Hardcore-labs is Bunk

[steroidsfax]

Well Jim, a lab shouldn't have problems like underdosed/bunk product. It can happens and that doesn't that this lab is pure shit. It could have been because of a lot of things. However, i think i did the right think by posting this.

1) If he send me these "bunk" items on purpose, people need to know.
2) If he has some sort of problem with his Test e and tren e, people need to know as well, because if they order now and get from the same batch as me, they will end up with the same lack of result.
Fozenballs
I've never used test P, but i heard you should feel it around day 5 max 10.
I would give it some more time.

Jim is right.....(ooohhgggt threw up in my mouth a lil bit) [)] LOL

Seriously though. There is an etiquette to reporting an issue with a lab. Try to remember they have to buy product too. They get a bad batch of horomone powder, and they might not catch it for awhile. If you knew the many ways a batch of oil can get ruined then you would understand shit happens.

When you make a mistake at work, you're not fired immediately right? Then why is HCL shit immediately considered a "shit lab"?

Please keep us updated, as the actions a source takes immediately FOLLOWING a mistake is the greatest single barometer for success IMO.

 

[NP4ch]

Jim is right.....(ooohhgggt threw up in my mouth a lil bit) [)] LOL

Seriously though. There is an etiquette to reporting an issue with a lab. Try to remember they have to buy product too. They get a bad batch of horomone powder, and they might not catch it for awhile. If you knew the many ways a batch of oil can get ruined then you would understand shit happens.

When you make a mistake at work, you're not fired immediately right? Then why is HCL shit immediately considered a "shit lab"?

Please keep us updated, as the actions a source takes immediately FOLLOWING a mistake is the greatest single barometer for success IMO.

I know all that mate.

It can happens and that doesn't MEAN that this lab is pure shit

I forgot the word mean.

 

[Frozenballs]

Well Jim, a lab shouldn't have problems like underdosed/bunk product. It can happens and that doesn't that this lab is pure shit. It could have been because of a lot of things. However, i think i did the right think by posting this.

1) If he send me these "bunk" items on purpose, people need to know.
2) If he has some sort of problem with his Test e and tren e, people need to know as well, because if they order now and get from the same batch as me, they will end up with the same lack of result.


>Frozenballs
I've never used test P, but i heard you should feel it around day 5 max 10.
I would give it some more time.

Ive been told that the injection of test p should burn, as its a short esther. It doesnt feel any different than injecting test e. Ah well its day 13 now, just had chest day. No strenght improvements. Ill see what happens next week

 

[BigSha]

I was looking for to order so Hcl this December and if i am not wrong the prices now are 20-30 % less . They are selling cheap?! Why?!

 

[NP4ch]

https://thinksteroids.com/community/posts/875126

 

[Dr JIM]

My suspicion is some vials with oil yet no AAS became mixed with those containing the requisite anabolic, (which is MUCH more common in labs that make their "own products" such as HCL) and subsequently mailed to prospective buyers before the error was detected.

Nonetheless, rest assured I've no vested interest in HCL, because you experienced an singular act of omission on the part of HCL a post is written stating "Hardcore Labs is Bunk", without even contacting them before doing so. (That's analogous to the proclamation "HCL is GTG" after receiving one order)

How about next time contacting the supplier, inquire about the error and ask for remediation on their behalf or simply formulate a post stating the products YOU received were NOT GTG.

However an adverse comment generalized to a companies entire product line because of a presumed single oversight, which is common to ALL UGL labs, is short sighted, devoid of understanding human nature, and is also one reason some labs won't sell to noobs, IMO.

Take it for why it's worth, and if that's nothing so be it.

JIM

 

[NP4ch]

I reckon it was a big statement, but i maintain that i did right.. It wasn't just a batch from one hormone, it was several. It's was more than likely that he had a problem with his entire oil line, probably because his last order of powder was shitty. Look at the link i posted. I am not the only with problem´so that turned out to be right.

>Test p bunk
>Test e bunk
>Tren e bunk

You'll notice that is said hardcore labs is bunk not hardcore-roids and i didn't say the supplier is to blame with that.
I posted pic of items he sent me to make up for the bunk oil, Wich are of greater value than the said oil

 

[Grozny]

HCL is a pure shit, there is a many other good UG brands in EU.

 

[Dr JIM]

No doubt when several mates have issues similar to those your describing OP, not only is a BOLD IN YOUR FACE "BUNK" post appropriate, it's a dutiful obligation of Meso members IMO! GTG!!!!


Jim

 

[Frozenballs]

Their website seem te be down aswell, or is that just me.

Quick question. I am supposed to add proviron in my cycle in about 1.5 weeks. Now I still dont see any effect from neither Test P and Test E (day 18) besides increased blood pressure, higher heart rate, snoring, slight strenght increase (can be because of the creatine) Shall I just start proviron, or wait till I see that the test e is kicking in, lost my hopes on test P.

 

[matthunter]

Their website seem te be down aswell, or is that just me.

Quick question. I am supposed to add proviron in my cycle in about 1.5 weeks. Now I still dont see any effect from neither Test P and Test E (day 18) besides increased blood pressure, higher heart rate, snoring, slight strenght increase (can be because of the creatine) Shall I just start proviron, or wait till I see that the test e is kicking in, lost my hopes on test P.

What else do you expect mate? Looking like Phil Heath over night?

@ppl claiming HCL sells bunk gear: I usually don't post on this board, I just read to stay informed but it is incredible that haters are all the same, no matter what board you visit. And people who claim that HCL sells bunk gear should either get their head examined or stop using roids. To be fair, there have been minor problems in the past, I won't go into details here, but everyone who contacted them received compensation! So in general: If your gear isn't gtg you should contact your source first, just like Dr. Jim said and NOT cry publicly like you have PMS. Next time take some ari or letro before you post

 

[Frozenballs]

What else do you expect mate? Looking like Phil Heath over night?

