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Methyltrienolone

Methyltrienolone (MT) is a very potent, reasonably toxic, non-aromatizing steroid. Ok. Lets go over those three points again. First of all, MT is potent. It binds so strongly to the AR (androgen receptor) that it is often used in studies on other androgens to measure how strongly they bind. In other words, this stuff binds onto the AR receptor so strongly that it is pretty much the benchmark for that quality. If youve read my profile on Trenbolone Acetate (TA), youll note that I said TA is the most potent injectable weapon in our arsenal with regards to ability to bind to the Androgen receptor. Thats still true, because this particular compound is not in our arsenal, and its not injectable... its simply the oral version of TA (i.e. it is Trenbolone which has undergone modification to become orally active, via the addition of a 17-alph-methyl group). So why is it important that this stuff binds so tightly to the AR? Well, Androgen Receptors are found in both fat cells as well as muscle cells(8); they act on the AR in muscle cells to promote growth, and in the fat cells to affect fat burning.(9)(6) The stronger the androgen binds to the A.R, the higher the lipolytic (fat burning) effect on adipose (fat)tissue(9)(5). Unfortunately, that strong binding doesnt also automatically mean that it will elicit the strongest possible anabolic response, nor that the weakest bind will elicit a weak anabolic response. Anadrol (oxymetholone) has the weakest bind to the AR possible (too low to be measured), and it produces a profound anabolic response, for example. Dianabol is simarly low, and produces a very good anabolic response. ARs are found in both muscle tissue as well as adipose tissue. When a muscles AR is stimulated, it can induce hypertrophy. When an adipose tissues AR is stimulated, through various related mechanisms, fat is lost. This is a gross oversimplification. Whatever. All we need to know is that when you have a steroid that binds to the AR, it builds muscle and burns fat. And a steroid that binds very tightly to the AR will stimulate a lot of muscle synthesis and burn a lot of fat. A good example of this is Trenbolone. And since I mentioned Trenbolone, its worth further mentioning that MT is basically a 17aa (oral) version of (injectable) Trenbolone. AR binding and AR stimulation is not the only mechanism which stimulates anabolism, however. It is important to note that dbol has a very low AR binding ability and A50 has an AR binding ability which is too low to even measure! Both are very potent oral steroids, though. So while its important, AR binding/stimulation is not the end all & be all of anabolism, although it is an important part. Dont be fooled by the anabolic/androgenic ratio of this (or any steroid), either. The anabolic/androgenic ratio of MT would suggest that it produces 120(+)x the anabolic and 60(+)x androgenic effect of Testosterone (which has a score of 100 and 100 respectively). If one were able to get a bottle of this stuff, I believe it would be best used as part of a cutting cycle, stacked with some injectables (testosterone, etc... ), but certainly no other orals. Its just too toxic. Negma (the French company who brought Parabolan to the market, and then discontinued it) never pushed MT to gain approval as a commercially released item, since their original studies showed it to be highly toxic. Methyltrienolone is, of course, a 19Nor compound (as is Trenbolone)...Thus, it will effect your sexual drive and performance in a similar way to both Tren and Nandrolone, meaning that Temporary Impotence and/or a lack of libido is highly possible (aka Tren-Dick or Deca Dick)(10). Another problem with MT is that it is a progestin, and binds shockingly well to the progesterone receptor also (PgR) (3). As we know, progestins amplify estrogenic effects of Aromatizing drugs. Although MT doesnt aromatize, you will still need to worry about its ability to cause side-effects by amplifying the estrogenic issues caused by the other compounds you may be taking. How toxic is this stuff? Well, it was never commercially marketed for use in humans, and has been relegated to Steroid-Purgatory, to be used only in studies. Id probably rate it on around the same level as taking very high doses of halotestin or methyltestosterone. And Id probably recommend that people keep doses of this product very low, much lower than recommended doses typical of the other 2 compounds I just mentioned (i.e. 500-750mcgs/day, for not much longer than 3-4 weeks). I have had the good fortune to discuss this product with the owner of an Underground Lab, and he had given out several samples of this stuff to athletes he knew, and they all kept records and got regular bloodwork done. People who were in the 2mg/day range developed highly elevated liver enzymes and Jaundice (yellowing of the eyes and skin). They all recovered, and through trial and error, a 500-750mcg dose was found to be (*relatively) safe, and (*roughly) as effective as 150-225mgs of Trenbolone Acetate. For women, a possible side effect of MT is Virilization (development of male sexual characteristics), which is profound with this stuff (11), so it is entirely off limits for women to use. You may want to take milk thistle with this compound, should you decide to try it, as well as (320mgs/day), ALA (500mgs per meal) and try some Pygeum Africanum (Permixon, the liposterolic extract of Serenoa)... stuff will all protect either your prostate or liver... in one study, it inhibited competitively the binding of Methyltrienolone to the cytosolic receptor of the rat prostate. Youll still need to get blood work done, avoid other orals (this includes drinking, or anything else which could tax your liver), and monitor your health closely. This isnt a drug for novices, clearly, and is probably only useful for pre-contest bodybuilders. Ive only seen MT available from one Underground Lab, and it came in a 50ml bottle, which was 1mg/ml, and was priced at $100. This translates to roughly 100 doses, at a reasonable cost of fifty-cents per dose. And since you would never want to run this particular drug for longer than 3-4 weeks at a time (maybe it would have use in the last few weeks before a bodybuilding competition, but not much else), youll get to use one bottle in 4 different cycles. That makes it no less dangerous, just reasonably cheap.

