HCG and test level increase?

[Annularnos]

I'm sure the answer to this question will vary from individual to individual, but....Generally speaking, how much more will 250iu HCG twice/week raise your test levels for a person that is already using 5mg Androgel?

 

[pmgamer18]

I don't do the gels anymore but maybe this can help you. I do 150 mgs. of Depo T shots eveyweek and my levels were 650 I started on Hcg 3 months ago 500 IU's 3 times a week MWF. My Total T went up from 650 witch is to low for me to 1135. My Dr. made me wait until I did my 15th. shot of Hcg before doing my next test. My testis went beck up to there nomal size and they are making T again. My E2 also went up and I feel my T levels are still going higher is so what do I do cut back on the T shot or the Hcg.
Phil

 

[Sonny]

My results:

Last labs before addition of HCG:
Test Cyp Amt: 100mg
# days since Test Cyp injection: 2
Total T: 504 (241 - 827)
Free T: 17.8 (9.5 - 43.0)
E2: 17 (10-50)

HCG was added. I was on it for 2 weeks using Swale's protocol and then did another lab test:
Test Cyp Amt: 100mg
# of days since Test Cyp injection: 1
HCG: 250 iu x 2 (the 2 days before the Cyp injection)
Total T: 1249 H (241 - 827)
Free T: >52.0 H (9.5 - 43.0)
E2: 36 (10-50)

Like Phil, I responded very strongly to HCG.

Sonny

 

[pmgamer18]

My results:

Last labs before addition of HCG:
Test Cyp Amt: 100mg
# days since Test Cyp injection: 2
Total T: 504 (241 - 827)
Free T: 17.8 (9.5 - 43.0)
E2: 17 (10-50)

HCG was added. I was on it for 2 weeks using Swale's protocol and then did another lab test:
Test Cyp Amt: 100mg
# of days since Test Cyp injection: 1
HCG: 250 iu x 2 (the 2 days before the Cyp injection)
Total T: 1249 H (241 - 827)
Free T: >52.0 H (9.5 - 43.0)
E2: 36 (10-50)

Like Phil, I responded very strongly to HCG.

Sonny

Sonny I feel like my levels are still going up I did a blood test last week and see my Dr. this Wed. I am doing IndolplexDIM 120 mgs. a day and .5 mgs. of Arimidex every 5 days and the way I feel is I am just barely keeping my E2 down. If my T levels go higher this means my Testis are making even more T and I will need to cut back I am doing 150 mgs of Depo T a week and 500 IU's of Hcg 3 times a week. What do I cut back on the T or the Hcg.
Phil

 

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pm

Cut back on the hcg if you are indeed doing it 500iu 3x weekly. That is alot of hcg. I tried 1000iu per week(about 150iu daily) and my e2 shot through the roof. That is about 500 LESS than what you are doing right now. On 150mg/week of test you really shouldn't need ANY more than 500iu/week. SWALE's protocal is just 250iu 2x weekly so you are 3x that.

 

[pmgamer18]

Yep I think that is the way I will have to go I feel my Dr. put me on that much from reading the insert that came with the Hcg. He read SWALE's treatment using Hcg and this is how I got him to give it to me. I am feeling the best I ever felt in the 21 yrs. on TRT. I hope doing this that much will not make me back slide. Or maybe cut back to 500 IU's the 2 days before my next shot. And try that for 4 weeks.
Phil