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Received igf1-lr3 kit “growtropin”. Payment was sent early July. This order was supposed to be expedited but apparently the currier was having issues— around a 38 day TD. Communication was excellent throughout. I was waiting on a domestic reship when the original pack popped up in my area. Most of this was wait was “on its way to facility” bullshit. Dhl tracking fucking sucks and is vague at best if it actually works at all. Packaging was the best I’ve ever seen.

While I hope this is a simple back up with the package currier I am concerned about a “robbing Peter to pay Paul” or double dealing approach to business. “Label created” or “on its way to facility” for weeks is a red flag for this kinda shit. Then more time is bought with “ the reship” then more time with “original is moving” etc etc etc. hopefully I’m just being paranoid and my first order just moved extremely slow. Hopefully we don’t start to see a pattern emerge.

At this point I would reorder as long as the lr3 seems as good as TPs— hunger, pumps,
leanness etc. I will most likely blast some tonight after I workout and I’ll let you guys know what I think.
Your concern is not valid since yours was the only one that had anywhere near that bad of an issue although i can see what you were saying if it was widesparead but since then we have not had that problem again with tracking
 
A friend of mine who is a pro gave me this to use for Increlex.



UNOFFICIAL IGF-1 INSTRUCTIONS



(1) Storage of IGF-1 (prior to mixing)

Lyophilized (dry) IGF-1 is stable at room temperature for 3 weeks; however, it should be stored below -18 degrees Celsius (in the freezer section).


(2) Weight of IGF-1

1 milligram (mg) IGF-1 = 1000 micrograms (mcg) IGF-1

[Dry weight—before mixing]


(3) What to Mix the IGF-1 with

When reconstituting (adding water), It is important to remember that IGF-1 can get “stuck” in the grooves of the glass bottle it comes packaged in. While glass appears smooth to the naked eye, under a microscope, it is a convoluted landscape of grooves and hidden recesses.

By mixing the lyophilized IGF-1 with an “acid water” (e.g. 10mM HCL-- very dilute hydrochloric acid or dilute acetic acid), the IGF-1 molecules are efficiently detached from the glass and solubilized in the mixture. Any online “compounding” laboratory could mix up a 10mM HCL solution. Likewise, any intro chemistry student should be able to do the same.

If a reliable source of “acid water” cannot be located, mix your IGF-1 powder with bacteriostatic water—you’ll lose, at worst, 10% of the IGF-1 solution.


(4) Adding the Acid Water

For purposes of mathematical ease, I suggest mixing the dry 1mg (1000mcg) IGF-1 with 3mL (or 3cc) of the “acid water” mixture.


(5) Preservation of the IGF-1

Using a 1cc insulin syringe, draw 1cc out of the bottle that contains 3cc of the acid water/IGF-1 mixture. In a separate 1cc insulin syringe, draw up another 1cc of the solution. Freeze these two loaded insulin syringes. They will be utilized at a later date.

NOTE: Freezing can safely and effectively preserve IGF-1 (even after it’s been mixed).


(6) The Correct Dilution

To the remaining 1cc of IGF-1 that’s left in the glass bottle, add 2cc of bacteriostatic water. This will return the total volume back up to 3cc.


(7) The Mathematics

(a) The original concentration of the IGF-1 solution was 1mg (1000mcg) IGF-1 in 3cc of water.

(b) Each 1cc that we removed, then, contained approximately 333mcg per 1cc.

1000mcg / 3cc = 333mcg per 1cc

(c) The 1cc that was left in the bottle, then, also contains 333mcg of IGF-1.

(d) We added 2cc of bacteriostatic water to the bottle and brought the total volume back up to 3cc. The difference, now, is that we now have 333mcg in 3cc of liquid (instead of in 1cc)


(e) To determine how much IGF-1 is in 1cc, you must divide by 3

333mcg / 3cc = 111mcg per 1cc


(f) To determine how much IGF-1 is in .10cc (or 1/10th cc), we do the following:

111mcg / 10 = 11mcg per .10cc (or 10 unit marking on insulin syringe)


(8) Effective Dosages of IGF-1

Dosages in the range of 10-20mcg per day (taken 15-20 minutes after training) are quite effective for building and repairing muscle tissue. More importantly, these “moderate” dosages (by some people’s estimation) stimulate muscle growth yet escape rapid “downregulation” of the all important IGF-1 receptors. Without receptors to recognize the IGF-1, it doesn’t matter how much you inject.

As dosages climb to over 50mcg per day, receptor downgrade increases exponentially and, from what I’ve observed among bodybuilders, muscle gains come to a screeching halt.

Bodybuilders will have the most success with IGF-1 if they follow the protocol I outlined below. Remember, more isn’t always better!





IGF-1 PROTOCOL

DOSAGE TOTALS

11mcg per day for 30 days (Cycle 1)


333mcg

2 weeks OFF


0

11mcg per day for 30 days (Cycle 2)**


333mcg

2 weeks OFF


0

11mcg per day for 30 days (Cycle 3)**


333mcg

8 weeks OFF


0

Total # Weeks: 24

Total IGF-1: 1000mcg (1mg)


**The 2nd and 3rd cycles of IGF-1 treatment require that the two frozen 1cc insulin syringes be defrosted (only defrost one per cycle). Next, inject the defrosted solution into an empty bottle. Further dilute with 2cc bacteriostatic water. When adding the 2cc of water, use the syringe that originally held the frozen IGF-1. This acts to wash the syringe and ensure that nothing has stuck to the inside of it.
 
