a slight surplus.

100% guaranteed you'll see bf loss like never before. Yes, you could do all that without GH and see results also but the GH will enhance the effect and keep you big and full while you do it.

Also, I never said it was healthy either. I just hear the lack luster GH reports all the time and the common denominator is always not enough is being used imo.

 

[fodsod]

I was considering something similar. Do you think 8iu is ok without slin or anything to control blood sugar?

Add Berberine daily at 1200 mgs split into 2 doses as a preventative measure. Save the Metformin to bail you out if things get out of hand.

 

[roastdawg]

You want results that you'll see pretty quick and that will be noticeable?

Then don't screw around with small GH doses. Yeah, I know all the studies say 1-3 ius daily is optimal and all that but I've seen too many guys take small amounts and see nothing from it really. I've never seen anyone take larger doses with some other stuff thrown in and not see results.

I've run Seros at 9 ius daily and also at 18 ius EOD getting ready for shows and did zero cardio. Still had to diet but did no cardio and came in 5-6% bf. I've also prepped on generics at 8-10 ius daily with similar results.

10-12 ius ED split into 3-4 doses. AM fasted and stay fasted for at least 2 hours with cardio if possible. Pre-wo, Post wo (cardio here if not in the a.m.) and before bed fasted also.

Add in clen (or similar) and t3 then implement some carb cycling so you have 3 days in a deficit, 2 days at maintenance and 2 days in a slight surplus.

100% guaranteed you'll see bf loss like never before. Yes, you could do all that without GH and see results also but the GH will enhance the effect and keep you big and full while you do it.

Also, I never said it was healthy either. I just hear the lack luster GH reports all the time and the common denominator is always not enough is being used imo.

No insulin needed?

 

[5millionbucks]

why dont you use mk677 since 25mg is supposedly an equivalent to 2-3iu of pharma grade growth; it does have lots of side effects like bloating and digestive issues from what I hear since it is ghrelin technically. I wonder if there are any fat loss with mk677 though like GH; since it does make one super fucking hungry and fucks with BG like crazy.

 

[fodsod]

No insulin needed?

See my last post. Insulin could be used but he wants to get leaner and
if he uses Berberine or Metformin he'll be fine.

Insulin just complicates things most of the time and should be used for advanced protocols where you have someone that really know how to implement it so it works with you to meet your goals not against you.

You see a small jump in blood sugar after your GH shot but to see the fasted number go up daily takes some time even at pretty large GH doses. It's not like it happens in a week. We;'re talking months and the diet you're following is also important.

You'd see far less BS issues on a prep diet at lower carb levels with really low or zero days in there than a bulk diet running 600-800 grams of carbs daily.

 

[fodsod]

why dont you use mk677 since 25mg is supposedly an equivalent to 2-3iu of pharma grade growth; it does have lots of side effects like bloating and digestive issues from what I hear since it is ghrelin technically. I wonder if there are any fat loss with mk677 though like GH; since it does make one super fucking hungry and fucks with BG like crazy.

MK is great for bulking but does not contribute to fat loss the way GH does. I've experimented with it quite a bit and have not seen any reduction in bf like you would see with actual GH. I have several posts about it with blood work and even added into the end of a 6 month GH run. I did see an IGF increase in that scenario but no measurable fat loss even at 50mgs ED.

As far as I've seen no one has really shown MK to contribute to fat loss except the people trying to sell it to you. It is a spectacular addition during a bulking period though.

 

[5millionbucks]

MK is great for bulking but does not contribute to fat loss the way GH does. I've experimented with it quite a bit and have not seen any reduction in bf like you would see with actual GH. I have several posts about it with blood work and even added into the end of a 6 month GH run. I did see an IGF increase in that scenario but no measurable fat loss even at 50mgs ED.

As far as I've seen no one has really shown MK to contribute to fat loss except the people trying to sell it to you. It is a spectacular addition during a bulking period though.

yea I heard the strength gains are crazy on mk677 compared to hgh; me running growth I'm slightly able maintain bodyfat(im bloated now) at 2-2.5 IU daily of generics; strength gains I get way better strength gains running something natural like creatine mono or arachidonic acid. All my friends who dont lift tell me yo I wanna hop on HGH and get jacked; I'm like bro its not worth your time and money and only reason I take it is because of my bulged disc on my cervical spine and a slight tear on my rotator cuff thats been getting better. Overall the HGH costs less than surgery itself; on top I get better skin, slight leanness, sleep and recovery. But with mk677 how bad is the bloat; I'm assuming its similar to like a dbol bloat am I right? OR did you not bloat on it?

 

[fodsod]

yea I heard the strength gains are crazy on mk677 compared to hgh; me running growth I'm slightly able maintain bodyfat(im bloated now) at 2-2.5 IU daily of generics; strength gains I get way better strength gains running something natural like creatine mono or arachidonic acid. All my friends who dont lift tell me yo I wanna hop on HGH and get jacked; I'm like bro its not worth your time and money and only reason I take it is because of my bulged disc on my cervical spine and a slight tear on my rotator cuff thats been getting better. Overall the HGH costs less than surgery itself; on top I get better skin, slight leanness, sleep and recovery. But with mk677 how bad is the bloat; I'm assuming its similar to like a dbol bloat am I right? OR did you not bloat on it?

Bloating on MK is pretty bad. Especially between 25-50 mgs ED. I will say that a lot of the fluid is intramuscular and you stay very full and strong but once you spill over the sock rings, swollen hands and lower back pumps are unavoidable. The pumps while training are spectacular and almost painful.

 

[5millionbucks]

Bloating on MK is pretty bad. Especially between 25-50 mgs ED. I will say that a lot of the fluid is intramuscular and you stay very full and strong but once you spill over the sock rings, swollen hands and lower back pumps are unavoidable. The pumps while training are spectacular and almost painful.

yea I just bought some from maresearch mk677; going to make a switch and run 12.5mg of it before bed 5x a week. To see how it compares. It seems to me most people who've run pharma growth said the difference between the generics and pharma are day and night; even if your comparing 2-4iu vs 8iu of generics, and I mean people who get their supplies from aids patients or directly prescribed it regardless of igf levels.