Health issues, not sure what's up?

The initial gains are "fake gains". It's just water. Whatever true gains were gained will linger and stay with appropriate.


The gains you will lose are ones you didn't earn. It's from the glycogen retention from the cycle.

Just don't be delusional. That's like saying I'm gonna stick to wet compounds because those bring in the best gains.
Good to hear, is 300 test per week low enough for TRT in your opinion? Test Prop M/W/F
 
Btw -- Doc thinks it's prostitis, gave me a leg muscle injection, antibiotic and a script for my prostate. Told me chill on the tren, and get blood pressure followed up with this week. Heart looks good on the EKG and chest x ray. Chest pain is just high blood pressure I guess? I'm not anxious at all so not sure why I'm having angina like symptoms.
 
Yup, hard pill to swallow but agreed that it's for the best.
A hard physique doesn't look as good in a hospital bed or worse.. a box.

Keep working hard but get your blood markers back in range.. and before you know it, you'll be ready to go again.

Health should always come first IMHO.
 
I'll plan on rocking 150-200MG test per week.
I read that some people add 80-100 Deca to their TRT, could I drop my Deca down to 100 or should I just forget about it for a few months?

I forgot to mention I'm on HGH as well... Only 2 IU for the past couple of months, was on anywhere from 4-8 IU for roughly a year. Do I need to get off of that as well?
Rather not play with my health if the HGH is damaging as well.
 
I'll plan on rocking 150-200MG test per week.
I read that some people add 80-100 Deca to their TRT, could I drop my Deca down to 100 or should I just forget about it for a few months?

I forgot to mention I'm on HGH as well... Only 2 IU for the past couple of months, was on anywhere from 4-8 IU for roughly a year. Do I need to get off of that as well?
Rather not play with my health if the HGH is damaging as well.
My man. I just read the whole thread.

I would forget about "rocking" any test. My advice is to come off everything.

I'd drop a whole check on bloodwork, if you haven't already. CBC, metabolic profile, complete hormone(inculding PSA and prolactin). Get kidney scan as well. I'd order CK test too, chronic muscle soreness and dark urine could indicate rhabdomylosis. Also a prostate exam.

Your post points to your level concern, but your lax speach tells another story...it's quite telling actually...coupled with the fact that you're still on 4-5 different compounds despite these recent issues. Your body is sounding an alarm...listen to it or don't listen to it the choice is yours, as are the consequences.

If I were you, I wouldn't put a single thing into my body except for water and whole foods until I knew exactly what's going on.

Best of luck brother.
 
Last edited:
My man. I just read the whole thread.

I would forget about "rocking" any test. My advice is to come off everything.

I'd drop a whole check on bloodwork, if you haven't already. CBC, metabolic profile, complete hormone(inculding PSA and prolactin). Get kidney scan as well. I'd order CK test too, chronic muscle soreness and dark urine could indicate rhabdomylosis. Also a prostate exam.

Your post points to your level concern, but your lax speach tells another story...it's quite telling actually...coupled with the fact that you're still on 4-5 different compounds despite these recent issues. Your body is sounding an alarm...listen to it or don't listen to it the choice is yours, as are the consequences.

If I were you, I wouldn't put a single thing into my body except for water and whole foods until I knew exactly what's going on.

Best of luck brother.
I said I went to the doctor; my liver, kidney, and heart functions are all fine. I also said I got prescribed medication for my prostate, so why would I need another prostate exam? I don't think it's great advice to tell me to come off Testosterone Replacement Therapy and to encourage someone to let their hormones crash without PCT. To clarify again, they checked everything when I was at the hospital, as I said in the thread...

p.s. I'm still adamant that you're a cop.
 
I'll plan on rocking 150-200MG test per week.
I read that some people add 80-100 Deca to their TRT, could I drop my Deca down to 100 or should I just forget about it for a few months?

I forgot to mention I'm on HGH as well... Only 2 IU for the past couple of months, was on anywhere from 4-8 IU for roughly a year. Do I need to get off of that as well?
Rather not play with my health if the HGH is damaging as well.

You are having prostatitis. Your doctor doesn't seemed concerned that a 30 year old would be having this?

Get off everything but test at a trt level.


I'm starting to think you are trolling us tbh.
 
You are having prostatitis. Your doctor doesn't seemed concerned that a 30 year old would be having this?

Get off everything but test at a trt level.


I'm starting to think you are trolling us tbh.
Concerned but not shocked, he knows all the gear I'm on. Not as concerned after the urine analysis, blood, EKG and cardiogram came back looking good.

Nah, I'm not trolling lol. I'll listen to your advice and do straight test... Was jw about the low dose Deca and low dose HGH at TRT levels but after more thought its just not worth it. 100% staying on test though, don't feel like crashing out.

I'm prescribed 300mg weekly for test, but I'm doing 150 as you advised for the next 120 days.
 
