Hardcore-labs is Bunk

[NP4ch]

Week 6
no increased libido
no water retention
No major progression on lifts, just during some time on bench, but it is now stagnating.
Nutrition is perfect
I'm on 500 mg test e and 150mg tren/week and i haven't seen any differences.
I've read thousands of logs/stories online as well as talking to some user in the gym and i don't come even close to the effect people have from a 500mg test e cycle. I've seen people on the juice IRL and i can tell i'm not following the transformation they had

I've made a log, you can read it but there is not much information in it.
This is where i ordered from : Welcome to Hardcore Roids
I will post this info on other boards.

 

[biggerben69]

How many other cycles have you ran in your time? What's your age and ht weight and approximate bf%.
When you say your diet is perfect or right on what exactly do you mean? Any idea how many calories you're getting each day? Can you give us an approximate % of calorie increase since you started this run?
I'm just curious about this stuff. 500mg of test E and 150mg of tren after I've been cruising on 250mg of test or something isn't gonna do much for me. 150mg of tren is a tease.

 

[justhav2p]

Blood test is the real answer.

 

[MANWHORE]

bunk
[ bungk ]

1. simple bed: a simple narrow bed built on a shelf or in a recess
2. sleeping place: any bed or place to sleep
3. pile of vegetables: a heap of vegetables, usually potatoes,
covered with earth and mulch and sometimes stored in a shed.

I'm guessing your referring to #3...
Yea, that even sounds nasty.

 

[NP4ch]

What does bunk mean? bunk Definition. Meaning of bunk. OnlineSlangDictionary.com
Maybe that could help you.
>of poor quality; displeasing


5'11
around 170 lbs 13% bf
It is my first cycle, it is more that a dozen of time the level of androgen i was exposed to before the cycle. Yet, nothing really noticeable happened
10 or 20mg dbol pre workout is what had the most obvious effect in the cycle.
20mg being on another level when it come to pump and increase in strength.
(i had a dbol sample from another source)

 

[MANWHORE]

What does bunk mean? bunk Definition. Meaning of bunk. OnlineSlangDictionary.com
Maybe that could help you.
>of poor quality; displeasing

You mean, the earth, mulch and rotting
vegetables weren't displeasing enough???
OK, they didn't say rotting, but
it almost looked that way...

The increased sexdrive is what I usually
go by, just to tell if it's gear, at all...
Then the strength and size...
I always get extreme pumps, so
I can't really go by that..

I tweeted about my ON casein Chobani mix,
and Chobani Favorited my tweet ..
Maybe they will send me some
free yogurt... or maybe not

 

[NP4ch]

well, he used grapeseed oil, so that's not even from a vegetable
No increase in libido was what worried me. I didn't to call it bunk but now i think it's safe to say it is. It sucks, will share my stories on other boards tomorrow when i have some free time.

I wonnder what Dutch is going to say

 

[Grozny]

lately there is a lot of bad feedback concerning this lab, a pure scam I wouldnt use it either. go with geneza imo its quite good lab with decent prices.

 

[Dr JIM]

I too would like to see Dutch redress the OP's complaint either by PM or via open forum, the latter being preferable. Doing otherwise compromises his own credibility and that of HCL, IMO.

jim

 

[mands]

I too would like to see Dutch redress the OP's complaint either by PM or via open forum, the latter being preferable. Doing otherwise compromises his own credibility and that of HCL, IMO.

jim

Realdutch was the story???

mands

 

[Grozny]

probably he will show u some photoshopped labtest with overdosed results...

 

[mands]

probably he will show u some photoshopped labtest with overdosed results...

I took his HCL Test Cyp. and his GL Test Cyp. and it was good. This was last year. Have not ran anything as of late.

mands

 

[Grozny]

yep they used to produce a quality stuff but for the moment i ve heard only a complains.

 

[NP4ch]

I emailed him and he has agreed to send other items of an equivalent value.
I will post update

 

[Dr JIM]

OP
I hope your NOT telling me/us this is the first attempt at contacting HCL?

"RealDutch" in particular seemed like a straight shooter, based on my observation.

 

[NP4ch]

Well, i was just stating a fact, so i don't really understand why i would possibly need to contact him. It wouldn't change anything if i did.. The fact is i ordered products from them and these products didn't gave me anything close to the expected result. Now, i contacted him, and, as i said earlier, he accepted to send me items of equals value.

 

[Dr JIM]

It's a business and like any business errors occur!

Consequently IMO before you call someone a scammers or infer all their product are "bunk", especially ON AN OPEN FORUM how about making contact to allow them an opportunity to explain the circumstances and/or rectify the issue, like unlabeled vials, right SF!

JIM

 

[Frozenballs]

im doing 575mg test e 90 test p eod HCL from the same website, its day 13 and no increased libido or big increases in lifts either balls remain same size. But I started snoring, have a high blood pressure and increased heart rate. Should I be worried?

 

[NP4ch]

Well Jim, a lab shouldn't have problems like underdosed/bunk product. It can happens and that doesn't that this lab is pure shit. It could have been because of a lot of things. However, i think i did the right think by posting this.

1) If he send me these "bunk" items on purpose, people need to know.
2) If he has some sort of problem with his Test e and tren e, people need to know as well, because if they order now and get from the same batch as me, they will end up with the same lack of result.


>Frozenballs
I've never used test P, but i heard you should feel it around day 5 max 10.
I would give it some more time.

 

[steroidsfax]

It's a business and like any business errors occur!

Consequently IMO before you call someone a scammers or infer all their product are "bunk", especially ON AN OPEN FORUM how about making contact to allow them an opportunity to explain the circumstances and/or rectify the issue, like unlabeled vials, right SF!

JIM

Well I'm confused Jim. Because your first attempt to contact us regarding unlabeled vials was on the open forum, and not in private, so what is the difference? Between your actions and the OPs?
(I was not yet the full-time REP so it is possible you PMd and I am unaware) but I remember reading you post it to the forum, similar to how the OP did here.

To be completely honest it seems like there is some duality going on, what am I missing? The obvious fact; that dutch is respected by those who have your respect, should be irrelevant IMHO. I would think the same etiquette in reporting problems would apply regardless of the source.

I have enjoyed the hiatus to our bickering, and I hope we can have a fruitful conversation.

For the record. Those vials were shipped to our customers direct from SCIROXX and we were given no notification that it would be done, until after the packs landed.

I didn't think it would be prudent to "blame shift" back then in the heat of the moment, I wanted to move on and satisfy the customer. But now that, that situation is over, you know the full story.