GHRP-6 UPDATE PLEASE...

[BBC3]

I have read many of the available posts. The info here looks limited at best still. So WHAT exactly do WE know here at MESO about this stuff.? Please also include knowledge base of GHRP-2 as/IF Applicable.

1. What can I expect to FEEL.?
2. What can I expect to PROFIT.?
3. Is there any HEALTH or "Healing Value" to this stuff even if not training?
4. Is it worth attempting as general "Health Elixir"..?
5. Do other medications, foods, activities, etc involve with the stuff/ and PRO or CON..?
6. How to take? Around meals, exercise, family, etc ...
7. WHAT IS THE WORST THAT COULD HAPPEN..??? !!!!!!!!! ?
8. Concomitant Cross-over risk Potential..? E.G. If I am taking Opiod Modulators like Hydrocodone, OR if I am taking Narcotics Like AMPHETAMINES. Is there any chance that it is going to cause CHANGES to these receptors in an unfavorable manner?

** The long and short is that THIS(the following) is my INTERPRETATION from research to date. GHRP-6 Appears to be a potent DNA MODULATOR, as well as POTENTIALLY as DNA CREATOR..! Meaning that it appears that it is a custom blend and combination of 15 or so of the LIFE-BLOOD proteins/amino acids which COMPRISE out DNA. The same ones which "Steroids" are stated to increase the SYNTHESIS thereof. Synthesis I DEFINE as formation from where there was not before.

Now here is the MAGIC TRICK which I am interpreting this stuff to perform... Unlike applying Synthetic GH or IGF-1 (which I have concluded is INSANITY to some degree), the GHRP-6 is actually ORDERING YOUR BRAIN to ENACT the Pituitary to produce YOUR OWN GH. So here is the DIFFERENCE which I am discerning / and THIS IS IMPORTANT...! So correct me if wrong...!!! If one were to apply Synthetic GH or IGF-1 straigh up, This is to toss jet fuel on the Bonfire which is our body and in the good faith that our body as CURRENT DNA Condition REMAINS INTACT. Thus to use GH or IGF-1 comes with the extreme risk of GROWING CORRUPT DNA even WORSE. AKA - feeding the ultimate "cancer fire".

To Utilize GHRP-6 is to ORDER your body to manufacture ITS OWN GH...

So this is where This "TRICK" gets really mystically wonderful now. Because by forcing your body to manufacture YOUR OWN GH. Is to have your body CORRECTLY REGENERATE it's OWN DNA and BACK TO a Healthy State.!!! (am i getting this?) But you are making YOUR OWN as Opposed to FOREIGN, with YOUR CODE. You are MAKING YOUR OWN DNA VS. Gross/bulk foreign GH which has NO RELATION to your DNA..! This is opposed to the application of a synthetic form of GH applied WHICH would NOT be recognized by the body as "CORRECT", and NOT recognized by the body SYSTEMICALLY. Thus the system does not TRULY see it. Thus the FAILURE of across-the-board Gross GROWING of whatever currently exists occurs as a failure to SOME or even MANY... Thus while some get away with if if HEALTHY, NONE MANUFACTURE NEW SOURCE BASE DNA GENERATING BASE CODE CELLS. which appears to be this possibility with GHRP6!!!
*** This would mean that IGF-1 Users are at the greatest risk of this kind of "Unintentional Cell Perversion" if I am tracking on line and center..!

In summary. The advent of the mapping of the human genome which I recall being announced some five years back has given science the full and complete toolbox which is the reason for all the peptides now available. Thru Peptides, or Custom blends of amino acids, which before only the body could make, we now have a full and complete tool set to do some SERIOUS TINKERING... I have actually seen companies that have MASSIVE ARRAYS of peptide blends currently available for RESEARCH.. Its absolutely MIND BOGGLING this EXCITEMENT..!!!! I further speculate that not only has the Proverbial Ponce DeLeon FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH BEEN LOCATED. But you can now have it shipped to your door to experiment with..??!!!!!!!!!? In short, I SPECULATE that not only can you CONTROL the Clock and Stop it in very many ways. But we MAY actually be able to TURN IT BACK if I am reading this mega-wind correct??

