HCG and Accutane

[destined4gr8ness]

I have one source that sells HCG along with other peptides and serms but no accutane, and another that sells research chems and accutane but no HCG. Do any of you know any places that sell both. I would like to limit the amount of places I get from. Plus a one stop place is awesome. Please PM me if you know of any

 

[The Messiah]

Accutane? Why?

 

[Pericles]

Accutane? Why?

Because HCG causes massive acne, at least for me. However, just be aware that Accutane is a very toxic and dangerous drug. It will turn a fetus into a monster, so absolutely do not use if there is even the slightest chance of getting pregnant. Birth defects are the most heartbreaking things in this wold, IMO.

Also, use only a fraction of the rec'ed dose. I am probably going to use 10 mgs e2d (typical prescribed amount is 20-40 mgs a day). Also, your acne will get worse before it gets better. The good part is that your skin should stay clear for a good while after, even if on cycle.

 

[Dr JIM]

Although environmental and hereditary factors certainly contribute, androgens, DHT in particular, have a much greater influence on the development of acne than estrogens, with estrogens believed to have a variable "protective effect" in some individuals.

No doubt higher testosterone levels are a major contributor to the roughly two fold higher incidence in adolescent males compared to females and an near tripling of the more severe form of acne (cystic, nodular, pustular) in males during this period of remarkably elevated testosterone levels.

Moreover if elevated E-2 was indeed causative the use of AI's would be expected to impart a difference in the development, progression or regression, of "AAS associated acne" and they most certainly do not IME. (Perhaps Dr. S is aware of a study, pro or con to enrich this thread)

Moreover considering the toxicity of Accutane it should only be used for recalcitrant forms of nodular-cystic acne which can create scaring. This form of acne is very rare after the age of FOURTY, especially with facial involvement, even in body builders on AAS.

Lastly using Accutane as the "go to drug" for BB whom develop acne, or as prophylaxis, is asking for unnecessary complications and should be eschewed IMO

Regards
JIM

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

i have used accutane {isotretinion} many times in long term {3-5 times} and i would never take it without taking milk thistle [1 gram} every day along with the accutane because like jim said its very toxic especially on ur liver

so that being said i have exsperience with it and it works great but i wouldnt go over 60mg per day unless you have a serious problem / i use 40mg per day in 10 - 20week cycle when i have used it

i have noticed no problems but i dont use high doses and there is no denying that it does work! i would say use it but be smart about it - treat it as if it was a steroid and stay safe

 

[Pericles]

Thanks PS.

Dr J: What is your take on using very small doses? I have busted my hump to get back into "looking good naked" shape. My wife's brother has many get togethers' scheduled for this summer (monster house w/ a pool). My body will be totally unrecognizable from last year when I was a fatty. A ton of acne on my back is sure to generate speculation of AAS use. Not to mention, it is disgusting.

Thus, all my hard work and solid eating are for nothing if I have a back full of cystic acne.

What is your opinion of using very small amounts (10 mgs) e2d?

 

[PS LABS FOUNDER]

I would say 10mg every 2 days would be pointless completely

just start with 20mg per day and see how it goes after like 4 weeks you should be seeing it working

thanks ps.

Dr j: What is your take on using very small doses? I have busted my hump to get back into "looking good naked" shape. My wife's brother has many get togethers' scheduled for this summer (monster house w/ a pool). My body will be totally unrecognizable from last year when i was a fatty. A ton of acne on my back is sure to generate speculation of aas use. Not to mention, it is disgusting.

Thus, all my hard work and solid eating are for nothing if i have a back full of cystic acne.

What is your opinion of using very small amounts (10 mgs) e2d?

 

[Pericles]

Really? I had great results from small amounts e2d back when I was competing.

I guess it was my imagination

Doc J and S, you had a derm rotation, yes?

 

[Dr JIM]

Get your back clean after work outs there are many products that are effective.
Ensure no oily residue remains if your using a tanning bed and apply a clean water based lotion thereafter.

If that doesn't work the cycline (doxycycline, minocycline) antibiotics are the next step.

That being said, at your age I have NO ONE on Accutane for acne and that's a considerable number of mates, and quite a few are in there 40's.

Why because the real reason the majority of BB use Accutane is their neglectful behaviors regarding cleanliness especially when it involves the back. Rest assured it's no coincidence the back is the overwhelmingly predominant
area of acne development in BB

Become proactive and innovative by purchasing a reasonably SOFT sponge brush which allows your muscle bound shoulders, arms and wrists to get back there!

Oh and unless your friends are brain dead, give them more credit than you do, because they realize any 40-50 year old whom has the body of a 20 year must be using AAS anyway so whom are you kidding, lol!

 

[No Known Address]

Just wondering since some BB use a dangerous prescription drug like Accutane to combat the acne, does anyone use a blood pressure medicine to control blood pressure while on ? I'm not talking about a script from your doctor but one from one of those Canadian pharmacies that offer everything under the sun without a perscription.

I see many guys have a BP issue while on but never saw anyone say they resorted to 'real' medicine to control it. I'm not suggesting anyone should but it's funny that to control acne a nasty drug like Accutane is used yet something more serious like BP is they advice is usually a 'natural' way such as reducing sodium, etc.

 

[Pericles]

Jim,

You are correct about the cleanliness. I work out, sweat from the weights, but my kickboxing cardio is insane, and I am dripping wet. There is sweat every where when I am done (this gym provides towels, so I wipe all the sweat down).

I then leave and go back to my store to close it down. By the time I get home and shower it has been 2-3 hours since I completed my workout. Yech, I know.

Back when I was competing, 18-20 years ago I lived in San Fran and the shower rooms where full of gay men checking me out, staring, etc. So I sort of have a fear of gym showers. However, at my age I should not draw so much attention.

Nowadays, if a gay man compliments me, I don't care if he is gay, I am grateful that another human being finds me attractive[)]

 

[attic]

im finding the price for hcg, at the few places ive found it, to be in the 60-90 dollar range-after shipping, money gram fees, etc. is this something that can be sourced domestic, get legit stuff and be cheaper?