Help formulating mass monster cycle

[brutalbuilt]

" Many peoples prefer HGH over MK-677, so I'll follow them "

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MK-677 is actually much stronger than you think, with it and CJC, my IGF-1 was in the 700-800s, and doesn't even cost half the price of HGH.

name 1 benefit mk677 has over real hgh... ill wait

with mk677 you have no idea how much iu of gh your body will produce but with real hgh your injecting the exact amount you will get

and igf-1 test is useless it only detects serum levels not whats actually working in the muscle

 

[brutalbuilt]

If used well, MK-677 can be the kind of drug that makes you growing day by day, it's very strong, but it has a bad reputation because it has many sides.

only tiktok sarms goblin kids take mk677 and they all small

 

[DugPrime]

name 1 benefit mk677 has over real hgh... ill wait

It made my IGF-1 into the 700s for less than 10% of what it would’ve costed for HGH, and it’s really strong. I loved bulking with it.

 

[malfeasance]

I started at 175lbs 18% bf . . . and now I’m 175lbs 10% bf

Pics or it didn't happen.

 

[brutalbuilt]

It made my IGF-1 into the 700s for less than 10% of what it would’ve costed for HGH, and it’s really strong. I loved bulking with it.

igf test doesnt mean shit and mk677 is more expensive than generics

generics are cheap as fuck these days

 

[mrsloppyboo]

Pics or it didn't happen.

I’d like to stay anonymous when I’m asking dumb shit online lol, but I feel like this transformation in a first year on gear isn’t outrageous or anything

 

[Nidus]

How in the hell can your A1C drop down to normal in 2 days when it’s basically a 3 month rolling average of glucose levels…?

Guess he meant Fasted glucose or so.
Either way Hba1c would take some time to recover, same for the Homa Index.
Seen enough bloodwork of people running MK for a months and both values went to shit like crazy.

name 1 benefit mk677 has over real hgh... ill wait

with mk677 you have no idea how much iu of gh your body will produce but with real hgh your injecting the exact amount you will get

and igf-1 test is useless it only detects serum levels not whats actually working in the muscle

I believe even when chasing a high IGF1, the high hba1c and insulin resistance caused by it will slow down and make the IGF1 less effective given that your body literally becomes resistant.
I'd rather run 3-4iu of GH consistent, do the fasted cardio and if needed use Jardiance and a tiny sprinkle of Metformin.

 

[brutalbuilt]

Guess he meant Fasted glucose or so.
Either way Hba1c would take some time to recover, same for the Homa Index.
Seen enough bloodwork of people running MK for a months and both values went to shit like crazy.


I believe even when chasing a high IGF1, the high hba1c and insulin resistance caused by it will slow down and make the IGF1 less effective given that your body literally becomes resistant.
I'd rather run 3-4iu of GH consistent, do the fasted cardio and if needed use Jardiance and a tiny sprinkle of Metformin.

another reason why hgh is better... you can take a fuck ton of gh before bed and most peoples blood sugar will be fine during the day

 

[lukiss96]

Have you ever seen 10 lbs of raw steak sitting on a table? It's more than most people think.

Depends. It is believed that guys at or over 6' tall have to put on so much more pounds to get that kinda effect. So 10 pounds of muscles distributed on someone that tall is not that much at the end of the day. Let alone taller individuals than that.

 

[DugPrime]

igf test doesnt mean shit

Said who? You? You sound like you doesn't know a lot about these drugs.

 

[dinfar1337]

Pics or it didn't happen.

fr the steriods help retaining muscle mass in a cut they dont help build mental fortitude for a cut

 

[Nidus]

Said who? You? You sound like you doesn't know a lot about these drugs.

People could say the same about you and your suggestion to a new member who is young, lacks experience and clearly the knowledge for telling him to run this kind of cycle which is dangerous as hell:

You must have a perfect diet, with no more than 2-3g of sodium a day.

- 25mg of MK-677 twice a day (50mg a day)

- 0.55mg of CJC-1295 with DAC (3.85mg a week)

- 10-30iu of Lantus a day (it's more about having a perfect fasted BG during the whole cycle, I don't care about insulin resistance as I'll follow with a cut on tirzepatide.)

- 10-15iu of Humalog a day (divided in two doses, pre and post workout)

- 250mg of Test E a day (1.75g a week)

- 50-150mg of Spironolactone twice a day (reduce extreme bloat from MK-677, you'll feel better, it's worth it.)

With that cycle, you must be able to build a very big amount of lean mass, strength, and it comes with a great cosmetic aspect (veins, fullness) and if your diet is on point, with spironolactone you'll maintain abs very easily, and this day long.