@ppl claiming HCL sells bunk gear: I usually don't post on this board, I just read to stay informed but it is incredible that haters are all the same, no matter what board you visit. And people who claim that HCL sells bunk gear should either get their head examined or stop using roids. To be fair, there have been minor problems in the past, I won't go into details here, but everyone who contacted them received compensation! So in general: If your gear isn't gtg you should contact your source first, just like Dr. Jim said and NOT cry publicly like you have PMS. Next time take some ari or letro before you post

Well when im able to bench 286lbs x4 without gear and after running test p 100mg eod for 18 days now im able to do 2 reps of 286. my squat increased with 2 reps and my deadlift went from 8x 400lbs to 5x 420lbs. Im expecting more from test P which should kick in in 5 days. No libido increase either, no good mood feeling or any other effects. I hope the side effect I have are from the test e and it hasnt kicked in strenght wise yet.

I sent HCL an email, asking them about the holograms on the label which are different. They say they are legit and hardcore-roids is their own webshop. Havent had a reply on my email to hardcore-roids about an error in the items they sent me, but like a said their website is down for me so I expect their email service is aswell. Ill just wait and see.

 

[matthunter]

Well when im able to bench 286lbs x4 without gear and after running test p 100mg eod for 18 days now im able to do 2 reps of 286. my squat increased with 2 reps and my deadlift went from 8x 400lbs to 5x 420lbs. Im expecting more from test P which should kick in in 5 days. No libido increase either, no good mood feeling or any other effects. I hope the side effect I have are from the test e and it hasnt kicked in strenght wise yet.

I sent HCL an email, asking them about the holograms on the label which are different. They say they are legit and hardcore-roids is their own webshop. Havent had a reply on my email to hardcore-roids about an error in the items they sent me, but like a said their website is down for me so I expect their email service is aswell. Ill just wait and see.

Well a lot of roid related sites suffer from DDOS attacks atm and HCR is one of them but they should be back soon.

I have used the Test E myself and it is spot on, no difference to human grade Test E. I can't speak about the Test P from personal experience but on our german board the reviews are excellent. What Lot No. does your Test P have? So maybe give it a few more days and keep us updated how things turn out.

Regards
Matt

 

[Frozenballs]

Well I have never said HCL is bunk, I just think this was one bad batch. I cant judge wether or not the Test E is working, judging from the sides I expect it to work. I have 2 vial with different batch and 1 vial of test e with the same batch as OP (batch 5704 and 5692, bit worried about that one so will put it at the end of my cycle.

Test P is batch 2316

A friend of mine started HCL dbol and felt it working from the very first day. Ive also read tons of positive reviews about HCL on dutch websites.

 

[NP4ch]

people who claim that HCL sells bunk gear should either get their head examined or stop using roids.

That's an incedibly stupid statement.
I ordered product from them. There were different products from different batches and they ALL turned out to be useless. 500m legit test e + 150mg legit tren e per week is not useless. Just because i posted that these product were bunk (wich is the mere truth) i need to get my head examined?
The entire point of this board is to share your experiment with your source, good or bad, regardless of where you ordered from.
I think Hcl is a nice guy and i trully believe he didn't mean to send bad product but it simply doesn't matter. I related my experiment in its entirety and i think everybody should do the exact same.
If you don't agree with that, you are the one that need to get your head checked on

 

[Grozny]

imo its quite stupid comment if some gear is super underdosed then bro just keep a low profile and contact your source; what a bunch of bull shit. nobody really has money to waste these days.

 

[Dr JIM]

Quality labs sell quality gear CONSISTENTLY! It's not a hit and miss business arrangement whereupon one fella receives super-dosed gear yet another mate notices nada!

Unfortunately (because they have used Meso to trump sales) HCLs reputation is far less than stellar, one only has to "Google" the company to note that which I ("mixed reviews") and others are describing of late.

What's even more telling, NO ONE from HCL has made an attempt to rebut the adverse commentary recently posted on Meso!

Jim

 

[Grozny]

In their eshop hardcore-labs u can find only a hungarian replica's no original steroids, only genuine prod from their shop is hygetropin all rest are a copies that are sold for the prices of real steroids.

A main distributor of genesis is from hungary this same guy is selling only a replica of human grade steroids.

THIS SOURCE IS FULL OF SHIT NO REAL STUFF

 

[Grozny]

As I saw on their website Welcome to Hardcore Roids they are selling only a fakes products of human grade gear, copies that are sold for the price of the real one : all these products are actually bought from the cheap source in Hungary.

<<<<<HUMAN GRADE COPIES THAT ARE SOLD BY hardcore-roids.

DIANABOL AKRIHIN RUSSIA = copie that contain methlytesto instead of dianabol FAKE

NAPOSIM ROMANIA = copie that contain methlytesto instead of dianabol FAKE

DIANABOL BAYER-SCHERING = this product dont exist at all a pure copie, FAKE

TESTOVIS = FAKE

TESTO PROP UKRAINE = FAKE

TESTEX = FAKE

WINSTROL DEPOT ZAMBON = FAKE

Its quite risky game to buy a copies cuz nobody can be sure what can be find in the product .

In the summer of 2012 Italian government laboratory published an analyze of 15 seized steroids from the black market. see lab test of naposim instad to have methandienone they found methyltesto in the tabs, api that is 2 times cheaper than dianabol.

Source: Ann Anal Toxicol. 2012, 24 (2): 67-72.

See laboratory test :

 

[DMel]

F@cken Hell... it means I've been injecting shit! again placebo effect takes place.