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Group Probes Ease and Danger of Buying Steroids Online - ABC News


On YouTube, videos advertise and include links to sites where anyone can buy steroids. Many of the sellers are from overseas and claim they do not require a prescription, which would be illegal in the US.

“This is international drug-dealing,” said Tom Galvin of the Digital Citizens Alliance. “It’s coming from places we have no control over, and it’s going directly to our kids.”

The Digital Citizens Alliance, an online watchdog, saw an explosion of these sites this year and went shopping.

One package arrived from Thailand, but the product said it was made in Pakistan. Another package came from Slovakia but the product’s packaging read China. Orders from one other website never arrived.

Testing by the organization showed that while one vial contained steroids, their potency was unclear. Another vial supposed to have human growth hormone, did not. The lab could not determine just what was in the container, other than the fact that it was a protein.

“There have been instances where they [vials] have been found to have lead or arsenic,” Galvin said.

Much of the raw product comes from China, and the steroids are not always made in sterile conditions.

YouTube, which makes money from ads for all kinds of things that accompany the videos, told ABC News that it had systems in place to prevent advertisements from appearing on objectionable content and that it removed “millions of videos each year that violate our policies.”

But critics such as Don Hooton, whose son Taylor Hooton, 17, committed suicide in 2003 after using steroids and becoming depressed, said YouTube should be more proactive.

“If the kids can find these sites, then [parent company] Google and YouTube can find these sites and shut them down,” said Hooten who lives in Texas.

After ABC News asked questions, YouTube said that it would block its ads connected to “buy steroid” searches.

“We take user safety seriously and have guidelines that prohibit any content encouraging dangerous, illegal activities. This includes content promoting the sale of drugs. YouTube’s review teams respond to videos flagged for our attention around the clock, removing millions of videos each year that violate our policies. We also have stringent advertising guidelines, and work to prevent ads appearing against any video, channel or page once we determine that the content is not appropriate for our advertising partners,” YouTube said in a statement. “YouTube has developed proactive systems that work to prevent ads from running against objectionable content. This includes content classified by our systems as related to pharmaceuticals. Any video content containing terms associated with prescription drugs is also blocked from receiving advertising.”
 
“This is international drug-dealing,” said Tom Galvin of the Digital Citizens Alliance. “It’s coming from places we have no control over, and it’s going directly to our kids.”



“There have been instances where they [vials] have been found to have lead or arsenic,”




But critics such as Don Hooton, whose son Taylor Hooton, 17, committed suicide in 2003 after using steroids and becoming depressed, said YouTube should be more proactive.

It's all about the kids. What better way to pursue your agenda than to threaten someones kids? This is nothing short of anti-steroid propaganda. If these "parents" were more involved in their kid's lives, they wouldn't have a chance to get caught up in steroids.

The note on lead and arsenic is the only legitimate complaint in the article. Legitimate Chinese products have been found with lead contamination every now and then, so I can only imagine what conditions these raws are being manufactured in. It wouldn't be a bad idea to get lead levels checked from time to time.

As far as the kid who committed suicide goes, I'm willing to bet there were a number of factors far greater than steroids that contributed to his decision to take his life.
 
It would be interesting to see statistics on % of scam sites vs legit. Also to see the actual dosing % of various labs. Just very hard to do since it is all illegal
 
Regardless of what happened to his son, Don Hooten should eat a bag of dicks for all the misinformation and lies he spreads about PEDs. Either that or he should read a fucking book.
 
These guys aren't even on the same page. The Digital Citizens Alliance wants Google to stop selling ads against videos/websites that sell steroids. But Hooton wants Google to censor ("shut down") those steroid sites.These are entirely different agendas. Why are they featured together in the same article?
 
I personally feel bad for hooten- imagine being completely unable to see that a child on steroids at a too young age and antidepressants probably had glaring issues that he failed to recognize as a parent... im sure he signed on the line for the ssri meds, so blaming that would equate to blaming himself. pointing the finger at the only thing he has no ties to is the only thing that allows him to field no personal responsibility for the tragedy. I remember thinking that he probably takes better care of his car than his children when I saw that documentary. losing a child is unthinkable; blaming everyone else for it is unforgivable.
 
I personally feel bad for hooten- imagine being completely unable to see that a child on steroids at a too young age and antidepressants probably had glaring issues that he failed to recognize as a parent... im sure he signed on the line for the ssri meds, so blaming that would equate to blaming himself. pointing the finger at the only thing he has no ties to is the only thing that allows him to field no personal responsibility for the tragedy. I remember thinking that he probably takes better care of his car than his children when I saw that documentary. losing a child is unthinkable; blaming everyone else for it is unforgivable.