 

[dinfar1337]

Guess he meant Fasted glucose or so.
Either way Hba1c would take some time to recover, same for the Homa Index.
Seen enough bloodwork of people running MK for a months and both values went to shit like crazy.


I believe even when chasing a high IGF1, the high hba1c and insulin resistance caused by it will slow down and make the IGF1 less effective given that your body literally becomes resistant.
I'd rather run 3-4iu of GH consistent, do the fasted cardio and if needed use Jardiance and a tiny sprinkle of Metformin.

also i would rather just run hgh because its approved for humans and actually used in clinical settings and have many studies. we already know what it does to the body. also every fucking bodybuilder thats made it to the big scenes in the last 10 years are running hgh we know it fucking works.

 

[Nidus]

also i would rather just run hgh because its approved for humans and actually used in clinical settings and have many studies. we already know what it does to the body

I've always been puzzled by the urge some people have to shake things up unnecessarily. It seems to me that the old adage 'never change a running system' holds a lot of truth.
It's much safer to stick with methods that have been thoroughly tested, backed by solid scientific evidence, and whose effects are well understood. That way, you stay in control, avoid unexpected complications, and know exactly what to expect and how to handle it, imagine noticing mid-cycle that you developed such high insulin resistance that your body cannot grow or work properly? Whats the point of that?

 

[DugPrime]

People could say the same about you and your suggestion to a new member who is young, lacks experience and clearly the knowledge for telling him to run this kind of cycle which is dangerous as hell:

I'm supposed to know the guy now hahaha??

I replied to his " Help formulating mass monster cycle ", I'm not his dad or his personal coach. Of course he have to learn, readjust the dosages, ancillaries, etc.. I was only sharing my cycle, making you growing muscles overnight if training, diet and trainings are all on point, of course.

 

[DugPrime]

also i would rather just run hgh because its approved for humans and actually used in clinical settings and have many studies. we already know what it does to the body. also every fucking bodybuilder thats made it to the big scenes in the last 10 years are running hgh we know it fucking works.

HGH and MK-677 are not the same and shouldn’t be directly compared. HGH is much cleaner in its effects, and I really like it. However, I prefer MK-677 because I’ve found it to be more effective for muscle gains, probably due to its continuous GH secretion (leading to chronically elevated IGF-1 levels) and its strong effect on hunger.

I'm not using it all the time, two cycles ago I was on 4-5iu of HGH twice a day, it's a game changer too.

 

[malfeasance]

Depends. It is believed that guys at or over 6' tall have to put on so much more pounds to get that kinda effect. So 10 pounds of muscles distributed on someone that tall is not that much at the end of the day. Let alone taller individuals than that.

Your entire point is debatable if it is ten pounds of actual lean tissue, but nevertheless the OP is 5'8" and claims to be 10% body fat (although he will not post pics). 10 pounds of lean tissue would be very noticeable if those stats are true. The before and after would be significantly different.

 

[malfeasance]

Stats are 175lbs 10% bf 5’8. My entire life is centered around bodybuilding. Diet and training are dialed in.

A bulk and cut that ends at 10% at 185 pounds would be a big difference from 175. It is literally about 6% more muscle after than before. That is a huge difference.

lukiss96, taking your point to its logical conclusion, you just need to do the same math. Add 6% to your muscle (not bodyweight, lol). All this means is that if you are at 10% at 210 and do not look huge because you are 6'5" or whatever, then you need to be 10% at 223 pounds to get the same visual difference. It's not that much more than 10 pounds (12-13 pounds).

Arguably, though, 210 at 6'5" is smaller than 175 pounds at 5'8". A dude that tall would need to be more like 235-240 to duplicate the OP's look at 175 pounds, so 235 x .06 = 14, so more like 14 pounds to make the same approximate before and after visual difference in appearance to the taller dude's physique.

 

[malfeasance]

I’d like to stay anonymous when I’m asking dumb shit online lol, but I feel like this transformation in a first year on gear isn’t outrageous or anything

You do not know how to post physique pics displaying your 10% body fat level without revealing your date of birth and social security number to all of us?

 

[lukiss96]

Your entire point is debatable if it is ten pounds of actual lean tissue, but nevertheless the OP is 5'8" and claims to be 10% body fat (although he will not post pics). 10 pounds of lean tissue would be very noticeable if those stats are true. The before and after would be significantly different.

Ddbate what? Of course on someone who's 5'8 it's gonna look a lot more. 6' and over we talk at least about 15lbs to get the same effect as the shorter guy.