goodlyfe test e bloods + qsc hcg(possibly bunk hcg)

[easyroller91]

bloods were taken ~60hours after last pin.
currently running ~240mg goodlyfe test e gso e3.5d as well as 500mcg QSC hcg same day.
side note i just started taking 2.5iu gh before bed about 6 days before these tests not sure if that would mess up any of these numbers.
was not running AI at time of bloods after getting the results im adding 12.5 aromasin e3.5 on pin days
also taking 30mg raloxifene ED

side note the pip from the test e is a mfer. is anyone else having this issue with the test e thats going around?

 

[Ooohlala]

Shouldn't your test (both free and total) be a little higher, having in account the high dose? 60h after last injection, your testosterona levels should be peaking (contrary to a lot of misinformation on the internet, test enh hits its peak during this period, not later).

 

[IronMetal_2]

Shouldn't your test (both free and total) be a little higher, having in account the high dose? 60h after last injection, your testosterona levels should be peaking (contrary to a lot of misinformation on the internet, test enh hits its peak during this period, not later).

Test E should be peaking around 24h after injection but I agree total test should be higher.

 

[HB_22]

500mcg QSC hcg

500IU? 500mcg is a pretty hefty dose, so i guess you are talking about 500IU.
What makes you think it's bunk?

60h after last injection, your testosterona levels should be peaking (contrary to a lot of misinformation on the internet, test enh hits its peak during this period, not later).

Test-E peaks after 24-48h, depending on the viscosity of the oil.


The testosterone panel should be pulled within that time frame for a better reading. After 3 days it already started to fall off.

 

[Ooohlala]

Test E should be peaking around 24h after injection but I agree total test should be higher.

Absolutely. It peaks 24h after injection and stays that way for three days.

 

[Ooohlala]

Test-E peaks after 24-48h, depending on the viscosity of the oil.


The testosterone panel should be pulled within that time frame for a better reading. After 3 days it already started to fall off.

Guy has taken his bloods 60h after pin. That's two and half days. Test enh should be peaking during this period (regardless of when testosterone has hit the peak, 60h after injection is within the peaking time frame). He has done his bloods right.

 

[easyroller91]

in reality im not too worried about the total test coming in at 5x my dose 60 hours later is pretty good? in the past even on higher doses im usually around 5x what im taking
im more concerned about my free test? why is it so low? should i pull shbg and see if thats sky high?
also yeah 500iu on the hcg my bad. and even when taking hcg would your lh/fsh come back crashed? thats why im thinking its bunk?

 

[Jin23]

Can you guys show me some references for the 1 - 3 days peak for test e?

App 12h should be Tmax ... This Tmax discussions are always interesting. I'm genuinely interested if my sources or my interpretation are wrong.

 

[Ooohlala]

Sure, buddy.

Test enanthate:
1) https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...0QFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0p8iNd22_uXmkGrzyWFPdr
2)https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/andro.2020.0002

Test cypionate:
1)https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/andro.2020.0002

 

[Ooohlala]

I had a few good ones that compared different dosages for both compounds, but I'm struggling to find them right now. Still, you can see by those studies that testosterone enanthate hits peak at ≈24h after injection and stays that way for 3 days more (up to day 4). @HB_22 is just not that good of a reader, so he's slightly off in the things he writes as well.

 

[HB_22]

Can you guys show me some references for the 1 - 3 days peak for test e?

App 12h should be Tmax ... This Tmax discussions are always interesting. I'm genuinely interested if my sources or my interpretation are wrong.

That is correct. Between 8-36h according to different studies with a few individuals peaking at 48h, but the general consens is as you said that it peaks within 24hrs after administration.