I wonder if he, or most people for that matter, realize that there are side effects to the prescribed medications that doctors hand out. Because steroids have been classified as a controlled substance and have a stigma about them, they are bad. But the prozac that you give your kid that made him go on a homicidal rage is ok because it was prescribed by a doctor?

I guess its easier to blame on that then admit that there are many more contributing factors?
 
I am so sick of our government using children for their agenda. Used children to try to disarm america. Obama made executive orders on shutting down coal, he said it is for the future of our children. Hitler used children also for his propaganda. Its all about taking away our freedoms, one piece at a time. Boo hoo save the children.
 
I cant afford to eat organic, but it is funny how they use children for a steroid agenda yet care nothing about the gmo antibiotic pesticide ridden shit everyone feeds their kids every day. makes sense- why try to help every child when you can spend time and money helping 1% of them, right?
 
I am so sick of our government using children for their agenda. Used children to try to disarm america. Obama made executive orders on shutting down coal, he said it is for the future of our children. Hitler used children also for his propaganda. Its all about taking away our freedoms, one piece at a time. Boo hoo save the children.
Man as a citizen and a vet(who can speak out at will now) fuck the government and Im not talking about Obama.

The legislature does NOT reflect what I sent them there to do! Am I alone in this?

The gov. is"of the people,by the people and for the people." my aching ASS! i see the legislature as pandering to a monetarily giving group of PAC's and high rollers.I do not smoke MJ(yet), but if someone wants AAS or marijuana,or too do ANYTHING as long as it doesnt infringe on anothers rights then what the hell?

I know Im probably babbling(and possibly in the wrong forum) but we have to somehow take our country back. I dont mean gunnin" up and doing maneuvers in the forest but if thats your thing then cool! WTF?

And ya'll are right..giving kids ssri's,etc knowing it often causes catastrophic sides(to use that term loosely) is beyond me. If I saw a med with a black-box warning to the effect of: May cause suicidal ideation in teens and preteens,etc call me a nut-job but Id have to think long and hard before giving it to a child.

Dont think Im saying that those who do are fruitcakes. My poor Neph is 13 and on 3 psych meds.. I think my pops just kicked my butt and said"stop throwin' rocks at the neighbors dog" or some shit.
The speciality groups like MADD are one thing......I got my body armor on so let the rock-tossing begin. even if ya' agree with me cause I know it can be fun tossing an occasional rock at a babbling loon!(kidding,as I may be one) Fuck..did I just lose my shit in public? I think I said this out loud. Oh well cause Im sick of the gov. trying everything possible,e.g. gun control,AAS,anti-MJ,etc to sway us claiming we are "harming the well-spring of youth"
Fuck the way the gov. takes peoples children away from them without real due-process is appalling!!

I saw some people use human-shields somewhere I once was to do much the same thing!!

OK Ill hush up now but man do I feel better!! Been dying to say this for years! Goose
 
First of all,sorry I fucking lost it in my post. Just that Ive seen (as we all have) some fuckd up stuff coming outta Washington.

I dont recall asking the government to do anything but leave us the fuck alone.
Sure I like the standing military,the infrastructure and all the goodies.
Hell Goldman-sachs,one of those investment banks they bailed out(nothing wrong with our gov. saving valued corps.) is doing this 10,000 woman thing whereas they are helping 10,000 women from around the world start businesses.
Why not help 10,000 American women start businesses?
Maybe this is a tired argument but WTF, we could sure use the capital it would raise.
The government is allowing the exportation of the millions of dollars necessary to do this
If I want to send 1000$ overseas I have to fill out an ass-load of paper!
This country,Kawlit I dont really want as it stands.

We must be able to do something. Maybe get it rolling and our kids and theirs can finish it. Hell I dunno! Ill be damned, I turn o the news and Congress is debating gun-control. WTF the second amendment already put that one to bed I thought.

Giving drugs that harm our kids? cause some nutjob on CNN says WE,the users of AAS are the REAL baddies? Because we want to be the best we can?
I never saw anyone burn a fat spliff and wrap their car around a phone pole(maybe wrap themselves around a bag of Cheetos!) But look how they fight us. US. The people with the supposed power,the popular vote is for shit. Its the Electoral College.
I guess Im railing like this because Im afraid Kawilt is right!
Fuck,I think a vein in my brain just popped(again)! Asia Pharma are drug Kingpins!
What about the Kennedys? Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger and everyone knew it.
F. Roosevelt was the only one with the balls to tell him to piss off when Kennedy called and said"Im ready to assume my Generalcy" in WWII.

