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"Heartbreaking" Scene Unfolds At Greek Banks As Pensioners Clamor For Cash

1,000 Greek bank branches chanced a stampede in order to open their doors to the country's retirees on Wednesday.

The scene was somewhat chaotic as pensioners formed long lines and the country’s elderly attempted to squeeze through the doors in order to access pension payments.

As Bloomberg reports, payouts were rationed and disbursals were limited according to last name. Here’s more:

It’s a day of fresh indignities for the people of Greece.

About a third of the nation’s depleted banks cracked open their doors after being closed for three days. But all they did was ration pension payments, hours after the country became the first advanced economy to miss a payment to the International Monetary Fund and its bailout program expired.

On the third day of capital controls, a few dozen pensioners lined up by 7 a.m. at a central Athens branch of the National Bank of Greece, an hour before opening time. They were to receive a maximum of 120 euros ($133), compared with the average monthly payment of about 600 euros. Many left with nothing after the manager said only those with last names starting with the letters A through K would get paid.

“Not only will I have to queue for hours at the bank in the hope of getting 120 euros, but I’ll have a two-hour round trip,” said Dimitris Danaos, 77, a retired local government worker who was making the bus journey from his home outside the Greek capital to the suburb of Glyfada
AFP has more color:

In chaotic scenes, thousands of angry elderly Greeks on Wednesday besieged the nation’s crisis-hit banks, which have reopened to allow them to withdraw vital cash from their state pensions.

“Let them go to hell!” said one pensioner waiting to get his money, after failed talks between Athens and international creditors sparked a week-long banking shutdown.

The Greek government, which closed the banks and imposed strict capital controls after cash machines ran dry, has temporarily reopened almost 1,000 branches to allow pensioners without cards to withdraw 120 euros ($133) to last the rest of the week.

The move has again sparked lengthy queues at banks across Greece — and outrage from many retirees who are regarded as among the most vulnerable in society, exposed to a vicious and lengthy economic downturn.

Under banking restrictions imposed all week, ordinary Greeks can withdraw up to 60 euros a day for each credit or debit card — but many of the elderly population do not have cards.

Another customer, a retired mariner who asked not to be named, told AFP he had no cash to buy crucial medicine for his sick wife.

“I worked for 50 years on the sea and now I am the beggar for 120 euros,” he said.

“I took out 120 euros — but I have no money for medication for my wife, who had an operation and is ill,” he added.

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Here’s a look at the scene at National Bank in Athens courtesy of http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/greece/11709844/Greek-banks-reopen-chaotic-scenes-as-people-rush-to-withdraw-pensions.html:
(couldn't embed the video)

As we outlined in detail earlier this morning, the latest polls show a slim majority of Greeks plan to vote "no" in the upcoming referendum (which, as far as we know, will still go on). Many analysts and commentators say a "oxi" vote would likely lead to a euro exit and with it, far more pain for the country's retirees.

Indeed, as we noted on Tuesday in "For Greeks, The Nightmare Is Just Beginning: Here Come The Depositor Haircuts," Goldman has suggested that only once Syriza's "core constituency of pensioners and public sector employees" sees the cash reserves (to which they have heretofore enjoyed first claim on) run dry, will they "face the direct implications of the liquidity squeeze the political impasse between Greece and its creditors has created. And only then will the alignment of domestic political interests within Greece change to allow a way forward."

And so, as sad as it is, the scene that unfolded today in front of the roughly one-third of Greek bank branches which opened their doors to pensioners, may have been preordained by the powers that be in Burssels because as we said yesterday evening, breaking Syriza's voter base may have been necessary in order for the Troika to finally force Tsipras to relent or else risk being driven from office, after capital controls and depositor haircuts force public sector employees to collectively cry "Uncle", beg Europe to take it back, and present Merkel with Tsipras and Varoufakis' heads on a proverbial (and metaphorical, we hope) silver platter.




 
Big Fat Greeks, and Weddings
by Mark Steyn • Jun 30, 2015 at 9:45 am


~Likewise, the looming rendezvous with destiny in the Hellenes. Greek banks remain closed today and all this week. Steven Hayward spots this revealing comment from one Athenian:

"How can something like this happen without prior warning?" asked Angeliki Psarianou, a 67-year-old retired public servant, who stood in the drizzle after arriving too late at one empty ATM in the Greek capital.

Don't you just hate it when the Germans refuse to re-fill your ATM?

Given that "retired public servants" have been at the center of Greece's crisis for years, Ms [apologies for earlier mistering] Psarianou's bewilderment is rather touching. It certainly wasn't bewildering to me because I've been writing about Ms Psarianou and her ilk for years. See After America (personally autographed copies of which are exclusively available, etc, etc, and, while royalties are not as reliable as a Greek civil-service pension, the author is most grateful):

From The Times of London, May 6th 2010:

'The President of Greece warned last night that his country stood on the brink of the abyss after three people were killed when an anti-government mob set fire to the Athens bank where they worked.'