There's not much testing at all, I was going to get both. But this will let us know very fast if it's gh. Otherwise I'm injecting myself with _____ for 6 weeks blindly.

If it was pharma, blacks, or greys, I'd just get igf
Well im pretty sure the hplc test from Jano established it was HGH but i still would like to see serum numbers
 
A friend of mine who is a pro gave me this to use for Increlex.



UNOFFICIAL IGF-1 INSTRUCTIONS



(1) Storage of IGF-1 (prior to mixing)

Lyophilized (dry) IGF-1 is stable at room temperature for 3 weeks; however, it should be stored below -18 degrees Celsius (in the freezer section).


(2) Weight of IGF-1

1 milligram (mg) IGF-1 = 1000 micrograms (mcg) IGF-1

[Dry weight—before mixing]


(3) What to Mix the IGF-1 with

When reconstituting (adding water), It is important to remember that IGF-1 can get “stuck” in the grooves of the glass bottle it comes packaged in. While glass appears smooth to the naked eye, under a microscope, it is a convoluted landscape of grooves and hidden recesses.

By mixing the lyophilized IGF-1 with an “acid water” (e.g. 10mM HCL-- very dilute hydrochloric acid or dilute acetic acid), the IGF-1 molecules are efficiently detached from the glass and solubilized in the mixture. Any online “compounding” laboratory could mix up a 10mM HCL solution. Likewise, any intro chemistry student should be able to do the same.

If a reliable source of “acid water” cannot be located, mix your IGF-1 powder with bacteriostatic water—you’ll lose, at worst, 10% of the IGF-1 solution.


(4) Adding the Acid Water

For purposes of mathematical ease, I suggest mixing the dry 1mg (1000mcg) IGF-1 with 3mL (or 3cc) of the “acid water” mixture.


(5) Preservation of the IGF-1

Using a 1cc insulin syringe, draw 1cc out of the bottle that contains 3cc of the acid water/IGF-1 mixture. In a separate 1cc insulin syringe, draw up another 1cc of the solution. Freeze these two loaded insulin syringes. They will be utilized at a later date.

NOTE: Freezing can safely and effectively preserve IGF-1 (even after it’s been mixed).


(6) The Correct Dilution

To the remaining 1cc of IGF-1 that’s left in the glass bottle, add 2cc of bacteriostatic water. This will return the total volume back up to 3cc.


(7) The Mathematics

(a) The original concentration of the IGF-1 solution was 1mg (1000mcg) IGF-1 in 3cc of water.

(b) Each 1cc that we removed, then, contained approximately 333mcg per 1cc.

1000mcg / 3cc = 333mcg per 1cc

(c) The 1cc that was left in the bottle, then, also contains 333mcg of IGF-1.

(d) We added 2cc of bacteriostatic water to the bottle and brought the total volume back up to 3cc. The difference, now, is that we now have 333mcg in 3cc of liquid (instead of in 1cc)


(e) To determine how much IGF-1 is in 1cc, you must divide by 3

333mcg / 3cc = 111mcg per 1cc


(f) To determine how much IGF-1 is in .10cc (or 1/10th cc), we do the following:

111mcg / 10 = 11mcg per .10cc (or 10 unit marking on insulin syringe)


(8) Effective Dosages of IGF-1

Dosages in the range of 10-20mcg per day (taken 15-20 minutes after training) are quite effective for building and repairing muscle tissue. More importantly, these “moderate” dosages (by some people’s estimation) stimulate muscle growth yet escape rapid “downregulation” of the all important IGF-1 receptors. Without receptors to recognize the IGF-1, it doesn’t matter how much you inject.

As dosages climb to over 50mcg per day, receptor downgrade increases exponentially and, from what I’ve observed among bodybuilders, muscle gains come to a screeching halt.

Bodybuilders will have the most success with IGF-1 if they follow the protocol I outlined below. Remember, more isn’t always better!





IGF-1 PROTOCOL

DOSAGE TOTALS

11mcg per day for 30 days (Cycle 1)


333mcg

2 weeks OFF


0

11mcg per day for 30 days (Cycle 2)**


333mcg

2 weeks OFF


0

11mcg per day for 30 days (Cycle 3)**


333mcg

8 weeks OFF


0

Total # Weeks: 24

Total IGF-1: 1000mcg (1mg)


**The 2nd and 3rd cycles of IGF-1 treatment require that the two frozen 1cc insulin syringes be defrosted (only defrost one per cycle). Next, inject the defrosted solution into an empty bottle. Further dilute with 2cc bacteriostatic water. When adding the 2cc of water, use the syringe that originally held the frozen IGF-1. This acts to wash the syringe and ensure that nothing has stuck to the inside of it.
This is not for Increlex
 
Well im pretty sure the hplc test from Jano established it was HGH but i still would like to see serum numbers

Both it is. Unfortunately the service I use due to the state I am in sends it out to LabCorp and is basically a middle man for these 2 test. So it might take more than 24 hours to get back the serum results. But I'll do that, then get the IGF score.

Getting baseline in the next two weeks.
 
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