Comparative pharmacokinetics of testosterone enanthate and testosterone cyclohexanecarboxylate as assessed by serum and salivary testosterone levels in normal men - PubMed

The pharmacokinetics of 2 testosterone esters, testosterone enanthate and testosterone cyclohexanecarboxylate, were compared in a single blind crossover study in healthy young men. Their effects on serum and salivary levels of testosterone, as well as on the serum levels of LH, FSH and prolactin...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/andro.2020.0002

 

[HB_22]

I had a few good ones that compared different dosages for both compounds, but I'm struggling to find them right now. Still, you can see by those studies that testosterone enanthate hits peak at ≈24h after injection and stays that way for 3 days more (up to day 4). @HB_22 is just not that good of a reader, so he's slightly off in the things he writes as well.

Are you even reading the studies that you linked?

I will show you the important part from what you have linked:

Mean time to reach its maximum level was 1.7 days

Just because a couple outliners take up to 3 days the majority still has it's peak within 24-36 hrs.

 

[Detroitmonster]

As for the hcg . Shoot some on a pregnancy stick . If it shows up pregnant it’s real hcg . You want real hcg , order it from purple panda . That where I got mine and tested good . Started using it 3 years ago and did a sperm test before it , and 8 weeks on it . Went from infertile to over fertile and have a 3 year old . Did the same thing recently with seaman test both times and now I also got a 6 month old . All from purple panda hcg and it’s cheap she real. I have the adman test to prove it . And look at your LH on your blood work . If it’s low . They hcg is shit . It boost your lh in your pituitary gland

 

[Ooohlala]

Are you even reading the studies that you linked?

I will show you the important part from what you have linked:


Just because a couple outliners take up to 3 days the majority still has it's peak within 24-36 hrs.

My man, OP is talking about free testosterone (FT), as he mentioned just above. The study you're referring to clearly says in the "Primary Outcome" (results) section: "The mean Tmax of FT was 3.4 days, and three cases reached Cmax at day 7."

I just copied and pasted it.

 

[Deadp007]

...when taking hcg would your lh/fsh come back crashed? thats why im thinking its bunk?

No, it won't, but it will increase your estradiol.

 

[Ooohlala]

Just because a couple outliners take up to 3 days the majority still has it's peak within 24-36 hrs.

And it is not "outliners"; it is "outliers". Your slight dyslexia is kind of funny.

And if there are 3 out of 10 participants getting these results, they're not outliers at all; they're just variants. An outlier is a result far, far below 30% (outliers are in the low single digit percentages).

If I gave you a book, you would probably use it to squat... You're funny, man. Seriously.


Just put a dislike on this comment too. Post your estrogen panel here. It's probably pretty high at the moment.

 

[Ooohlala]

My man, OP is talking about free testosterone (FT), as he mentioned just above. The study you're referring to clearly says in the "Primary Outcome" (results) section: "The mean Tmax of FT was 3.4 days, and three cases reached Cmax at day 7."

I just copied and pasted it.

I just noticed that it says the same thing in the abstract section: "Mean time to maximum level of FT was 3.4 days, but in three cases it was at day 7"

 

[HB_22]

And it is not "outliners"; it is "outliers". Your slight dyslexia is kind of funny.

It's not my mother tongue, so autocorrection is sometimes screwing things up. Anyways, stop spreading misinformation.

 

[Ooohlala]

Also, in the "introduction" section of the study : 'Monitoring testosterone levels in testosterone-treated men' they provide an overview of the traditionally used IM methods. That's what they have to say about our old friends: "the commonly used T-enanthate and T-cypionate preparations produce peak levels at 1–3 days which gradually decline to trough levels at 2–3 weeks that may be as low as 25% of the peak value".

The study is about transdermal testosterone but in the introduction of the study they provide a theoretical frame (read: 'generalization') based on existing literature. It gives you an idea about the these compounds pharmacokinetics.

 

[Ooohlala]

It's not my mother tongue, so autocorrection is sometimes screwing things up. Anyways, stop spreading misinformation.

Sure, buddy, go back to your Facebook readings. Your news feed is overflowing with interesting titles about flat earth and autism inducing vaccination.