And my thing about saying that Your body is made/forced/ordered to CREATE its OWN GH, this is a strong statement. Because what this would mean, is that UNLESS YOUR PITUITARY has been corrupted on a GENETIC LEVEL. Then you basically have your own "Master Stem Root". And YOURS ALONE. Which is the ONE you need. To REPLENISH YOUR DNA to FRESH AND NEW. As opposed to simply tossing gas on a potentially corrupt FIRE (GH & IGF-1). And if this were the case, this this research product would even outweigh SOME/many cancers in progress and depending on their TYPE/extent/action completed.. But I can see where if the Root cells in place at LOCAL Areas is corrupt, then the end result will still be more gross ugly and wrong Action./ But as long as the cancer was 'young', or of a type which "Grows ON and NOT IN & OF the CELL base". Then GHRP-6 might even be the cure for these failures..?? YES?? or not???

Then with consideration for REVERSE LOOP FEED-Back and if it should exist with GHRP-6, we have to analyze WHAT IS IT that drives the pituitary to produce GH as a PRIMARY REASON? And as ADULTS..? I am thinking the answer is Multi-Pronged...:

1) Normal cellular reproduction. EG - Skin cells die thru normal use & wear. Apoptosis occurs naturally and the pituitary is what tells the body to make new. As well as HOW CORRECTLY *The new ones are made* (NOTE HERE LATER)..

2) Injury and Illness REPAIRz. You break a bone. Gh is produced at a faster rate to heal it. You get an illness. GH is produced to manufacture the mechanisms which generate white blood cells, etc...

3) You breath Air and expel CO2. GH creates and replenishes the blood cells that carry the O2 which you extract and deliver From body said CO2 spawned...

SO WHAT IS THE RISK from REVERSE LOOP FAILURE OCCURRING which could potentially be DEVASTATING should your pituitary no longer manufacture GH "normally" once the GHRP-6 is removed...!!! Right? So this is important analysis for sure...!

Now if The pituitary is motivated to produce Endogenous GH by the above listed factors as MINIMALLY, this is a start and enough of one for sound consideration.

a) These factors will remain in play ALWAYS and during GHRP administration.

b) Will GHRP usage Diminish and "Deafen" the body's NORMAL Capacity for Supply and Demand of Endogenous GH production ONCE the GHRP is removed. * This is important because it is a tale that will not only be tough to qualify and quantify, but it will take TIME to see the truth of it. And should the truth be UGLY. It will be the biggest horror flick you ever went to...!

c) OR, Are we simply providing a "false stimulus" and just the same as a "FAKE BROKEN BONE" to ramp up and expedite production temporarily? Which would then most like have ZERO Reverse feedback associated. As you are simply SIMULATING HEALING A BROKEN LIMB.. For a While..

d) And ALL THAT SAID. Just what is the healthy lifespan of the Pituitary Gland?? And does application of GHRP-6 REPLENISH the DNA of the Pituitary its self (This may appear to be the fatal flaw of it as how to fix the car, the engine must usually be OFF..!)

e) And THEN NOW. Does overworking the pituitary take a toll which is not compensated if in fact the pituitary IRONICALLY is the only tissue which possible CAN NOT benefit from the GHRP.? What is the healthy lifespan of a Pituitary gland. Does the potential that I am a Secondary Hypo-gonadal IN FACT MEAN that my pituitary is already CORRUPT?!? Could this actually be proof as to whether a Secondary is really a secondary, or simply the body's own correct adjustment to local tissue conditions/ which is what I accuse to be the truth of "TRT subjects" as a TRUE MAJORITY. (speaking of when are they going to come out with second season of TRUE Detective ? LOL?)!

f) In FACT, does this CONUNDRUM/ The potential failure of the pituitary being the only tissue that can't be regenerated as due to busy in action / actually cause a "SYSTEM IMPLOSION"? In that life giving SOURCE/Endogenous GH is created, but can not interact with its own maker (your pituitary which is busy at the time of service)?? !!!!! ?

I have more thoughts but I leave you with this please I need info quick as possible plz.. Do NOT be distracted by standard comedy routine plz focus on questions. Answer within text quotes if necessary. I will look and see.. TIA !!

Feedback Please...

Many thanks in advance..

 

[brutus79]

Ghrp6 is a first gen ghrp. Ghrp2 is better for the gh production goal you are looking to produce (more specialized/refined) and hexarelin is super strong. Hexarelin, ghrp2 and 6 all boost cortisol and prolactin with hexarelin being the worst offender. As far as a ghrp with none of these sides imaporelin is the way to go.

