Diet have nothing to do with this, even if u dont have a good diet when u cant push more than usual on the bench there is a problem with the product and not with a your diet.
MESO-Rx
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Hardcore-labs is Bunk
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Diet have nothing to do with this, even if u dont have a good diet when u cant push more than usual on the bench there is a problem with the product and not with a your diet.
Brah, i received bunk test e, bunk tren e, bunk test p and bunk stanozolol. someone else on this board ordered also test e, test p and tren and it was bunk as well. Talk about a bad batch.
I don't want to disparage the guy, he was very correct and polite and resent me items (even though most were bunk as well). the only thing that seems to have an effects is the dbol wich is very likely to be methyltest.
I did 4 weeks on 175mg tren and test e 500mg.
After 500mg test e
then 500mg test e + 300mg test P + the stanozolol.
Only a few reps won for the entire cycle, not really good is it?
I had more progress on one week of the supposedly methyltest dbol than the entire cycle of stronger compounds in an higher dosage.
The Dutchman
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I've been able to restore contact too. 'D' also mentioned that he would chime in to respond to this thread. I hope that he finds the oppotunity to do so and bring some more nuance to the topic.
With deference Dutch, "D" will need to do considerably more than chiming in to restore the credibility and confidence his company once had on Meso, but I'm quite sure you know that already.
Regards
JIM
Regards
JIM
faded
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I took HCL Dbol X for 2 weeks (its supposed to be 10 mg methandrostenolone and 2 mg methyl-testosterone. No noticable strenght gains but weight is gone up around 5kg (11lbs) in 2 weeks. My Dbol source is not Hardcore-roids. However I placed a little order on hardcore roids and I got no response yet in 3 days. Maybe they are busy with their new upcoming site. Anyway to be continued.
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The Dutchman
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Indeed I am aware of that and I guess so is "D". I was just transferring the info I got from him.
Thx
HCL have been covered only in all these magazines-books cuz u worked for William L. and that's all.
Orherwise can some one sent those "bunk" vials to RT for analysis ?
Orherwise can some one sent those "bunk" vials to RT for analysis ?
Thus you truely believe a UG can sell for more then 10 years, if they sell bunk?
And do you realy think Bill would post UG labs in his books that are not analysed properly, and risk his and the books reputation, only to please me?
Muscular Development - Ergogenics?? Come on you should know better.
I'm just pissed because some people post hate-mails and make unfunded claims..salad-oil ?..are they blind?
And do you realy think Bill would post UG labs in his books that are not analysed properly, and risk his and the books reputation, only to please me?
Muscular Development - Ergogenics?? Come on you should know better.
I'm just pissed because some people post hate-mails and make unfunded claims..salad-oil ?..are they blind?
A main problem with u bro is that u arent so objective in regard of HCL and your friend Dan. For the rest all your story about UG books and HCL analyses suckss, cuz there is no real credibility and again objectivity.
From my point of view its quite curious only 2 guys have a bad results but when u know that HCL exist for decades in Holland and I never saw any single complaints on the quality, its more than suspicious. On the worldwide scale after all these years HCL have been tested by thousand of users with a lot of success, just google it and u get some feedback's.
HCL is confirmed brand with a lot of references.
HCL is confirmed brand with a lot of references.
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R.Oids
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True that!
Frozenballs
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Currently 6 weeks on the test e (started off 575mg a week, now running 600-650mg/week), didnt really work for the first 5 weeks but seems to work right now... Making pretty good strenght gains (25lbs on bench and deadlift). Proviron I got from them slightly increased my libido but seems like it made me look dryer, running 50mg/day.
The test P was shit indeed, had contact with them and they are willing to send me 2 vials of test P from a different brand. Will let you guys know how it goes
The test P was shit indeed, had contact with them and they are willing to send me 2 vials of test P from a different brand. Will let you guys know how it goes
Stretch
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If I can ask; what did they require as verification that the TP was bunk?
Can't speak about the quality of this lab,'cause i never used its products.But it's also curious that some guys only participate in this fórum when the subject is "HCL" related.