Almost right. They were not an "anti-government" mob, but a government mob, a mob comprised largely of civil servants. That they are highly uncivil and disinclined to serve should come as no surprise: they're paid more and they retire earlier, and that's how they want to keep it. So they're objecting to austerity measures that would end, for example, the tradition of 14 monthly paychecks per annum. You read that right: the Greek public sector cannot be bound by anything so humdrum as temporal reality. So, when it was mooted that the "workers" might henceforth receive a mere 12 monthly paychecks per annum, they rioted. Their hapless victims - a man and two women - were a trio of clerks trapped in a bank when the mob set it alight and then obstructed emergency crews attempting to rescue them.

Unlovely as they are, the Greek rioters are the logical end point of the advanced social democratic state: not an oppressed underclass, but a spoiled overclass, rioting in defense of its privileges and insisting on more subsidy, more benefits, more featherbedding, more government.

Who will pay for it? Not my problem, say the rioters. Maybe those dead bank clerks' clients will - assuming we didn't burn them to death, too.

This is the world Ms Psarianou willed into being. How can she be surprised now that it's shown up?

To prop up unsustainable welfare states, most of the western world isn't "printing money" but instead printing credit cards and pre-approving our unborn grandchildren. That would be a dodgy proposition at the best of times. But in the Mediterranean those grandchildren are never going to be born. That's the difference: In America, the improvident, insatiable boobs in Washington, Sacramento, Albany, and elsewhere are screwing over our kids and grandkids. In Europe, there are no kids or grandkids to screw over. In the end the entitlement state disincentivizes everything from wealth creation to self-reliance to the survival instinct, as represented by the fertility rate. If the problem with socialism, as Mrs Thatcher famously said, is that eventually you run out of other people's money, the problem with Greece and much of Europe is that they've advanced to the next stage: They've run out of other people, period. All the downturn has done is brought forward by a couple of decades the west's date with demographic destiny.

The United States has a fertility rate of around 2.1 — or just over two kids per couple. Greece, as I pointed out in America Alone, has one of the lowest fertility rates on the planet - 1.3 children per couple, which places it in the "lowest-low" demographic category from which no society has recovered and, according to the UN, 178th out of 195 countries. In practical terms, it means 100 grandparents have 42 grandkids – ie, the family tree is upside down.

That's the arithmetic that brought Ms Psarianou to her empty ATM: As I said all those years ago, how likely is it that the debts run up by 100 people will be paid off by 42?

Greek public sector employees are entitled not only to 14 monthly paychecks per annum during their "working" lives, but also 14 monthly retirement checks per annum till death. Who's going to be around to pay for that?

So you can't borrow against the future because, in the crudest sense, you don't have one. Greeks in the public sector retire at 58, which sounds great. But, when ten grandparents have four grandchildren, who pays for you to spend the last third of your adult life loafing around?

Welcome to My Big Fat Greek Funeral.

We hard-hearted small-government guys are often damned as selfish types who care nothing for the general welfare. But, as the protests in Greece, France, Britain and beyond make plain, nothing makes an individual more selfish than the generous collectivism of big government: Give a chap government health care, government-paid vacation, government-funded early retirement and all the other benefits, and the last thing he'll care about is what it means for society as a whole. People's sense of entitlement endures long after the entitlement has ceased to make sense. And, if it bankrupts the entire state a generation from now, so what? In his pithiest maxim, John Maynard Keynes, the most influential economist of the 20th century social-democratic state and the patron saint of "stimulus", offered a characteristically offhand dismissal of any obligation to the future: "In the long run we are all dead." The Greeks are Keynesians to a man: The mob is rioting for the right to carry on suspending reality until they're all dead. After that, who cares..?

Greek public servants have their nose to the grindstone 24/7: They work 24 hours a week for seven months of the year. It's not just that every year you receive 14 monthly payments, but that you only do about 30 weeks' work for it. For many public-sector "workers", the work day ends at 2.30pm. Gosh, when you retire on your 14 monthly pension payments, you scarce notice the difference, except for a few freed-up mornings...

They share that at least with the US Supreme Court. "Rights" are no longer restraints against the state but the gift of a generous sovereign:

Greece, wrote Theodore Dalrymple, is "a cradle not only of democracy but of democratic corruption" - of electorates who give their votes to leaders who bribe them with baubles purchased by borrowing against a future that can never pay it off. The advanced democracies with their mountains of sovereign debt are the equivalent of old people who've blown through their capital and are all out of ideas looking for young people flush enough to bail them out. And the idea that it might be time for the spendthrift geezers to change their ways butts up against their indestructible moral vanity. In 2009, President Sarkozy prissily declared that the G20 summit provided "a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to give capitalism a conscience". European capitalism may have a conscience. It's not clear it has a pulse. And, actually, when you're burning Greek bank clerks to death in defense of your benefits, your "conscience" isn't much in evidence, either.

