Help on 3rd cycle!!!

[bigpun]

My last cycle I did sustanon and tren for 10 weeks with very good strength gains and mass. On this cycle I am looking to shed fat and lean down. I want to try to cut up and get harder on this one while losing fat. I am about 6'4 and 310lbs. I am not sure about bf% but it isnt too high. I will be on a strict diet with low carbs while doing cardio. Here is what my cycle looks like, please critique it as much as possible:

Week 1-8: Boldenone Prop100mg/ Tren acetate150mg EOD
Week 1-8: Winstrol 100mg/ml EOD
Week 1-10: IP clen 100mcg 1 pill ED 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off


I do not like shooting ED and I know that it might be better to shoot tren and winny ED but I think I will get just as good as results shooting EOD. So any other comments would be appreciated.

 

[bigpun]

BUMP Anyone with comments?

 

[Diablo570]

My last cycle I did sustanon and tren for 10 weeks with very good strength gains and mass. On this cycle I am looking to shed fat and lean down. I want to try to cut up and get harder on this one while losing fat. I am about 6'4 and 310lbs. I am not sure about bf% but it isnt too high. I will be on a strict diet with low carbs while doing cardio. Here is what my cycle looks like, please critique it as much as possible:

Week 1-8: Boldenone Prop100mg/ Tren acetate150mg EOD
Week 1-8: Winstrol 100mg/ml EOD
Week 1-10: IP clen 100mcg 1 pill ED 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off


I do not like shooting ED and I know that it might be better to shoot tren and winny ED but I think I will get just as good as results shooting EOD. So any other comments would be appreciated.

Have you ever used Boldenone Undec(EQ)? For some, like me, it increases your appetite big time! So much in fact, that I couldnt ever diet. It was awful!
If you have not tried it yet, drop it and try someting else......maybe Masteron or .....holyshit bro, you dont even have a testosterone in your cycle. WTF?? That tren will shut you down big time. Ok, replace your boldenon with Test Prop (ED injections!), maybe 75mg ED for someone your size. And whats up with the EOD injection shit?
Be a man bro, do your Winstrol, Test Prop, and Tren Acetate EVERY DAY!
You're going to sacrafice gains for a little discomfort? (rolling eyes).
Dont skimp on taking your gear bro, otherwise you may skimp on your gains.
Diablo

 

[einstein1905]

You don't really need test in this one, as the winny will serve the dopaminergic function that test normally would to counteract the inhibition of dopaminergic actions via elevated prolactin from tren. One thing....you should start the winny week 2 or 3 and run it one week past the tren, which should make recovery a bit easier.

 

[einstein1905]

Also, when you say low carb diet....that's fine. Just don't skimp pre and pwo carbs....you can basically cut them out everywhere else in the day, but those times are crucial IMO.

 

[crowman169]

eq is great for vascularity but i cant control my apetite on it. tahts why i love using it for bulking. it truly makes you eat like a horse

 

[Diablo570]

You don't really need test in this one, as the winny will serve the dopaminergic function that test normally would to counteract the inhibition of dopaminergic actions via elevated prolactin from tren. One thing....you should start the winny week 2 or 3 and run it one week past the tren, which should make recovery a bit easier.

So are you saying that stanozolol blocks the effects of prolactin, which is greatly lowered sex drive?

I was mentioning that he incorperate a testosterone into his cycle to keep his libido in check.

Im sort of confused by your response and am just clarifying that it has something to do with his libido.
(if what I am typing tonight makes little to no sense, Im drunk, but coherent. )

Diablo

 

[einstein1905]

So are you saying that stanozolol blocks the effects of prolactin, which is greatly lowered sex drive?

I was mentioning that he incorperate a testosterone into his cycle to keep his libido in check.

Im sort of confused by your response and am just clarifying that it has something to do with his libido.
(if what I am typing tonight makes little to no sense, Im drunk, but coherent. )

Diablo

Yes, winny is dopaminergic, so it'll counteract the dopamine-inhibiting actions of elevated prolactin from the tren, one of the symptoms being lowered libido and increased refractory period. I'd personally use prop instead of the winny, but the winny will do the trick.

 

[bigpun]

The reason why I dont have any test is because I want this cycle to lean me down and not add any more mass. I simply want to lean down and harden up on this cycle. I have not tried EQ before so what else could I do to take its place although I think I can control my hunger if i did the EQ. Is it that big of a deal to shoot ED or is it ok EOD? Do i need to run any A-dex during this cycle? Is there anything else that I should think about? Thanks for the responses.