Ghrp's are close to worthless if you do not also use a ghrh (cjc no dac as that produces a pulse while the dac produces a fruitless slow bleed). You need a producer (ghrp) and a release (ghrh).

In my opinion having used them for some time as well as using synthetic pharm and generic gh is that they are mostly hype. They are a fucking pain in the ass with carb timing, 4-6 pins a day is a pain in the ass, the fact that there is no qc is pathetic (very hit or miss with quality- and you can only go by "sides" as there are no tests for them).

Your body figures out that you are whoring the pituitary out for gh within 6-8 weeks and you have to hop off for a few weeks- whether this is the reason igf levels don't stay elevated or if it is because they are worthless overall is debatable. .. but at the end of the day the health benefits are to be had by taking pharm gh. Everything else is a hit or miss waste of time imo.

If you take them anyway expect hunger paons from ghrp 6 and 2, achy joints and pain/swelling/lumps at injection site. Marginal fat loss. Not much else.

 

[hotdog23]

I didn't read all that but I think your missing the part about bio identical rhgh. Synthetic GH is not gonna disrupt cell replication? That's a natural result of oxidation or age or watever . If that corruption is already present it can propagate that dysfunction but not cause it.

Put the meth down buddy. Not doing yourself any favors

But yes if your pituitary is fully functioning you can regain youthful GH levels through peptide use

 

[BBC3]

Thanks!!! Awesome reply.. I'm coming back in a few on this one for more got to check a thing or two.

Ghrp6 is a first gen ghrp. Ghrp2 is better for the gh production goal you are looking to produce (more specialized/refined) and hexarelin is super strong. Hexarelin, ghrp2 and 6 all boost cortisol and prolactin with hexarelin being the worst offender. As far as a ghrp with none of these sides imaporelin is the way to go.

Ghrp's are close to worthless if you do not also use a ghrh (cjc no dac as that produces a pulse while the dac produces a fruitless slow bleed). You need a producer (ghrp) and a release (ghrh).

In my opinion having used them for some time as well as using synthetic pharm and generic gh is that they are mostly hype. They are a fucking pain in the ass with carb timing, 4-6 pins a day is a pain in the ass, the fact that there is no qc is pathetic (very hit or miss with quality- and you can only go by "sides" as there are no tests for them).

Your body figures out that you are whoring the pituitary out for gh within 6-8 weeks and you have to hop off for a few weeks- whether this is the reason igf levels don't stay elevated or if it is because they are worthless overall is debatable. .. but at the end of the day the health benefits are to be had by taking pharm gh. Everything else is a hit or miss waste of time imo.

If you take them anyway expect hunger paons from ghrp 6 and 2, achy joints and pain/swelling/lumps at injection site. Marginal fat loss. Not much else.

 

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I was ASKING a QUESTION. A very preliminary review and knowledge hunt. Was that tone all that necc. Chillax.. I am the profit NOT YOU.. LOL

I REALLY dont understand a think you said in first paragraph could you please rephrase / thx I would appreciate. Perhaps BRUTUS could translate if he got it.? Not being negative - its just freggin greek to me is all fer some reason...?!?

NO - Meth is not on tap here..

Now did you not just disagree with my presented interpretation in the last sentence?? What am I missing...?

I appreciate the reply fer sure can ya try to see where I might not get and rework plz thx. I am trying is all.

I didn't read all that but I think your missing the part about bio identical rhgh. Synthetic GH is not gonna disrupt cell replication? That's a natural result of oxidation or age or watever . If that corruption is already present it can propagate that dysfunction but not cause it.

Put the meth down buddy. Not doing yourself any favors

But yes if your pituitary is fully functioning you can regain youthful GH levels through peptide use

 

[BBC3]

@ Brutus and Hotdog. Again Brutus thanks much for the great consideration. I am back today to attempt a re-uptake all off this good info and try to further myself. Again guys - KNOW that I am ALWAYS ASKING and never preaching. I know it gets blurred sometimez.. LOL Anywayz to focus precision points please...:

1. On the hunger with GHRP-6. I was recently out and about one fine day and had this crazy hunger come over me which I started getting kind of confused and really weird. I must have drove thru 10 drive thrus around town all confused. (not drug, hormone, or peptide related). In fact I was pretty sober. WHAT SCARED ME was the when I started eating, NOTHING WOULD QUASH that feeling for some time. I wrote it off to a pre-diabetic spook-out I guess. But I am worried about this potential feeling of "hunger". Is it manageable via normal caloric intake. Does food satiate it? OR is it worse than the worst stoner munchout?? Cause I have to say it was VERY UNCOMFORTABLE for about an hour all told...