Thanks a great post bro, thanks
 
Custom,
Have you cleared the coc? If not meso members are not supposed to use you yet. Like I told you previously I like the way you handle yourself and hope you are cleared. And love your baseball pool. We have 3 sources here and they cant keep up, every one of them is having processing and supply issues.
But the point of the coc is we stand together to make sources follow our rules to do business here. So people slow down and wait out the process.

If you have been cleared ignore me and let me know so I can place an order.
 
Custom,
Have you cleared the coc? If not meso members are not supposed to use you yet. Like I told you previously I like the way you handle yourself and hope you are cleared. And love your baseball pool. We have 3 sources here and they cant keep up, every one of them is having processing and supply issues.
But the point of the coc is we stand together to make sources follow our rules to do business here. So people slow down and wait out the process.

If you have been cleared ignore me and let me know so I can place an order.

Not cleared. Buy at your own risk if at all.
 
Custom,
Have you cleared the coc? If not meso members are not supposed to use you yet. Like I told you previously I like the way you handle yourself and hope you are cleared. And love your baseball pool. We have 3 sources here and they cant keep up, every one of them is having processing and supply issues.
But the point of the coc is we stand together to make sources follow our rules to do business here. So people slow down and wait out the process.

If you have been cleared ignore me and let me know so I can place an order.

Jayb how do I know if I cleared it? Who makes that call? There will always be members that say no and others that say yes. I have done everything that was asked of me except getting a pic of brewing. This is out of our hands and we have made several requests for that info from the supplier. Anonomyous testing has been brought up so I leave that up to the members to do that. Going over alot of threads here I have yet to see anyone accually "cleared" to do sales. We have had alot of sales so far from here, I think those members have done their own research as I would think that would be their right to do so. I just looked at the coc and no where does it say anyone has to wait for the source to be cleared (unless I missed something) and I think I have gone really out of my way to comply with the coc starting from my opening post.
Respectfully submitted by Custom
 
Jayb how do I know if I cleared it? Who makes that call? There will always be members that say no and others that say yes. I have done everything that was asked of me except getting a pic of brewing. This is out of our hands and we have made several requests for that info from the supplier. Anonomyous testing has been brought up so I leave that up to the members to do that. Going over alot of threads here I have yet to see anyone accually "cleared" to do sales. We have had alot of sales so far from here, I think those members have done their own research as I would think that would be their right to do so. I just looked at the coc and no where does it say anyone has to wait for the source to be cleared (unlees I missed something) and I think I have gone really out of my way to comply with the coc starting from my opening post.

Respectfully submitted by Custom


I make the motherfucking call !!

Hahaha, kidding.. :)

Brutus is right though, yo ass hasn't cleared... Where's the rest of these pics you've been working on???
 
The scoc is only a standard- you can do whatever you want here. This forum does not endorse or promote the sale of steroids and neither does the members. If you choose to do so a group of people created a list of things they felt was important in a source and the way they conduct themselves. If there are things not possible thats fine... I hear questions about authenticity of product on your site, and you have no proof of sterile procedure. It is what it is...
 
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Got me a package today!!! 100 tabs of proviron.

I know you guys don't want anyone ordering from GR yet, but I have been ordering from these guys since before they were on this board. They are my go to for pharm stuff like proviron, hcg and etc...
 
I make the motherfucking call !!

Hahaha, kidding.. :)

Brutus is right though, yo ass hasn't cleared... Where's the rest of these pics you've been working on???

I have posted them in this thread. It was request to post pics of our Norma test-e. I posted the amps and the box they were delivered in.
Johnnyballz this is not directed at you at all but why cant the board get together and vote on a getting 3 or 4 guys in charge here to really come together to make the coc work. It seems to me to be a great idea but needs some fine tuning. Sponsors don't know who's who here but you guys do. It seems confusing that members that have been here for only a few months come in and seem to want to make the call to out a sponsor and there are some guys here, senior and vets that are willing to work with a new sponsor to kinda get to the bottom of everything as quick as possible. Or to speed things up have these guys make a thread stays or goes and whoever votes in the thread has to give good reason for their vote i.e. good or bad reviews or bad experience they have had. I understand all about the test and guys getting beat with bunk gear but I see some sponsor here that have horrible reviews on the same "protected" boards we are on. What if you guys are accually pushing a great sponsor out the door before he can prove himself, is that fair to the community?
 