Id better clam up now cause Ive said too much. one last thing..this country is OURS but it is also of the 22 God-awful countries Ive been to the hands -down BEST there is! Second to none. No coincidence that it is a conglomeration of zillions of races from all over the globe!
Im NOT knocking the good ol" USA!!! Its our House of Reps. They may go to the hill all gung-ho meaning to do as they promised,but as soon as they arrive,reality hits. If they dont "play ball" they'll get for shit done and be one- termers!
Enough!

Now..back to the newsroom! Maybe our President will catch a break instead of a fainting chick! That was a Libertarian statement, I dont even have a beef with Obama! Well Kawilt..youre probably right! Smart man. Thanks for letting me "sound-off"! Goose
 
if you can't rant on the internet where can you rant? Seems a politically loaded thread would be the place. just my opinion juice. keep it real
 
Thanks Brutus. I thought Id overstepped but when you,several PM's and a real Cold-War Vet, Kawilt said what you said I felt empowered.

This IS a forum for political,and otherwise issues so......
See Men,its like this..In the Corps(God Loves us cause we keep Heaven full of fresh souls) Im getting over that,but it just means we do our best. A new but wise friend is helping me overcome 26 years of indoctrination!! Pray for us!!

Well lines like that didnt originate in movies. The Gunnery Sgt. in the flick,Full Metal..R.L. Ermey, was a real Staff Sergeant in the "Old Corps",whatever that means. He ad-libbed his lines. Did his own thing. It worked!

I need to get to my point: the Corps has one and only one way of doing things and that is primarily to build teammanship and unwavering obedience to orders. Great stuff for a WarFighter,for us civilians..lots of salient parallels!

It may leave little room for openly expressing individual thought. though initiative is highly prized. More parallels.


One would no more question the Corps traditions nor express what I did in last post. But after almost 26 years in Service I can say what I feel without risking my paygrade.HAHA! Congress is like a Drill Instructor..STFU and do as WE say!!! Sorta!

I loved my time in the Corps but I love my American brothers and sisters freedoms more! And our quality of life!

I just feel that it would be nice if the Congress n' Senate would quit screwing around and TRULY listen to us. Once we put them there on the Hill they develop selective hearing.
They damn sure hear the register ching when a PAC or high-roller drops a load into a re-election kitty.
I do NOT know what its gonna take and do not pretend to.
But I feel that if we pick a challenge wisely,whether its the dearest of our desires, or one of them, if we dig in our heels deep enough we will prevail!!

Take Gun Control. we all know,even in countries where citizens cant even possess guns, the bad-guys got 'em!!
2nd amendment is quite clear. Large capacity clips,assault rifles,etc. Whats the dif. They are splitting hairs on us.Stealthily eroding ALL of our guaranteed rights.
Limit the magazine cap. to 5 now. No more than 3 shells in a shotgun. Cops have the high cap shit though! Only the deer and ducks are thankful!

The Patriot Act helps us fight terrorism.Cool. But according to our Steroid News Forum it also helps the FBI bust AAS providers and quadruple prison beds for casual MJ users.

Worst of all,they blame aas users for the tragic suicide of a majorly depressed youngster on psych. meds. why not? easy targets. Right?


And who among us wants to write our Congressman that this is bullshit? I did and got a letter saying "I have forwarded your thoughts to Senator X. Thank you." Crap!

Marijuana after 40 something years and some are finally listening cause again they hear coins drop into the machine. If I want I can grow 16 plants here. Neeto!

Steroids and other stuff. I and I alone will decide what I put in my body! If I get in trouble,so be it. Ill state my opinion LOUDLY at my sentencing!
If we pick a topic and go ape-shit on THE HOUSE they'll have little choice but to hear us.What then? I dunno. But lets give it a whirl!!
Or just get our ears tattooed like cattle and plod along with the herd! Screw that!!!
This is the BEST country on the planet. We CAN do this if we really try.
WE Civilians have "Manifest Destiny" we get what we make of ourselves.Right?

Sorry I wrote a manifesto again but DAMN I hope it was worth reading! God bless USA and our people!!!! If you feel me on this..Please chime in! Goose
 

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