>Without any proof.
I actually bought 3 vials from them, had no results. i'm not some other source creating accounts and disparaging other sources. I'm a young bodybuilder who ordered steroids on the internet and received shit, because it was. Same goes for the genesis prop they sent me.
I could take picture with time stamp and pseudo if you want.
Stop defending them, related to them or not
I stated in my topics my entire "journey" with them honestly and precisely.
Yes, he is a good guy and have a great customer service; Yes, he showed goodwill.
But the HCL products he sent me had no effects at all.
I actually bought 3 vials from them, had no results. i'm not some other source creating accounts and disparaging other sources. I'm a young bodybuilder who ordered steroids on the internet and received shit, because it was. Same goes for the genesis prop they sent me.
I could take picture with time stamp and pseudo if you want.
Stop defending them, related to them or not
I stated in my topics my entire "journey" with them honestly and precisely.
Yes, he is a good guy and have a great customer service; Yes, he showed goodwill.
But the HCL products he sent me had no effects at all.
>Without any proof.
I actually bought 3 vials from them, had no results. i'm not some other source creating accounts and disparaging other sources. I'm a young bodybuilder who ordered steroids on the internet and received shit, because it was. Same goes for the genesis prop they sent me.
I could take picture with time stamp and pseudo if you want.
Stop defending them, related to them or not
I stated in my topics my entire "journey" with them honestly and precisely.
Yes, he is a good guy and have a great customer service; Yes, he showed goodwill.
But the HCL products he sent me had no effects at all.
U just told us that your are "young bodybuilder", we can see it even on your bad formulation of cycle 500mg of testo e + 150mg of tren E /week are u kidding bro. As u can see you are using only a long ester for a quite small period 10 Weeks and at a super small dosage this is why its should take some time to start kicking and 10 weeks isnt enough for the rest 150mg of tren en per week
u most be jocking !!Week 1-10 : Test e 500MG (10w quite short time to see some noticeable results)
Week 2-6 : Tren e 150MG (totally useless)
To sum your story this is a super week and BAD formulation of cycle. Personally I wouldn't refund u for anything cuz your cycle is completely wrong.
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Frozenballs
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Was running test e and test p as kick start. Test p was shit as I mentioned before. The test e kicked in in week 6. Week 8 the side effects went away, strenght decreased and getting a weird feeling in my balls like they are trying to start production again. Was switching up last 2 vials, one including batch 5692.
Started running winny (HCL aswell) 40mg/day straight away as im in a cut, been on it for 2 days now so cant say anything about it. Going to start (counterfeit) BD test P, which I got from hardcore-roids cause my test p was shit, in 2 weeks and hope it contains testosteron to finish up my cycle. Dont think Ill be running HCL every again after this cycle.
Started running winny (HCL aswell) 40mg/day straight away as im in a cut, been on it for 2 days now so cant say anything about it. Going to start (counterfeit) BD test P, which I got from hardcore-roids cause my test p was shit, in 2 weeks and hope it contains testosteron to finish up my cycle. Dont think Ill be running HCL every again after this cycle.
DieYoungStrong
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U just told us that your are "young bodybuilder", we can see it even on your bad formulation of cycle 500mg of testo e + 150mg of tren E /week are u kidding bro. As u can see you are using only a long ester for a quite small period 10 Weeks and at a super small dosage this is why its should take some time to start kicking and 10 weeks isnt enough for the rest 150mg of tren en per week
Week 1-10 : Test e 500MG (10w quite short time to see some noticeable results)
Week 2-6 : Tren e 150MG (totally useless)
To sum your story this is a super week and BAD formulation of cycle. Personally I wouldn't refund u for anything cuz your cycle is completely wrong.
Dude YOU must be fucking joking...500 mg/week of test is a "super small dosage". I think this cyce sucks too, but yeah I'm sure if he bought 5 more vials from you and stayed on for 20 weeks all would be good.
A young bodybuilder doinig his first few cycles should see good results at 500mg test e/c per week for 10-12 weeks, but I's sure you would tell him he should be doing at least a gram a week. More is better right.
