Godtropin vs Meditrope

[Brolloks]

@Brolloks I remember a certain someone who use to call you shill boy. Must be getting catchy. Lol and you have been on this dudes dick for some time now. He's left and your still over here defending him. I thought by you taking a long time to get here that maybe you weren't payed to defend him...guess I was wrong. [emoji20]

Oh well. I'll meet all you hatters in the Blacktops thread. Lmao!

To the contrary - I thought the fact that he's left should make it clear that I'm most definitely not a shill. I know a few gear whores, and think it is a despicable practice.

I guess I'm either immune to red welts, or a sucker for the underdog. Like I said, I applaud your willingness to provide feedback, even if it was only based on sides (or their absence).

 

[Ryno1980]

I was going to post a new thread for my question, but seeing as so many of you guys are here, I'll just ask here.
Keep in mind this is my first gh run so take it easy.
I originally ordered some kits of God for some local buddies. Ended up with 2 kits for myself. Started back in Aug at 4 iu a day am... first several weeks 0 sides followed by 2 weeks of red welts . The last 3 weeks I've noticed a lot. Swollen fingers and hands with a bit of numbness in my fingertips. And pretty dramatic fat loss. No real water retention anywhere else on my body . I'm also running sust, eq, and deca... gains are coming along nicely without the fat face and water retention deca is notorious for. I've got nothing to compare this gh to, but did pick up a couple kits of the black tops to finish out my run. Is it possible I just happend to get some properly dosed gh from gt or what... I'm concered about the hand thing.. I hear it's normal but it's a problem in my eyes

 

[Ryno1980]

I should also mention I had bloods done a few weeks ago because I wasn't feeling well. Didn't have igf test just female panel. Liver enzymes were good, rbc was through the roof and e2 was 46. Total t was capped but greater than 1500 (wasn't concerned with total test) gave blood thursday .

 

[Jeffg353]

I was going to post a new thread for my question, but seeing as so many of you guys are here, I'll just ask here.
Keep in mind this is my first gh run so take it easy.
I originally ordered some kits of God for some local buddies. Ended up with 2 kits for myself. Started back in Aug at 4 iu a day am... first several weeks 0 sides followed by 2 weeks of red welts . The last 3 weeks I've noticed a lot. Swollen fingers and hands with a bit of numbness in my fingertips. And pretty dramatic fat loss. No real water retention anywhere else on my body . I'm also running sust, eq, and deca... gains are coming along nicely without the fat face and water retention deca is notorious for. I've got nothing to compare this gh to, but did pick up a couple kits of the black tops to finish out my run. Is it possible I just happend to get some properly dosed gh from gt or what... I'm concered about the hand thing.. I hear it's normal but it's a problem in my eyes

The hand numbness n swelling is from the water retention. It's normal but if it bothers u, u can try decreasing the dose or splitting the dose 2iu am n 2iu later in the day. Some people recommend using a diuretic to help get rid of the excess water. Mhp expel has been mentioned to work but no first hand experience using this product to treat the water retention. Once ur body adapts to the extra GH it should subside. Switching to the black tops will be much more potent n will prob see an increase in sides so just be prepared. Are they the meditrope black tops or some other labs blacks?

 

[Jeffg353]

I should also mention I had bloods done a few weeks ago because I wasn't feeling well. Didn't have igf test just female panel. Liver enzymes were good, rbc was through the roof and e2 was 46. Total t was capped but greater than 1500 (wasn't concerned with total test) gave blood thursday .

With the 3 other AAS ur running that is expected. If u donated blood that should help keep the RBC levels down to acceptable levels. With them being increased might be a good idea to keep an eye on blood pressure just to be safe. I think it's recommended to donate blood every 60 days or so to keep levels safe.

 

[Ryno1980]

The hand numbness n swelling is from the water retention. It's normal but if it bothers u, u can try decreasing the dose or splitting the dose 2iu am n 2iu later in the day. Some people recommend using a diuretic to help get rid of the excess water. Mhp expel has been mentioned to work but no first hand experience using this product to treat the water retention. Once ur body adapts to the extra GH it should subside. Switching to the black tops will be much more potent n will prob see an increase in sides so just be prepared. Are they the meditrope black tops or some other labs blacks?

