heaviest cycle yet..

[zer0]

22yrs
89kg
11%bf
5.7 tall
placed in 2 shows..1st and 3rd
4th cycle..

gear:
week 1-6: 50mg dbol ed
week 1-15: sus250 1000mg/week
week 1-15: deca250 600mg/week
week 6-15: tren enenthate 300mg/week

insulin: 1iu for every 10g of carbs

AI: l-dex 0.5mg ed

will get gh if i can.. no luck so far..

pct will be hcg and nolva..

hows that look ?

 

[Alex MT]

you should do it like this

1-15 Test e 1000MG ew
1-10 tren e 400 MG ew
1-15 boldenone 600 MG ew
1-5 dianabol 60 mg ed

1-30 6 iun hgh 5 time a week


and let me know what gain you will have

btw it's my brother cycle and he just start it

 

[jackhammer]

i like this one too. if youre going to compete at the end of the cycle id do
1-5 dbol 60mg ed
1-10 deca 600mg wk
1-13 eq 600mg wk
1-12 test e 1g wk
13-15 test p 300 wk. mast 300 wk. trenA 300 wk
maybe even add some var, win or halo last few weeks. and primo is good too all the way til show.

 

[zer0]

at this stage im just working with what i can access..if i can get those other meds mentioned i will for sure..

iv never tried test e .. iv seen ppl on it and they all looked fat lol mainly due to poor diet..iv used cyp but really didnt like it..didnt do much besides water retention..strength didnt change much either..
maybe i had fake stuff..

i was told by an ex pro it doesnt matter what test you use..as long as you have a good ai protocol..he said letro is the best but need 2 be consistant with dosage..and it takes weeks to build up..i was told he would take 16ml of sus/week lol thats 4000mg/week.. lmao . dont muck about !! he was big tho..was also told that the big boys or pros pretty much have a rule of thumb with meds..1g test/week, 10iu gh/day, 10iu slin/day....its the slin and gh that turn you into a monster..most of them dont take as much orals as ppl think either and most of them have prescriptions..anyway ill shut up now..

 

[Reinheart]

at this stage im just working with what i can access..if i can get those other meds mentioned i will for sure..

iv never tried test e .. iv seen ppl on it and they all looked fat lol mainly due to poor diet..iv used cyp but really didnt like it..didnt do much besides water retention..strength didnt change much either..
maybe i had fake stuff..

i was told by an ex pro it doesnt matter what test you use..as long as you have a good ai protocol..he said letro is the best but need 2 be consistant with dosage..and it takes weeks to build up..i was told he would take 16ml of sus/week lol thats 4000mg/week.. lmao . dont muck about !! he was big tho..was also told that the big boys or pros pretty much have a rule of thumb with meds..1g test/week, 10iu gh/day, 10iu slin/day....its the slin and gh that turn you into a monster..most of them dont take as much orals as ppl think either and most of them have prescriptions..anyway ill shut up now..

No, please! You are giving us some great information!

 

[zer0]

hahah ok well i have connections with a few top bodybuilders and they all do / did the same kind of thing..nothing like what you read on the net. they are all usually very smart people and usually very healthy...yes these guys all take in large amounts of test.. 1g+/week as standard like i said..the orals are just a kick..a pump up..for fun..they dont rely on a pill..cause they no the science behind it..orals fuck your organs..they rely on food and insulin*..obviously your going to need an anabolic like tren but they definatly dont take huge amounts of anabolics cause they like having 2 kidneys..its the rule of thumb that i mentioned, which separates them from amateur bodybuilding... its like there is a brick wall between amateur bb and pro bb..yes a lot of its genetics but from what iv seen the world of amateur bodybuilding has been brain washed that you need 2 take buckets of orals and diuretics .. those are the 2 things that will kill you in this sport...thats just my opinion..