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There are far, far more shit sponsors than great ones. They are so few and far between that members have come together to reduce the likelihood of being scammed. So when you take a look at the odds, it's an acceptable loss to lose a great one here and there.
 
I have posted them in this thread. It was request to post pics of our Norma test-e. I posted the amps and the box they were delivered in.

Johnnyballz this is not directed at you at all but why cant the board get together and vote on a getting 3 or 4 guys in charge here to really come together to make the coc work. It seems to me to be a great idea but needs some fine tuning. Sponsors don't know who's who here but you guys do. It seems confusing that members that have been here for only a few months come in and seem to want to make the call to out a sponsor and there are some guys here, senior and vets that are willing to work with a new sponsor to kinda get to the bottom of everything as quick as possible. Or to speed things up have these guys make a thread stays or goes and whoever votes in the thread has to give good reason for their vote i.e. good or bad reviews or bad experience they have had. I understand all about the test and guys getting beat with bunk gear but I see some sponsor here that have horrible reviews on the same "protected" boards we are on. What if you guys are accually pushing a great sponsor out the door before he can prove himself, is that fair to the community?


I thought it was also requested that you should show pics of the lab's equipment you're reselling for.. Don't make me go look back now but I know you said you were working on it..

I'll give you this, that was an epic response.. But no.. You're a pretty good rep though, whatever that's worth..
 
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What happened to the days where a source would just brew quality gear and sell it a reasonable price, not have to offer deals and promos, and put what's on the label inside the vial? I love AAS but the game has blown up way too much and is out of control. Id go back to the days where no one knew your source in a heart beat. Prescription looks better and better every day I see garbage labs lying to make a buck off someone else with no regard to health
 
What happened to the days where a source would just brew quality gear and sell it a reasonable price, not have to offer deals and promos, and put what's on the label inside the vial? I love AAS but the game has blown up way too much and is out of control. Id go back to the days where no one knew your source in a heart beat. Prescription looks better and better every day I see garbage labs lying to make a buck off someone else with no regard to health


They're still around, you just need to get back into the scene my brother.. You are correct, established private labs put the right shit in the vial and never really do promos.. They just don't have to, that's not what we typically deal with here on the open board though.
 
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I thought it was also requested that you should show pics of the lab's equipment you're reselling for.. Don't make me go look back now but I know you said you were working on it..

I'll give you this, that was an epic response.. But no.. You're a pretty good rep though, whatever that's worth..
Thanks JB I try my best to help out. In an earlier post I wrote we have requested several times to the supplier and havent gotten a response. My last email before I hit the sheets will be for GR to ask the supplier to join the board to see how many requests we have about this brewing equipment and how important it is for the mebers to see he is brewing clean gear
 
I have posted them in this thread. It was request to post pics of our Norma test-e. I posted the amps and the box they were delivered in.
Johnnyballz this is not directed at you at all but why cant the board get together and vote on a getting 3 or 4 guys in charge here to really come together to make the coc work. It seems to me to be a great idea but needs some fine tuning. Sponsors don't know who's who here but you guys do. It seems confusing that members that have been here for only a few months come in and seem to want to make the call to out a sponsor and there are some guys here, senior and vets that are willing to work with a new sponsor to kinda get to the bottom of everything as quick as possible. Or to speed things up have these guys make a thread stays or goes and whoever votes in the thread has to give good reason for their vote i.e. good or bad reviews or bad experience they have had. I understand all about the test and guys getting beat with bunk gear but I see some sponsor here that have horrible reviews on the same "protected" boards we are on. What if you guys are accually pushing a great sponsor out the door before he can prove himself, is that fair to the community?

This is an unmoderated forum- that means nobody is in charge. Everyone has a voice. I apologize if it is a bit chaotic, but considering you sell drugs sitting behind a computer I really don't fucking care. Ever sat in the rain selling bags of weed for 20 hours straight so you don't get shot by the guy who fronted the bag? And get jumped for all your money- get your head and neck stomped on so many fucking times you couldn't see straight for days? And in the interest of self preservation bag up grams of bisquick and try to off them before someone came back and did something worse than the original front to you?

Custom- you are a nice guy- but you aren't even the guy on the corner... you just know where the corner is and take people there. If someone on the corner decides to pull out amd rob the whole fucking car you can't do shit about it. If they start shipping bunk amps what the fuck are you gonna do? Apologize to everyone? See my problem?

