Help planning bulk cycle

[Killerwolf]

Ok, so I decided to go back into another bulk rather than cut this year with dry compounds. My goal is to add another 20lbs before the end of the year.
I struggle with compound selection in bulking, my last run to give an idea on doses..
1200 test e
600 deca
700 boldenone cyp
/Week
3iu gh /day

EQ makes me very antsy and anxious, it does fill my muscles and control e2 like nothing else though. I tried bold cyp last run to remedy this but it felt like it did very little.

Is there another bulking compound I could be overlooking?

I'm thinking of running DHB instead, would this make sense in a bulk?
My other thought was MENT, but I am trying to have a baby within the next year or two and it's insanely suppressive.

So thinking a bulk like this...
1250 test c
600 NPP
350 DHB
6 iu GH
14 weeks
Dianabol or Anadrol
35 or 50 /day

 

[MuscleFreak]

Ok, so I decided to go back into another bulk rather than cut this year with dry compounds. My goal is to add another 20lbs before the end of the year.
I struggle with compound selection in bulking, my last run to give an idea on doses..
1200 test e
600 deca
700 boldenone cyp
/Week
3iu gh /day

EQ makes me very antsy and anxious, it does fill my muscles and control e2 like nothing else though. I tried bold cyp last run to remedy this but it felt like it did very little.

Is there another bulking compound I could be overlooking?

I'm thinking of running DHB instead, would this make sense in a bulk?
My other thought was MENT, but I am trying to have a baby within the next year or two and it's insanely suppressive.

So thinking a bulk like this...
1250 test c
600 NPP
350 DHB
6 iu GH
14 weeks
Dianabol or Anadrol
35 or 50 /day

If EQ gives u anxiety change it for primo. It is better muscle builder imo

 

[RomanMVP]

Do not be worried about using that much test, nothing puts size on me like test over 1000 mg. weekly. Some on here will disagree, but most of them have never done it. Just make sure with all that you're taking you use a lot of heart, liver and kidney support, while plowing thru the water.

 

[effswithtren]

Your last run is what I’m doing, or at least, trying to do. Test, deca, eq. My idea is test and deca as the growth promoters and eq to manage e2 while still promoting some growth and performance. I say “trying to” because so far despite attempts at frontloading the EQ and running ralox my titties are spicy. I’m going to have to refine my test:eq amounts to see if I can’t get this idea off the ground a little better.

You can run dhb in a bulk I guess. I’ve done it. I felt it added a little hardness and strength over the bloofier (but better growth promoting) stuff like test/deca. Problem was it’s hard to run in much amount due to its low concentration. Because of this I prefer it in a cut when I don’t need much for muscle retention, especially considering how much gentler it is on my body than shit like tren. But different strokes for different folks and all that I guess.

 

[Killerwolf]

If EQ gives u anxiety change it for primo. It is better muscle builder imo

I had amazing results from 1000mg primo, I do love it. When I ran at 700mg it didn't seem worth the high cost. Ive run it in a bulk before, just not trying to spend so much if im not going all out on the primo.

 

[Killerwolf]

Do not be worried about using that much test, nothing puts size on me like test over 1000 mg. weekly. Some on here will disagree, but most of them have never done it. Just make sure with all that you're taking you use a lot of heart, liver and kidney support, while plowing thru the water.

For sure, Ive worked my way up to this amount. Ive tried going back down on dose and it feels counterproductive.
I manage my e2 and blood pressure, my body just loves higher test

 

[Killerwolf]

Your last run is what I’m doing, or at least, trying to do. Test, deca, eq. My idea is test and deca as the growth promoters and eq to manage e2 while still promoting some growth and performance. I say “trying to” because so far despite attempts at frontloading the EQ and running ralox my titties are spicy. I’m going to have to refine my test:eq amounts to see if I can’t get this idea off the ground a little better.

You can run dhb in a bulk I guess. I’ve done it. I felt it added a little hardness and strength over the bloofier (but better growth promoting) stuff like test/deca. Problem was it’s hard to run in much amount due to its low concentration. Because of this I prefer it in a cut when I don’t need much for muscle retention, especially considering how much gentler it is on my body than shit like tren. But different strokes for different folks and all that I guess.

My prob with EQ is also the super long halflife. Takes forever to saturate, hence why I went with bold cyp. I don't like how after cycle you're not resetting your receptors as well, they still pinging from the eq.
I will say that cycle works for exactly what you are describing. My E2 stayed in range with 0 AIs. I feel I got lucky with the dose, I didn't dial it in with blood work, just confirmed.

 

[effswithtren]

My prob with EQ is also the super long halflife. Takes forever to saturate, hence why I went with bold cyp. I don't like how after cycle you're not resetting your receptors as well, they still pinging from the eq.
I will say that cycle works for exactly what you are describing. My E2 stayed in range with 0 AIs. I feel I got lucky with the dose, I didn't dial it in with blood work, just confirmed.

Yeah I’d rather do it with bold cyp. Shame I didn’t have a cheap source for it until I already bought a shit ton of EQ lol, but if I had the funds I’d rather be doing that component with primo anyway. Same E2 suppressing effects with less sides and more growth potential.

 

[Killerwolf]

Yeah I’d rather do it with bold cyp. Shame I didn’t have a cheap source for it until I already bought a shit ton of EQ lol, but if I had the funds I’d rather be doing that component with primo anyway. Same E2 suppressing effects with less sides and more growth potential.