 

[Reinheart]

hahah ok well i have connections with a few top bodybuilders and they all do / did the same kind of thing..nothing like what you read on the net. they are all usually very smart people and usually very healthy...yes these guys all take in large amounts of test.. 1g+/week as standard like i said..the orals are just a kick..a pump up..for fun..they dont rely on a pill..cause they no the science behind it..orals fuck your organs..they rely on food and insulin*..obviously your going to need an anabolic like tren but they definatly dont take huge amounts of anabolics cause they like having 2 kidneys..its the rule of thumb that i mentioned, which separates them from amateur bodybuilding... its like there is a brick wall between amateur bb and pro bb..yes a lot of its genetics but from what iv seen the world of amateur bodybuilding has been brain washed that you need 2 take buckets of orals and diuretics .. those are the 2 things that will kill you in this sport...thats just my opinion..

All this is great information. Thank you. In general lines, i knew that they rely on very high doses of test, hgh and insulin but i also knew that many of them abuse oral steroids (like 200mgs Anadrol or 300mgs Dianabol).

 

[spiralkut]

pretty ironic they dont take orals cause of the kidney / liver thing yet they take HGH which over time will make your heart explode

 

[SpaceCowboy]

Sorry I'm a newb but how do you know if your taking too much insulin? I would be extremely careful. Is it possible to build that bodybuilding physique without insulin at all?

 

[zer0]

Sorry I'm a newb but how do you know if your taking too much insulin? I would be extremely careful. Is it possible to build that bodybuilding physique without insulin at all?

ahh lol yeah if your taking 2 much you will feel very light headed and no energy, sluring of words..very important to monitor how much you take and correct carb intake..everyone responds diff to insulin..trial and error.. but sometime trial can be lethal if you got no idea..if your going to take insulin you need fast carbs(sugar) on hand at all times incase you have a low...dont ever give someone insulin if they dont kno about it..

 

[zer0]

pretty ironic they dont take orals cause of the kidney / liver thing yet they take HGH which over time will make your heart explode

any studies to back this up ? i would expect slight organ growth but not sure about the exploding part?

 

[zer0]

All this is great information. Thank you. In general lines, i knew that they rely on very high doses of test, hgh and insulin but i also knew that many of them abuse oral steroids (like 200mgs Anadrol or 300mgs Dianabol).

im sure lots do.. but for short cycles..

 

[zer0]

day 5

93kg..gained 3 kg..fluide lol but i still have abs..

added 100mcg of ghrp-6 per day..very suprised ..massive appitite increase..

im eating 8 meals a day..very clean all low gi carbs lean protein hi fibre..

first time using dbol and holly crap..feel like im going to have a heart attack at the gym..pump is almost 2 much..feel like i have high bp already..so i started cardio today..leg pump was ridiculus so didnt even make half hour..ppl r already pointing the finger ast me..should i maybe take nolva also ?

 

[Get Some]

pretty ironic they dont take orals cause of the kidney / liver thing yet they take HGH which over time will make your heart explode

Please link me to the article, thanks.

 

[Get Some]

have you used dbol before? It can give some people high blood pressure, but my guess is that tren is probably the real culprit here. Tren can be nasty stuff, but can also be magical. I wish I would have seen this sooner because I would have advised against the use of tren and deca in the same cycle. Both of those are very suppressive on their own and when put in the same cycle can completely shut down your HPTA long term. Not only that, the progesterone related side effects that can stem from running both of those at the same time can be horrible. Hopefully you have access to some cabergoline or pramipexole in case you experience progesterone-gyno. This type of gyno cannot be fixed with an aromatase inhibitor, as it is not caused by estrogen.

Keep updating...

day 5

93kg..gained 3 kg..fluide lol but i still have abs..

added 100mcg of ghrp-6 per day..very suprised ..massive appitite increase..

im eating 8 meals a day..very clean all low gi carbs lean protein hi fibre..

first time using dbol and holly crap..feel like im going to have a heart attack at the gym..pump is almost 2 much..feel like i have high bp already..so i started cardio today..leg pump was ridiculus so didnt even make half hour..ppl r already pointing the finger ast me..should i maybe take nolva also ?

 

[HDH]

Good to see ya Get Some

This is my first time reading this thread too. I was waiting for someone to say it. I know Reinheart is definitely against it so it was probably misread.

Be prepared for the sides of a Deca/Tren mix. Especially with such a high total dose. It's not to late though. Here some info to help you out-

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You are pretty well informed so far. Stick around and learn some more.

HDH