About two weeks.
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Help me maximize gel absorption!!! Thnks
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About two weeks.
MOB has a point, but really I would think that to go back thirty minutes post application with some alcohol and rub the same area would be more effective. To apply a pre-rub that would be effective, would be to apply something that would dialate or open up circulation in the skin. Keep in mind that whatever goes straight into blood and does not lodge in the skin is nothing more that a potential estrogen fest from an overdose that will be immediately metabolized out of the body if not uptaked by receptors. So the trick is making the DEPOT in the skin. NOT necessarily "absorbing it", but getting it to stay put. And skin is only so thick, so the issue is that there is just only so much you can get in there. HANs point to rotate is good, but also to spread over as large an area as possible.. Watchout for the kiddies, nephew, and others.. Keep in mind that alcohol is going to have a CATCH-22 effect as it dries out the skin at the same time. Perhaps apply a good lotion every day two hours after gel application to replentish.
Personally, I would think that perhaps GLYCERIN could be a tool here. This dialates vessels ( I think). I am pretty sure those little laxitive ass supositories are mostly glycerin. So actually for you Pre and Post rub down, have a concoction of alcohol and glycerin prepared. I would not doubt if glycerin is not already in the gels. I really never looked that close in past reads. But I would think you would need another vehicle in the post rub to keep from just wiping the remaining testosterone right off with plain alcohol. I still suspect its all sensless overkill which any additional is just gonna get ELIMINATED almost instantly
Perhaps Collagen inducing vitamins could help get the skin to hold more? I am thinking Biotin....?
And dont go nutty with the rubbing alcohol. You are absorbing a small amount which can add up and the body can not metabolize that stuff very well. The Liver dont like it....
And just after all this analysis in my head. The bottom line is the best way to induce top results, which is good skin retention of max amounts of T from gel is going to be to break you daily dose up in say 3 applications instead of one and rotate sites every time. Apply good lotion 30 mins after each application. Take a Biotin supplement. Drink your milk (Vit D too) and eat right. And dont touch any children while yur still stinking of rubbing alcohol. For good measure, go ahead and rub it on your girlfriends clit too, but stop when it starts to develop of litte head... LOL & JK..
Wait a minute. If they can grow a monster clit from SynT, why cant we enlarge out cocks?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol thanks for your tips.
Why did you mention the vitamin d? Because i have decreased that .
Does that impact absorption?>
Yeah will see if my E2 creeps up at 10g.
I will go by how I feel (historically I feel bloated and some anxiety with high E2)
D is also critical in skin. I believe it is produced when the sun interacts with cholesterol on the skin as well. So body fat profile is critical to skins properties..
What are you going to do if it creeps up?
Not sure.
Increasing fibre, brocolli, and cardio could help bring it down ?
If I have to, i have used Aromasin in the past which I prefer over Adex.
But hopefully i wont need to use pharma AI's
Hmm interesting
The AI might help but why take another drug when you can adjust your dose down or skip a few doses?
The pattern I see with you is (to me) consistent with rises in E2 that start nullifying the benefits of TDs. Loss of libido is a side of having too much E2. There's no magic level of E2 above which everyone loses libido. It varys. Just because you havent experienced it before doesnt mean you arent experiencing it now.
Rising E2 and poor absorption are two sides of the same coin. You apply T-gel to your skin and some of it gets absorbed into your bloodstream and helps you. Some of the rest of it, however, goes to the sub-q fat layer and gets converted to E2 and over time the aromatase in the skin's fat layer gets going converting T to E2. Your T level drops and your E2 goes up and the benefits of TRT get reduced or eliminated. The E2 produced counteracts what T you have left. It happened to you at 5 g/day and now its happening at 10 g/day.
If you dont want to switch to another form of TRT I understand and sympathize, but I hope you can see that this explains it as well as anything else. The pattern is take X g/day T-gel, be ok for a while, then not ok. Take more T-gel, get a higher serum T level, maybe be ok for a while (or maybe not since your aromatase has already been ignited by all the previous T exposure and now you're adding more T to the 'fire'), then not ok. This will always be the pattern so long as you continuously use T-gels.
One thing you can try is to take a break from T-gel for a few days, give your aromatase a chance to settle down, and then come back to it. Or reduce the dose. Or both. I dont recommend taking an AI at all.
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