They are meditrope. Thanks for the reply. It just seems odd that it's water retention when I feel like im retaining very little water anywhere else. Makes sense tho, I literally had to take my wedding ring off 2 weeks ago and can't even get it past the knuckle now.
What do u think about adding say 40 mcg of clen just to help kill some water retention?

 

[Ryno1980]

With the 3 other AAS ur running that is expected. If u donated blood that should help keep the RBC levels down to acceptable levels. With them being increased might be a good idea to keep an eye on blood pressure just to be safe. I think it's recommended to donate blood every 60 days or so to keep levels safe.

Yep every 8 weeks. Blood pressure has been really good and I do keep an eye on it.. but I also take cialis 10 mg eod and that seems to be helping with bp...
I guess the thing that really concerns me is I've been stiff as fuck lately.. all my joints seem dry which is opposite of what I should be feeling on what I'm running. But I've also got a really physical job (construction) and I'm having a hard time deciding if I've got something going on, or if I'm just getting fucking old

 

[Ryno1980]

Yep every 8 weeks. Blood pressure has been really good and I do keep an eye on it.. but I also take cialis 10 mg eod and that seems to be helping with bp...
I guess the thing that really concerns me is I've been stiff as fuck lately.. all my joints seem dry which is opposite of what I should be feeling on what I'm running. But I've also got a really physical job (construction) and I'm having a hard time deciding if I've got something going on, or if I'm just getting fucking old

Only notice the stiff joints in the morning when I get up

 

[Jeffg353]

Only notice the stiff joints in the morning when I get up

It seems at least for me most of the water retention was happening in my joints especially in my hands/wrists n feet/ankles. Was like that for almost the entire 1st month n would come back for a brief period of time when I would either increase dose or change brands. All my watches became tighter n my shoe laces needed to be loosened up

 

[Ryno1980]

It seems at least for me most of the water retention was happening in my joints especially in my hands/wrists n feet/ankles. Was like that for almost the entire 1st month n would come back for a brief period of time when I would either increase dose or change brands. All my watches became tighter n my shoe laces needed to be loosened up

Interesting... thanks man... I was freaking out a bit... almost feels like arthritis.... lol...

 

[Jeffg353]

Yeah that's exactly what it feels like. It eventually passes

 

[Ryno1980]

Yeah that's exactly what it feels like. It eventually passes

Awesome man... thanks for the info

 

[Brolloks]

The water retention is normal. And tingling fingers/toes as a result. It sounds like one of your kits were bunk though - I got numb fingers on the GT trial kit which was supposed to be underdosed.

 

[Ryno1980]

The water retention is normal. And tingling fingers/toes as a result. It sounds like one of your kits were bunk though - I got numb fingers on the GT trial kit which was supposed to be underdosed.

So what your saying is tingly fingers and toes is a good indication that the hgh isn't bunk, vs the first kit I ran that didn't cause any of this? Just making sure I'm following

 

[miketee]

It’s not really a good indicator, but most people feel sides if they jump to quickly to a higher dose. That is why it is recommended to start at 2IU a month and increase by 2IU/month until you reach your desired level.

 

[Jeffg353]

So what your saying is tingly fingers and toes is a good indication that the hgh isn't bunk, vs the first kit I ran that didn't cause any of this? Just making sure I'm following

Sides are not a good indicator of quality. Only way to tell for certain is bloodwork

 

[Ryno1980]

Sides are not a good indicator of quality. Only way to tell for certain is bloodwork

No I realize that it's not a good indicator, not really how I meant that...I was replying to the fact that he saI'd it sounded like 1 kit was bunk..
I am planning on having bloods done, I need to do some research as to the type of test needed..

 

[miketee]

Privatelabsmd get the bodybuilder for like $120 and find a 10% off coupon. This will have tests for AAS too. If you don’t need the AAS get the igf-1 test for like $60

 

[Ryno1980]

Privatelabsmd get the bodybuilder for like $120 and find a 10% off coupon. This will have tests for AAS too. If you don’t need the AAS get the igf-1 test for like $60

Thanks brother... appreciate the onfo.. I can't remember the one I have to use.. whichever one works with quest diagnostics.. I usually just get blood work done at the va unless its during a bulk.. lol

 

[Ryno1980]

Yeah that's exactly what it feels like. It eventually passes

Ironically I did take 40 mcg of clen the last 2 days to see if it would help with the swelling, fingers are still tingly but it seems the swelling went away a bit..could be coincidence