HCG damaged by heat?

[Testiclats]

I ordered some HCG, but work during the day and couldn't be around to sign for the package.

I asked a friend with free time to pick the package up from the post office for me.

However, he picked it up and then left it in his hot car (110 degrees F outside) for 4 or 5 hours.

It is freeze-dried HCG. Do you think it is ruined by the heat?

Or can the freeze-dried HCG survive heat like this?

I know once it is mixed with water it is easily damaged by heat, just wondering if I need to order a new batch.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

I ordered some HCG, but work during the day and couldn't be around to sign for the package.

I asked a friend with free time to pick the package up from the post office for me.

However, he picked it up and then left it in his hot car (110 degrees F outside) for 4 or 5 hours.

It is freeze-dried HCG. Do you think it is ruined by the heat?

Or can the freeze-dried HCG survive heat like this?

I know once it is mixed with water it is easily damaged by heat, just wondering if I need to order a new batch.

As long as it was NOT reconstituted, I think it will be okay. The package insert states, "Store dry product at controlled room temperature 15° - 30° C (59° - 86° F)." DailyMed: About DailyMed While this is higher, I still think there should not be a problem. There might be a concern if after reconstitution the appearance is different than typical.

 

[Testiclats]

Ah, I hope you're right.

I questioned him further and he says he was parked in a shaded spot, not in direct sunlight, so hopefully his car didn't become a "solar oven" and heat up too much. I know around here in the hottest part of the summer (which is pretty much right now), a car parked in the sun can get up to 172 degrees F inside

But he says he was parked in the shade and when he got the package out of the car it didn't feel hot to the touch, and the bottles were enclosed in at least an inch of styrofoam which might insulate them a little, so... fingers crossed...

P.S. - In our Arizona summers, if you get a package that was shipped via the US Postal Service, I question whether it's even possible for the package to avoid getting hotter than 86° F at some point in the shipping process... I really don't think the USPS uses refrigerated shipping trucks...

 

[BBC3]

The car is not the worst. Imagine the shit the stuff goes through in shipping. Especially if a long term 3 week type ordeal. I AM CONVINCED, it fades with extended high temps... I have no doubt that I have seen HCG that was overheated too long. If your balls dont blow up like Blueballs on a 2000IU pin, it is probably damaged.

 

[Testiclats]

opcorn:

The car is not the worst. Imagine the shit the stuff goes through in shipping. Especially if a long term 3 week type ordeal. I AM CONVINCED, it fades with extended high temps... I have no doubt that I have seen HCG that was overheated too long. If your balls dont blow up like Blueballs on a 2000IU pin, it is probably damaged.

Haha I dunno if I want to pin 2000IU at once...

I was thinking more like 250IU twice a week, but then again, I'm wanting to do a long cycle of this stuff, not just a short burst. But maybe I should do a big dose like that just to see if the stuff works :drooling:

Actually, last night I pinned my first dose, 500IU into the deltoid. Never done an injection before, it was my first time. I have to say, honestly... I don't see what people are afraid of. I literally couldn't feel the needle going in at all, and I injected the stuff slowly, and couldn't feel the stuff going in. Basically the whole operation involved zero pain and took like 1 minute or less. People who are afraid to inject HCG are ridiculous, it was incredibly easy.

I pinned the stuff in the afternoon, and I gotta say, that night I got the best sleep I have had in years. I don't know if it was a coincidence or what. I also had probably the most vivid sex dream I have had in years. I was banging the brains out of this MILF I know. Man she would turn red if she saw what I was doing to her in this dream. When I woke up that morning I was so hard I thought it was going to break off. Best morning wood I can remember,.

So I think this stuff works...

 

[BBC3]

No, stick to your plan. I was only making a potential example of action. You may have the same response of that dosage with time. I dont know.

Its not necessarily an IM injection you know...? Right in the belly fat yields the same and timewise too basically..

opcorn:

Haha I dunno if I want to pin 2000IU at once...