 
Goldman "Conspiracy Theory" Validated As ECB Expands QE Program

Tyler Durden on 07/02/2015

The ECB has expanded the list of SSA securities eligible for purchase under PSPP. The updated list includes:
  • Tyoettoemyysvakuutusrahasto
  • OeBB-Infrastruktur
  • Asfinag
  • Infraestruturas de Portugal
  • Entidade Nacional para o Mercado de Combustiveis
  • Ferrovie dello Stato Italiane
  • Terna Spa - Rete Elettrica Nazionale
  • ENEL
  • SNAM
  • Administrador de Infraestructuras Ferroviarias – Alta
  • Velocidad
  • SNCF Reseau
  • Caisse Nationale des Autoroutes
  • DARS
Since the program’s inception, we and others have said the central bank will likely need to add more names to the list of QE-eligible SSA bonds or move into corporate credit in order to ensure that NCBs can meet their purchase targets under the capital key (especially in core markets where scarcity is a problem) and in order to allay concerns about liquidity in the secondary market for some core EGBs.

That said, the decision to expand the list this week is obviously no coincidence and reflects the fact that the ECB is keen to ensure there are no lasting “spillover” effects from the meltdown in Greece on periphery yields which the central bank has worked so hard to keep unrealistically low.

The move also, as RBS noted this morning, shows the ECB is “ready to intervene closer to the real economy.” RBS also says the bank could move into IG corporate credit next, something we predicted months ago when we discussed the lower limit problem.

So that’s the surface-level analysis.

Beyond that, today’s announcement by the ECB seems to prove what we said in “Goldman’s Conspiracy Theory Stunner"; namely that Mario Draghi wants to push Greece over the edge in order to give himself an excuse to expand QE. Here's how we explained the situation earlier this week:

Early last week we presented something rather shocking: a note by Goldman Sachs suggested that as a result of the ECB's QE failure to push the EUR lower and with bond yields having risen instead of falling since the launch of the ECB's QE in March, and perhaps due to a perplexing conflict between the ECB and the Bundesbank when it comes to debt monetization, a Greek default sparking contagion blowout risk, not to mention a "seven big figure" tumble in the EURUSD, may be just what the ECB needs.

On one hand, the Goldman assessment was not surprising: after all the bank's top trade for 2015 has been that the EUR will go much lower from current levels so in many ways it was self-serving. But, what's far more stunning is that Goldman, accurately, assessed the ECB's needs in light of what is increasingly seen by many as a QE program that is faltering just 4 months after its launch, and the direct implication was evident: for all the posturing and bluffing from Greece that it won't be blackmailed, it may have fallen precisely in a trap set by none other than the ECB.


The only hurdle was getting the Greeks to accept the blame for the failure of the negotiations which happened, at least in the perspective of the Eurozone, when Tsipras announced the referendum after midnight on Friday.

With Thursday's move, the ECB has set the stage for the expansion of QE, suggesting that indeed, the escalation of the Greek drama has served its purpose. No one will question the expansion of the eligible SSA list, especially given the fact that the central bank can say the move gives supply-constrained NCBs more options when it comes to hitting their monthly targets.

We would venture to say that it's now just a matter of time before €60 billion/month becomes €70 or €80 billion and then, once the EGB and SSA markets have been sufficiently cornered, it will be on to euro IG corporate credit before Draghi finally becomes Kuroda by throwing the ECB's balance sheet at the DAX, CAC, and IBEX at the first sign of trouble.
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/03/us-eurozone-greece-bitcoin-idUSKCN0PD1B420150703

There is at least one legal way to get your euros out of Greece these days, to guard against the prospect that they might be devalued into drachmas: convert them into bitcoin.

Although absolute figures are hard to come by, Greek interest has surged in the online "cryptocurrency", which is out of the reach of monetary authorities and can be transferred at the touch of a smartphone screen.

New customers depositing at least 50 euros with BTCGreece, the only Greece-based bitcoin exchange, open only to Greeks, rose by 400 percent between May and June, according to its founder Thanos Marinos, who put the number at "a few thousand". The average deposit quadrupled to around 700 euros.

Using bitcoin could allow Greeks to do one of the things that capital controls were put in place this week to prevent: transfer money out of their bank accounts and, if they wish, out of the country.

"When people are trying to move money out of the country and the state is stopping that from taking place, bitcoin is the only way to move any value," said Adam Vaziri, a board member of the UK Digital Currency Association.

"There aren't any other options unless you buy diamonds, and that's very difficult to move."

But Marinos said the bitcoin buyers' main aim was to shield their money against the prospect that Greece might leave the euro zone and convert all the deposits in Greek banks into a greatly devalued national currency. If voters reject the demands of international creditors in a referendum on Sunday, this becomes much more likely.