Give me a mom and pop brewer- even a bathtub brewer if the bathtub is clean over some guys guys guys guys who has no control over distribution, manufacture, packaging, etc. Tou don't feel comfortable because we don't want you too. This is not your home- it is ours. Ill shoot at your feet all week if want to, ya dig? Stop complaining and telling us how to run a board by appointing people to give free gear to and tell everyone everyrhing is all right. Not now, not ever.
 
This is an unmoderated forum- that means nobody is in charge. Everyone has a voice. I apologize if it is a bit chaotic, but considering you sell drugs sitting behind a computer I really don't fucking care. Ever sat in the rain selling bags of weed for 20 hours straight so you don't get shot by the guy who fronted the bag? And get jumped for all your money- get your head and neck stomped on so many fucking times you couldn't see straight for days? And in the interest of self preservation bag up grams of bisquick and try to off them before someone came back and did something worse than the original front to you?

Custom- you are a nice guy- but you aren't even the guy on the corner... you just know where the corner is and take people there. If someone on the corner decides to pull out amd rob the whole fucking car you can't do shit about it. If they start shipping bunk amps what the fuck are you gonna do? Apologize to everyone? See my problem?

Give me a mom and pop brewer- even a bathtub brewer if the bathtub is clean over some guys guys guys guys who has no control over distribution, manufacture, packaging, etc. Tou don't feel comfortable because we don't want you too. This is not your home- it is ours. Ill shoot at your feet all week if want to, ya dig? Stop complaining and telling us how to run a board by appointing people to give free gear to and tell everyone everyrhing is all right. Not now, not ever.

The reason I posted my opinion is because Im getting confused here. In an earlier post you said the board doesn't condone or promote the selling of steroids. But yet sponsors need to be cleared. I don't understand this
 
It would be great for his business here....
It would be great for his business. The sources that have done so have thrived here. And colt is right if we have to lose one good source to protect ourselves and the community then so be it. Call it piece of mind if you will. The main thing that will help you the most custom is not to be combative on these issues and make suggestions on how we handle this board because as a community we won't stop until we as a community are satisfied. It is not personal in anyway. You are a source not a sponsor. Sources come and go every week here. It cost you nothing to be here and you stand to gain quite a bit. You have to go along to get along.
 
This is an unmoderated forum- that means nobody is in charge. Everyone has a voice. I apologize if it is a bit chaotic, but considering you sell drugs sitting behind a computer I really don't fucking care. Ever sat in the rain selling bags of weed for 20 hours straight so you don't get shot by the guy who fronted the bag? And get jumped for all your money- get your head and neck stomped on so many fucking times you couldn't see straight for days? And in the interest of self preservation bag up grams of bisquick and try to off them before someone came back and did something worse than the original front to you?

Custom- you are a nice guy- but you aren't even the guy on the corner... you just know where the corner is and take people there. If someone on the corner decides to pull out amd rob the whole fucking car you can't do shit about it. If they start shipping bunk amps what the fuck are you gonna do? Apologize to everyone? See my problem?

Give me a mom and pop brewer- even a bathtub brewer if the bathtub is clean over some guys guys guys guys who has no control over distribution, manufacture, packaging, etc. Tou don't feel comfortable because we don't want you too. This is not your home- it is ours. Ill shoot at your feet all week if want to, ya dig? Stop complaining and telling us how to run a board by appointing people to give free gear to and tell everyone everyrhing is all right. Not now, not ever.

You said it better brutus[}:)]
 
I have posted them in this thread. It was request to post pics of our Norma test-e. I posted the amps and the box they were delivered in.
Johnnyballz this is not directed at you at all but why cant the board get together and vote on a getting 3 or 4 guys in charge here to really come together to make the coc work. It seems to me to be a great idea but needs some fine tuning. Sponsors don't know who's who here but you guys do. It seems confusing that members that have been here for only a few months come in and seem to want to make the call to out a sponsor and there are some guys here, senior and vets that are willing to work with a new sponsor to kinda get to the bottom of everything as quick as possible. Or to speed things up have these guys make a thread stays or goes and whoever votes in the thread has to give good reason for their vote i.e. good or bad reviews or bad experience they have had. I understand all about the test and guys getting beat with bunk gear but I see some sponsor here that have horrible reviews on the same "protected" boards we are on. What if you guys are accually pushing a great sponsor out the door before he can prove himself, is that fair to the community?

At the end of the day it doesn't matter what you think about how the coc can work best. This isn't a hierarchical corporation. Unlike other boards there is no one entity alone deciding what is what. The community will ultimately determine what is ok and you will certainly know when there is an issue
 
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