I said I went to the doctor; my liver, kidney, and heart functions are all fine. I also said I got prescribed medication for my prostate, so why would I need another prostate exam? I don't think it's great advice to tell me to come off Testosterone Replacement Therapy and to encourage someone to let their hormones crash without PCT. To clarify again, they checked everything when I was at the hospital, as I said in the thread...

p.s. I'm still adamant that you're a cop.
-Doc "thinks it's prositis"

-My "chest pain is probably from HBP I guess"

I understand you think you're g2g because you were checked at the hospital. But theres too much "guessing" and "thinking" going on. I mean...the title of your thread is quite literally "Health issues, not sure what's up?" Lmao. What I was suggesting...in my original comment...is that you take matters into your hands- as doc will only give so many fucks about your health, and will only order so many labs.

Not exactly telling you to do anything, just explaining what I would do if I were in your shoes. If my body is out of whack, first thing I would do (standard common sense) is remove everything and anything that's not supposed to be in it, i.e; exogenous hormones suspended in genetically-modified highly processed seed oils, amongst other things. Not the end of the world coming off for a couple months to let your body reset.

All from a place of love man.

P.s. Cops juice too brother ;)
E7qAjXAX0AAmjHw.jpg
 
-Doc "thinks it's prositis"

-My "chest pain is probably from HBP I guess"

I understand you think you're g2g because you were checked at the hospital. But theres too much "guessing" and "thinking" going on. I mean...the title of your thread is quite literally "Health issues, not sure what's up?" Lmao. What I was suggesting...in my original comment...is that you take matters into your hands- as doc will only give so many fucks about your health, and will only order so many labs.

Not exactly telling you to do anything, just explaining what I would do if I were in your shoes. If my body is out of whack, first thing I would do (standard common sense) is remove everything and anything that's not supposed to be in it, i.e; exogenous hormones suspended in genetically-modified highly processed seed oils, amongst other things. Not the end of the world coming off for a couple months to let your body reset.

All from a place of love man.

P.s. Cops juice too brother ;)
View attachment 250581
Nah, I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to give me advice. Just felt like you were throwing shade at first cause of the 3-4 dislike notifications I got, and figured you were upset at me about my comments on your first post that I thought was a little sus.
I didn't mean to come off as a dick to you when you're just looking out for me man, I'm sorry!

Edit: btw, the chest pains were definitely from high blood pressure... Haven't had them now since I started taking propanolol 10mg 4x a day.
My penis and gooch have still been hurting, I'm hoping this 28 day antibiotic treatment takes care of it, either from smashing too many random tinder chicks or it's prostitis, which my doctor thinks.
I have an appointment today for a blood pressure consult. My AST and ALT did actually come back extremely elevated, everything else is in range... Waiting to talk to the doc on the best way to get my liver enzymes back in check, I'm guessing that's the reason I've been feeling so shitty. Dropped everything but the test, and taking 1/2 of what I'm prescribed for the dosage.
 
Last edited:
Nah, I appreciate you taking the time out of your day to give me advice. Just felt like you were throwing shade at first cause of the 3-4 dislike notifications I got, and figured you were upset at me about my comments on your first post that I thought was a little sus.
I didn't mean to come off as a dick to you when you're just looking out for me man, I'm sorry!

Edit: btw, the chest pains were definitely from high blood pressure... Haven't had them now since I started taking propanolol 10mg 4x a day.
My penis and gooch have still been hurting, I'm hoping this 28 day antibiotic treatment takes care of it, either from smashing too many random tinder chicks or it's prostitis, which my doctor thinks.
I have an appointment today for a blood pressure consult. My AST and ALT did actually come back extremely elevated, everything else is in range... Waiting to talk to the doc on the best way to get my liver enzymes back in check, I'm guessing that's the reason I've been feeling so shitty. Dropped everything but the test, and taking 1/2 of what I'm prescribed for the dosage.
Isn't that test a BS prescription?. Nobody prescribes prop unless asked for it
 
Isn't that test a BS prescription?. Nobody prescribes prop unless asked for it
I just meant that it's through a legal TRT clinic. I guess it could be considered a little BS, that's the most they're able to prescribe without raising red flags. I did request prop specifically, got to 8-9% BF and a couple people advised me that I'd see even better results with prop for cutting weight. I haven't touched a vial of the prop yet though, was planning to finish off my test E from Stan first.
 
Stick with test E/C. That trt clinic will probably give you whatever you want and not give 2 shits about your health


Drop the dose to 150-160 if you do test e/c
 
Stick with test E/C. That trt clinic will probably give you whatever you want and not give 2 shits about your health


Drop the dose to 150-160 if you do test e/c
I def agree with that, I'm sure they don't want to see me croak but I understand that it's all about profit for these companies.

What's the reason to stay with E/C and not prop? Haha, I'd hate to chuck 3 unopened vials of pharma test that I just got in the mail.
 
I def agree with that, I'm sure they don't want to see me croak but I understand that it's all about profit for these companies.

What's the reason to stay with E/C and not prop? Haha, I'd hate to chuck 3 unopened vials of pharma test that I just got in the mail.
It's more convenient IMO truly more stable levels. You can stick to prop that's fine, but if it's for weight loss I think it's a little dumb.
 
Back
Top