I thought it was the answer to my prayers... I had found a source for it, naka labs though. It was labeled 200mg/ml but tested at 150. That in itself turned me off to it, imagine wtf the other 50mg/ ml was.
I may try again at a higher dose. Not Naka tho

 

[effswithtren]

I thought it was the answer to my prayers... I had found a source for it, naka labs though. It was labeled 200mg/ml but tested at 150. That in itself turned me off to it, imagine wtf the other 50mg/ ml was.
I may try again at a higher dose. Not Naka tho

Yeah I’d probably buy from QSC now, but only if I can figure out these wacky ratios. I’m addicted to that cheap shit. On lower test doses I was able to do it pretty easy at 2:3 or so test to EQ. I doubt it scales linearly in higher doses but even dosing on the side of EQ I’m clearly way off the mark. It may just end up being a pipe dream and I’ll have to control e2 with AI or lowering bodyfat with…proper diet *gasp* lol

 

[Killerwolf]

Yeah I’d probably buy from QSC now, but only if I can figure out these wacky ratios. I’m addicted to that cheap shit. On lower test doses I was able to do it pretty easy at 2:3 or so test to EQ. I doubt it scales linearly in higher doses but even dosing on the side of EQ I’m clearly way off the mark. It may just end up being a pipe dream and I’ll have to control e2 with AI or lowering bodyfat with…proper diet *gaspering

How high do you normally run test? I know the general rule of thumb is a 1:1 ratio with test and EQ... Buuuuut I don't run lower than a gram of test and I'm not about to run a gram of EQ.

 

[effswithtren]

How high do you normally run test? I know the general rule of thumb is a 1:1 ratio with test and EQ... Buuuuut I don't run lower than a gram of test and I'm not about to run a gram of EQ.

I’m highest I’ve ran was 800 until now. I’m at 1.2 now. Doing 900 EQ doesn’t seem to be adding up thus far, but given the ester differences and lags that come with these hormone conversions it may be too early to tell.

I’m taking precautions against HCT and BP for the EQ. Bloodwork will soon show how well that’s panning out too.

 

[Killerwolf]

I’m highest I’ve ran was 800 until now. I’m at 1.2 now. Doing 900 EQ doesn’t seem to be adding up thus far, but given the ester differences and lags that come with these hormone conversions it may be too early to tell.

I’m taking precautions against HCT and BP for the EQ. Bloodwork will soon show how well that’s panning out too.

How long have you been on the eq? You're absolutely right, it didn't hit me until late in the cycle but the effects hit hard when they did.

I graphed out a 14 week cycle last night with EQ... It didn't even reach stable levels the entire 14 weeks.

I did decide to just go test/npp/EQ HGH dianabol. I think I'm overthinking the bulk cycles

 

[effswithtren]

How long have you been on the eq? You're absolutely right, it didn't hit me until late in the cycle but the effects hit hard when they did.

I graphed out a 14 week cycle last night with EQ... It didn't even reach stable levels the entire 14 weeks.

I did decide to just go test/npp/EQ HGH dianabol. I think I'm overthinking the bulk cycles

4wks, two week front load on the EQ though. I dicked around with it on steroidplotter to make it vaguely line up with the test C. I think it’ll work out eventually I’ve just gotta work out the kinks. It’s be nice to not use AI while still doing a good amount of test.

 

[Killerwolf]

4wks, two week front load on the EQ though. I dicked around with it on steroidplotter to make it vaguely line up with the test C. I think it’ll work out eventually I’ve just gotta work out the kinks. It’s be nice to not use AI while still doing a good amount of test.

I might try that, I used steroid plotter to find out it never even levels out at 14 weeks.
I have been cautious to front load after researching it before but it does make sense if you map it out right. I think the problem comes from just front loading a shit ton with no rhyme or reason...
I'm glad you mentioned that, I think that's really going to help this cycle

 

[Killerwolf]

4wks, two week front load on the EQ though. I dicked around with it on steroidplotter to make it vaguely line up with the test C. I think it’ll work out eventually I’ve just gotta work out the kinks. It’s be nice to not use AI while still doing a good amount of test.

Also, yes I love using EQ and Primo to control E2. AIs are soooo horrible on your body, it has to be so much less stress to your system

 

[anabolicperro]

Yeah I’d probably buy from QSC now, but only if I can figure out these wacky ratios. I’m addicted to that cheap shit. On lower test doses I was able to do it pretty easy at 2:3 or so test to EQ. I doubt it scales linearly in higher doses but even dosing on the side of EQ I’m clearly way off the mark. It may just end up being a pipe dream and I’ll have to control e2 with AI or lowering bodyfat with…proper diet *gasp* lol

i am seeing many people running lower test + higher compound
how did this go?
do you have more experience using that ratio?

 

[effswithtren]

i am seeing many people running lower test + higher compound
how did this go?
do you have more experience using that ratio?

I’ve never done low test high anabolic. It’s always been a major component of any cycle I planned on growing on. The discussion you’re referencing was discussing basically a bit over TRT and an attempt at modulating estrogen through EQ/DHB/Primo.

Personally I think low test/high anabolic is dumb and best reserved for skinny bitches that get their advice from hackfrauds like MorePlatesMoreDates.

 

[Juicedhead]

test as high as you can tolerate, eq at like 80% of your test dose. as much gh as you can afford, mk677 for appetite. and insulin if you want to go all out start at 5iu post training.

 

[mchammertime]

test as high as you can tolerate, eq at like 80% of your test dose. as much gh as you can afford, mk677 for appetite. and insulin if you want to go all out start at 5iu post training.

That’s the way