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Understand an Amino Acid Analysis (AAA) only provides a rough estimate of GH quality or if one prefers "purity".
This is done by;
- Quantifying ALL the Amino Acids present in a particular sample
- Comparing a samples Amino Acid ratio to that of a KNOWN standard, product or hormone.
For example let assume theres a PEP "with established GH like activity" and contains FIFTEEN Amino Acids which include the following;
- 3 Valine = V
- 2 Glycine = G
- 6 Histidine = H
- 1 Threonine = T
- 3 Alanine = A
Ok with this info a computer is used to determine their relative RATIOs such as a:
H to G ratio of 3:1
H to A ratio of 2:1
H to T ratio of 6:1
A to V ratio of 3:1
Use your imagination bc the number of "ratio combinations" are vast and have already been established by computers for endogenous HGH! And yep as the number of MATCHES increases so to does the PROBABILITY a particular product is "pure".
How can IGF be useful then? A rising IGF compliments our analytical data, especially when the samples being tested are equivocal, like AA ratios that are less than conclusive.
Why would anyone test gh and not igf if your doing blood work? That extra 80 bucks can't be that big of a deal
godt240
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pls provide me your order number first. coz i dont think u buy from me by meso, i have all records.
after i conform that u buy from me, then u make IGF1 test to show us its bunk. not only because u feel its bunk. thx
godt240
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gh serum varies too much by the timing, by hours, in 30 min, the value could change a lot, and everyone's body react differently,some fast,some slow. so gh serum is not so accurate.
igf1 level is much more accurate and stable by days. so why not run blood test on IGF1 level to get more accurate results?
Here's the "protocol"
FIRST - obtain a BASELINE IGF level!
SECOND - run GH at a FIXED dosage for THREE to FOUR weeks
THIRD - Obtain IGF level
The dosage required to significantly impact IGF values varies bt individuals but I'd suggest at least 2 IUs/day. A baseline IGF is mandatory at lower dosages AND remains
the current medical standard.
jim
Here's the evidence based research to support what I've suggested above. I cited this article on the "generic GH assay" thread but its become apparent, few bothered to read it.
And before some jump all over my ass about being rude, crude and tatooed Im NOT referring to anyone in particular for goodness sake!
And before some jump all over my ass about being rude, crude and tatooed Im NOT referring to anyone in particular for goodness sake!
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Molecular GH assays are essentially worthless as a means of quantifying or qualifying supplemental GH! They are NOT used in medicine for that purpose and like it or not are largely a product of bro-science and some GH resellers.
muscle96ss
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The problem with this statement is that Jim assumes that all "generic" GH is the same. He also implies that he has actually visited a pharm GH production plant and knows where the UG GH's are manufactured. The fact is that Jim has no idea where any of these are manufactured or he would not have written that statement. What might surprise many of you folks is that in both the past and present there have been some so called "generic" GH's that were/are produced in a real pharmaceutical facility and have the identical contents of that pharma companies product.
I am agreement that is good to be suspicious and cautious; especially if you do not have factual information to prove otherwise. But to use a blanket statement such as above is inaccurate.
legendary
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Very well said. Now let mr Jim try to cyber bully.....
godt240
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the fact is that in china, some good gh r produced in a real pharmaceutical facility and have the identical contents of pharma companies product. and r tested as european grade gh. those gh r called as generic , not because they r homemade, just because they dont have licence to produce and sell
The problem IS bc these facilities don't have a license to PRODUCE or SELL HGH, they can easily deviate from Pharma standards, and it's the absence of such check and balances that makes them ILLEGAL!
And to suggest any generic GH product is "identical" to Pharma is being disingeniuos at best UNLESS you can offer proof of such an assertion, NOT!
muscle96ss
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Actually some do and are inspected and audited by the government. Too many blanket statements without knowing the facts.
Go ahead and post YOUR GT results rather than rely on others to do it FOR YOU!
Know one thing the onus is on the UGL to prove their products are GTG and should NEVER be considered a Meso member responsibility!
Such thinking is ass back-wards IMO but remains the pervasive attitude among resellers and that's one reason GT have been slammed on Meso and elsewhere, all you have offered is TALK, and a cheerleading squad!
Know one thing the onus is on the UGL to prove their products are GTG and should NEVER be considered a Meso member responsibility!
Such thinking is ass back-wards IMO but remains the pervasive attitude among resellers and that's one reason GT have been slammed on Meso and elsewhere, all you have offered is TALK, and a cheerleading squad!
? Do you mean me with your last post?
Because nothing is true in the post.. I honestly, I can't understand why it will be not great to see more testing results!? I was everything talking about MY personal experience and feelings about some brands which I was using in the last time...
Because nothing is true in the post.. I honestly, I can't understand why it will be not great to see more testing results!? I was everything talking about MY personal experience and feelings about some brands which I was using in the last time...
Of course I was "meaning YOU"!
Lets some of those analytical reports GT sent to you. I mean the accolades you continue to anoint GT with are based more than on a feeling or your own "experience" ARENT THEY?
Here let's do this ONE MORE TIME, has GT conducted analytical testing on their GH or not?
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