2. On the (GHRP Stimulated) pituitary ENDOGENOUS GH production VS. Applying EXOGENOUS HGH... - Do you guys clearly see what I am saying/asking about "yours" vs. "NOT yours".? In that, when injecting synthetic HGH to body, THE BODY DON'T KNOW it has growth factors applied. The whole body that is(left hand not seeing the right)... WHEREAS, to ORDER The pituitary to make YOUR OWN GH, you could now potentially be REGROWING STEM CELLS. And Actually manufacturing NEW BASE CELLS vs maybe not with HGH application. So to hone it down once more /I would be forecasting that SINCE the pituitary has the ORDER, then the rest of the body might "Properly acknowledge" this order, and fall more correctly to SUIT...? (and y'all might have got that just being sure).. ***So the question is could it be possible that GHRP's might have to power to MAKE NEW STEM CELLS, vs HGH Application ONLY working off the one's already in place??

3. What exactly is the DAC.? I saw it and ordered it. but did not realize it was adjunct to these hormones in usage?? Could someone give a brief description of what DAC is and how it plays in please?

And ONE LAST At Both of ya fer now.. @ Brutus, I do gather you are somewhat unimpressed with GHRP's. Is there ANY possibility you got bunk product? Or even a DIFFERENT-but-similarly-active one?? / Or, have you used it enough, and from enough different sources that you can pretty much tell on a "blind taste test" even? And @ Hotdog, Again I DO gain much value from your different vector too..! But I am not sure how you inferred that I suggested that EITHER MODE to EFFECT GH Activity was going to CAUSE CELL PERVERSION. I Did not intend that. I was saying as above that ?perhaps? the GHRP path would more fundamentally change the game of GH Modulation (as I again described again above)??

Please and THANK YOU Both for your time as always..!

Ghrp6 is a first gen ghrp. Ghrp2 is better for the gh production goal you are looking to produce (more specialized/refined) and hexarelin is super strong. Hexarelin, ghrp2 and 6 all boost cortisol and prolactin with hexarelin being the worst offender. As far as a ghrp with none of these sides imaporelin is the way to go.

Ghrp's are close to worthless if you do not also use a ghrh (cjc no dac as that produces a pulse while the dac produces a fruitless slow bleed). You need a producer (ghrp) and a release (ghrh).

In my opinion having used them for some time as well as using synthetic pharm and generic gh is that they are mostly hype. They are a fucking pain in the ass with carb timing, 4-6 pins a day is a pain in the ass, the fact that there is no qc is pathetic (very hit or miss with quality- and you can only go by "sides" as there are no tests for them).

Your body figures out that you are whoring the pituitary out for gh within 6-8 weeks and you have to hop off for a few weeks- whether this is the reason igf levels don't stay elevated or if it is because they are worthless overall is debatable. .. but at the end of the day the health benefits are to be had by taking pharm gh. Everything else is a hit or miss waste of time imo.

If you take them anyway expect hunger paons from ghrp 6 and 2, achy joints and pain/swelling/lumps at injection site. Marginal fat loss. Not much else.

I didn't read all that but I think your missing the part about bio identical rhgh. Synthetic GH is not gonna disrupt cell replication? That's a natural result of oxidation or age or watever . If that corruption is already present it can propagate that dysfunction but not cause it.

Put the meth down buddy. Not doing yourself any favors

But yes if your pituitary is fully functioning you can regain youthful GH levels through peptide use

 

[brutus79]

@ Brutus and Hotdog. Again Brutus thanks much for the great consideration. I am back today to attempt a re-uptake all off this good info and try to further myself. Again guys - KNOW that I am ALWAYS ASKING and never preaching. I know it gets blurred sometimez.. LOL Anywayz to focus precision points please...:

1. On the hunger with GHRP-6. I was recently out and about one fine day and had this crazy hunger come over me which I started getting kind of confused and really weird. I must have drove thru 10 drive thrus around town all confused. (not drug, hormone, or peptide related). In fact I was pretty sober. WHAT SCARED ME was the when I started eating, NOTHING WOULD QUASH that feeling for some time. I wrote it off to a pre-diabetic spook-out I guess. But I am worried about this potential feeling of "hunger". Is it manageable via normal caloric intake. Does food satiate it? OR is it worse than the worst stoner munchout?? Cause I have to say it was VERY UNCOMFORTABLE for about an hour all told...