 

[mr.big]

The reason why I dont have any test is because I want this cycle to lean me down and not add any more mass. I simply want to lean down and harden up on this cycle. I have not tried EQ before so what else could I do to take its place although I think I can control my hunger if i did the EQ. Is it that big of a deal to shoot ED or is it ok EOD? Do i need to run any A-dex during this cycle? Is there anything else that I should think about? Thanks for the responses.

Bro, to be honest with you, I've used Tren Acetate EOD without any problems. If you're really paranoid about keeping test levels as even as possible throughout your cycle and don't want to inject ED, then consider Tren Enanthate and you can
just shoot twice a week if you want. But like I said, I had no problem with EOD
shots of Tren Ace.. And that was more than one cycle I used it under, of course
it was not with Winny and was stacked with other drugs..

Make sure you use plenty of Milk Thistle because remember Winny is a C17 bro!
It's toxic to the liver. Your liver will be happier!

Goodluck and Godspeed!

 

[bigpun]

Wouldnt test prop add mass because I dont want mass on this cycle at all, I am already big enough. I thought the EQ, winny, and tren would be a great cycle to lean down and harden? Should I put test prop instead of winny or is it alright like it is? Einstein, so I should start the winny a week after the tren and EQ and run it a week past? Also, do i need to take a-dex or nolvadex throughout my cycle? The reason I am using tren acetate instead of enanthate although I dont like to shoot ED is because I will have to shoot ED or EOD with the winny so I figured I would just shoot all of them in one day. Should I replace the EQ with something else? Help me out if you have any comments.

 

[einstein1905]

Wouldnt test prop add mass because I dont want mass on this cycle at all, I am already big enough. I thought the EQ, winny, and tren would be a great cycle to lean down and harden? Should I put test prop instead of winny or is it alright like it is? Einstein, so I should start the winny a week after the tren and EQ and run it a week past? Also, do i need to take a-dex or nolvadex throughout my cycle? The reason I am using tren acetate instead of enanthate although I dont like to shoot ED is because I will have to shoot ED or EOD with the winny so I figured I would just shoot all of them in one day. Should I replace the EQ with something else? Help me out if you have any comments.

Your diet will determine what mass comes from your cycle. Test prop doesn't need to add mass....it could merely maintain mass while you're in a caloric defecit (cutting, so to speak), but you would be retaining LBM. The winny will work. i suggested to start it later because you don't really want to run it that long. I'd say start week 3 and run it one week past the tren. I'd have nolva around, but there should be no estrogen issues. the tren, being a progestin, will increase estrogen receptors, but there won't be elevated estrogen levels to take advantage of this, so there isn't really a need to take it throughout. I may still take it to help your lipids, as both tren and winny will raise your LDL quite a bit, and your HDL will be lowered too.

 

[bigpun]

So this cycle looks good to you Einstein:

Week 1-8: Tren150/Bold Prop 100mg (1ml EOD)
Week 3-9: Winny 100mg (1ml EOD)
Week 1-10: Superclen 1 pill ED 2 weeks on/off
Week 1-10: Adex @ .5mg EOD

What kind of results should I be looking for off of this cycle? Should I lean down and get harder or will i just gain strength and lean mass? Thanks.

Your diet will determine what mass comes from your cycle. Test prop doesn't need to add mass....it could merely maintain mass while you're in a caloric defecit (cutting, so to speak), but you would be retaining LBM. The winny will work. i suggested to start it later because you don't really want to run it that long. I'd say start week 3 and run it one week past the tren. I'd have nolva around, but there should be no estrogen issues. the tren, being a progestin, will increase estrogen receptors, but there won't be elevated estrogen levels to take advantage of this, so there isn't really a need to take it throughout. I may still take it to help your lipids, as both tren and winny will raise your LDL quite a bit, and your HDL will be lowered too.

 

[einstein1905]

So this cycle looks good to you Einstein:

Week 1-8: Tren150/Bold Prop 100mg (1ml EOD)
Week 3-9: Winny 100mg (1ml EOD)
Week 1-10: Superclen 1 pill ED 2 weeks on/off
Week 1-10: Adex @ .5mg EOD

What kind of results should I be looking for off of this cycle? Should I lean down and get harder or will i just gain strength and lean mass? Thanks.

As long as your diet's on, lean mass is what you'll get. The winny and tren will harden you up, and the tren and EQ will add vascylarity. Drop the adex out of the equation though....no need for that in there at all.