"A lot of people are keeping all the bitcoins they buy on our platform, until they understand what to do with them," Marinos said. "In their eyes, now they have bitcoins, they're safe."

VOLATILE CURRENCY

That said, the value of a bitcoin, a web-based digital currency invented six years ago that floats freely and is not backed by a government or central bank, has been highly volatile.

It peaked at over $1,200 in late 2013 before crashing almost 70 percent in less than a month after a hacking attack on the Tokyo-based bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox in early 2014.

This week, as Greece defaulted on a debt to the IMF, the price jumped to a 3-1/2-month high of $268 BTC=BTSP on the Bitstamp exchange - up more than 20 percent since the start of June - while the number of daily transactions reached a record 150,917.

Most bitcoin-watchers reckon the digital currency's rise is mostly due to speculators betting that capital controls would trigger heavy demand. In March-April 2013, when Cyprus clamped down on bank withdrawals, bitcoin rocketed almost 700 percent.

Coinbase, one of the world's biggest bitcoin wallet providers, which is not currently accessible to Greeks, said it had seen huge interest from Italy, Spain and Portugal.

It said the average daily sign-ups from euro zone countries had increased 350 percent since the start of June. Average daily bitcoin purchases from the euro zone this week were up 250 percent compared with June's average.

On June 20, Greece got its first bitcoin "ATM", in a family-run bookstore in Acharnes on the outskirts of Athens.

There, if they had them, customers could insert euros and in return receive bitcoin at the current exchange rate, which they would scan into an electronic "wallet" on their smartphones.

But with Greeks having to form long queues at bank ATMs just to receive a meager 60 euros' cash a day, this machine has seen no customers since talks with creditors broke down on Saturday.

"Before Saturday, there was some very limited interest, mostly customers asking what it does and how it works," said Maria Varila, an employee in the shop. "Since Saturday, however, when all hell broke loose, there has literally been zero interest."
 
It´s a shame.
Banks nowadays can take any amount of money. But if you want to withdraw just a specific amount.
Most of the money in the accounts is just a nuber.
Real hardware money like stamps is not available
So when everybody wants to have the money he ownes in the bank the syste breas together.
The banks don`t care as teh state floods them with credits then so the bank will never stop doing their dirty game.
 
It´s a shame.
Banks nowadays can take any amount of money. But if you want to withdraw just a specific amount.
Most of the money in the accounts is just a nuber.
Real hardware money like stamps is not available
So when everybody wants to have the money he ownes in the bank the syste breas together.
The banks don`t care as teh state floods them with credits then so the bank will never stop doing their dirty game.
It's worse than that. Most of what you deposit is loaned out to others. Fractional reserve banking has always been a ponzi scheme. Historically, bankers were killed when they were caught doing this. Now it's the basis of every developed nation's economy.

Banks can also "borrow" from central banks which "create" the money they lend inflating the money supply (and prices). The central banks also buy government debt with money they create, then collect interest on that debt. This also inflates the money supply and drives up prices.
 
absolutely true.
the main thing is the bankers know the the people around and stupid and do not know how the system works.
Only a few know about the dirty system where only a few make billions and all other have to pay for this.
there was a famous person I do not know who exactly it was he mention something like: if humans would understand the system of money right now a revolution would start.
 
It's worse than that. Most of what you deposit is loaned out to others. Fractional reserve banking has always been a ponzi scheme. Historically, bankers were killed when they were caught doing this. Now it's the basis of every developed nation's economy.

Banks can also "borrow" from central banks which "create" the money they lend inflating the money supply (and prices). The central banks also buy government debt with money they create, then collect interest on that debt. This also inflates the money supply and drives up prices.


Yes this very true. And thats how America was formed. Breaking free from Britain, because our founding fathers believed in living in a country WITHOUT a central bank. And America THRIVED for almost 200 years without one. Up until 1913 when the shady criminals found a way snake their way into our country's money system to take over America and disguise a central bank under the federal name. Then the federal reserve was born. After that happened all of a sudden America becomes involved in all sorts of outside conflicts 1914 WW1 also WW2 and every other war we have been involved in. We lived for a very long time without outside conflicts because we had an economy free from control by the war mongering central bankers.

Our country was taken over and that is an absolute FACT. Anyone that doesnt understand this, doesnt understand history.


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

-Thomas Jefferson
 
absolutely correct.
They made us beeing addicted to bank.
Here in Europe you cannot get any flat to rent, not any job without a bank account.
40 years ago that was easy possible without.
They make you addicted and see all about your money.
Next step here is trying to make it possible to pa until 1000€ in cash.
All others will be not possible, only by Card.
To prevent blackmoney is their main argument...those do these say which make money by all dirty ways they can find.
 
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