2. On the (GHRP Stimulated) pituitary ENDOGENOUS GH production VS. Applying EXOGENOUS HGH... - Do you guys clearly see what I am saying/asking about "yours" vs. "NOT yours".? In that, when injecting synthetic HGH to body, THE BODY DON'T KNOW it has growth factors applied. The whole body that is(left hand not seeing the right)... WHEREAS, to ORDER The pituitary to make YOUR OWN GH, you could now potentially be REGROWING STEM CELLS. And Actually manufacturing NEW BASE CELLS vs maybe not with HGH application. So to hone it down once more /I would be forecasting that SINCE the pituitary has the ORDER, then the rest of the body might "Properly acknowledge" this order, and fall more correctly to SUIT...? (and y'all might have got that just being sure).. ***So the question is could it be possible that GHRP's might have to power to MAKE NEW STEM CELLS, vs HGH Application ONLY working off the one's already in place??

3. What exactly is the DAC.? I saw it and ordered it. but did not realize it was adjunct to these hormones in usage?? Could someone give a brief description of what DAC is and how it plays in please?

And ONE LAST At Both of ya fer now.. @ Brutus, I do gather you are somewhat unimpressed with GHRP's. Is there ANY possibility you got bunk product? Or even a DIFFERENT-but-similarly-active one?? / Or, have you used it enough, and from enough different sources that you can pretty much tell on a "blind taste test" even? And @ Hotdog, Again I DO gain much value from your different vector too..! But I am not sure how you inferred that I suggested that EITHER MODE to EFFECT GH Activity was going to CAUSE CELL PERVERSION. I Did not intend that. I was saying as above that ?perhaps? the GHRP path would more fundamentally change the game of GH Modulation (as I again described again above)??

Please and THANK YOU Both for your time as always..!

Bbc- the hunger and ability to deal with it is subjective I would assume. I understand the differences in ramping up your own production vs supplementation and while I cannot expound upon the differences or benefits of either scientifically I can state my experience with pharm gh was far superior to peptides or generic gh. I sampled peps from half a dozen companies and experienced all expected sides as authentic product is expected to produce; I would guess they were real as counterfeit products would be costly to produce... peps are cheap. No reason to fake them. The presence of dac causes a slow gh bleed vs the absence of dac which causes the dump. The dump/spike effect is what you want... so no dac is the obvious choice.

Join datbtrue website... you answer some questions and he approves you quickly- he is the expert in this field... if I am not mistaken he invented the cjc no dac strand. I am not aware of any better source of peptide information.

 

[HuckingFuge]

Bump Brutus

 

[BBC3]

I did join over there. It is a lot. And those guys are Scary-As-Fuck (SAF) Smart are they not?? Kinda reminds me of that video about Reptilian social interaction "Speak only when spoken to" LOL. They intimidate the shit out of me.. I am noting more than a little old profit who is being spoon fed by higher power. They can actually cipher... ! LOL

Well I was really hoping for more of your personal feedback which you gave. So I a looking for EXPERIENCE really here is all. THANKS..

Bbc- the hunger and ability to deal with it is subjective I would assume. I understand the differences in ramping up your own production vs supplementation and while I cannot expound upon the differences or benefits of either scientifically I can state my experience with pharm gh was far superior to peptides or generic gh. I sampled peps from half a dozen companies and experienced all expected sides as authentic product is expected to produce; I would guess they were real as counterfeit products would be costly to produce... peps are cheap. No reason to fake them. The presence of dac causes a slow gh bleed vs the absence of dac which causes the dump. The dump/spike effect is what you want... so no dac is the obvious choice.

Join datbtrue website... you answer some questions and he approves you quickly- he is the expert in this field... if I am not mistaken he invented the cjc no dac strand. I am not aware of any better source of peptide information.