I was thinking more like 250IU twice a week, but then again, I'm wanting to do a long cycle of this stuff, not just a short burst. But maybe I should do a big dose like that just to see if the stuff works :drooling:

Actually, last night I pinned my first dose, 500IU into the deltoid. Never done an injection before, it was my first time. I have to say, honestly... I don't see what people are afraid of. I literally couldn't feel the needle going in at all, and I injected the stuff slowly, and couldn't feel the stuff going in. Basically the whole operation involved zero pain and took like 1 minute or less. People who are afraid to inject HCG are ridiculous, it was incredibly easy.

I pinned the stuff in the afternoon, and I gotta say, that night I got the best sleep I have had in years. I don't know if it was a coincidence or what. I also had probably the most vivid sex dream I have had in years. I was banging the brains out of this MILF I know. Man she would turn red if she saw what I was doing to her in this dream. When I woke up that morning I was so hard I thought it was going to break off. Best morning wood I can remember,.

So I think this stuff works...

 

[Testiclats]

No, stick to your plan. I was only making a potential example of action. You may have the same response of that dosage with time. I dont know.

Its not necessarily an IM injection you know...? Right in the belly fat yields the same and timewise too basically..

That's cool, but why not just do it IM? I keep hearing that it doesn't need to be IM, that you can do it subQ, but I haven't heard an explanation for WHY you would want to do it subQ instead. Just curious opcorn:

 

[Jay132NY]

I too am worried that my hcg will be damaged by the heat during shipping. It's not that hot here lately, but like somebody said, what about when it's shipped from like India or whatever? Can I store it in the freezer until ready to use and reconstitute, like 2 months max? Also, what's best dose for preventing my balls from shrinking while on cycle? I heard from Longevity center, 250iu every third day for first two weeks of each month. Why only first two weeks?? Lastly, what's good Anastrazole dosage for not heavy, but medium duty cycle of t.prop and deca(or primo), haven't decided yet? Any help appreciated.✌

 

[Jay132NY]

One more question about injecting hcg. What's the best way, I.M. or sub.cu, and why? Thanks.✌

 

[jay89]

IM and subq are equally effective, it just comes down to personal preference.

 

[Gbro]

That's cool, but why not just do it IM? I keep hearing that it doesn't need to be IM, that you can do it subQ, but I haven't heard an explanation for WHY you would want to do it subQ instead. Just curious opcorn:

Going subQ will save some potential scarring in your muscle. Save that for gear that requires IM.

 

[Dr JIM]

As long as it was NOT reconstituted, I think it will be okay. The package insert states, "Store dry product at controlled room temperature 15° - 30° C (59° - 86° F)." DailyMed: About DailyMed While this is higher, I still think there should not be a problem. There might be a concern if after reconstitution the appearance is different than typical.

Based on some of the Amino Acid Assays MANDS and I did reconstituted GH WILL lose its "potency" in a matter of weeks IF not refrigerated!


Yet as mentioned by @Michael Scaly MD a UNRECONSTITUTED product seems to maintain its potency for months if not longer.

To that end if condensation is noted in the vial it's likely some degree of degradation has taken place IMO.

 

[retpsd]

Based on some of the Amino Acid Assays MANDS and I did reconstituted GH WILL lose its "potency" in a matter of weeks IF not refrigerated!
Yet as mentioned by @Michael Scaly MD a UNRECONSTITUTED product seems to maintain its potency for months if not longer.
To that end if condensation is noted in the vial it's likely some degree of degradation has taken place IMO.

Dammit Jim, they're talking HCG.

 

[Jay132NY]

Can anybody answer the question I asked about proper hcg on cycle dosage? Now I read something different, it said 500 iu 3x/week for first week of each month then three weeks off. That sound right?? Also, whats a good Anastrazole dosage for test/deca/primo cycle??