help with my endo

[Glaim]

Had my first endo appointment the other day. He wants to put me on the patch (I'd much rather androgel). When I asked about androgel or test cyp, he said that he first likes to try the patch, and if I develope a skin a reaction we can move on to the gel, and that injections are just archaic.

I asked what his policy on HCG and Arimidex is - he looked confused at first as if he didn't know what I was talking about. He paused for a few seconds and said that he only uses HCG if the person is trying to get someone pregnant. He doesn't feel the need to monitor the estrogens and he said arimidex hasn't shown to be very effective or useful in terms of HRT.

So right now, he did some blood work and I have to wait another MONTH before I can even get a prescription. Any tips on how I can enlighten him on the need to monitor and control the estrogens? According to what I have read by Swale, high estrogen levels can mimic low testosterone.

 

[Weatherlite]

Print out the stick "TRT: a recipe for success" and give it to him. Tell him it's written by one of the leaders in HRT. Also, tell him that YOU are paying HIM to do what YOU want. He may be the subject matter expert (snicker) but if you want your E and E2 checked he should do it.

Take charge!

 

[Astrozombie]

Here is why I don't like the patch...

1) I don't know what dosage the patch comes in, but it is probably 5mg or 10mg like the Androgel used to be. I found that I needed to be somewhere in the middle. Androgel now comes in a pump, but for a while you were stuck with only 5mg or 10mg daily

2) It isn't as private. There is nothing to be ashamed of with your hypogonadism, but its not something I clue everyone in on. I wouldn't want the guys in the locker room asking what the patch is.

 

[pmgamer18]

To add to this
3. You need to put the patch on a new spot everyday. When you take off the patch the gule stays on your skin. By the end of the week you have 7 red sticky spots on your body.
Phil

 

[BigRagu]

they seriously need to make an effective pill...........

 

[Matt Muscle]

they seriously need to make an effective pill...........

Well they do make a pill... ANDRIOL capsules... Does anyone have any experience with this form of test replacement. You would think it would more closely resemble the bodys daily testosterone fluctuations like androgel does..as opposed to weekly injections.
Andriol is available here in Australia... but im not sure in the US?

 

[BigRagu]

Well they do make a pill... ANDRIOL capsules... Does anyone have any experience with this form of test replacement. You would think it would more closely resemble the bodys daily testosterone fluctuations like androgel does..as opposed to weekly injections.
Andriol is available here in Australia... but im not sure in the US?

yea but it's methed i think..........which kills your liver values...........

 

[SWALE]

By what you have said, this Endo has been wrong about everything he has said.

Endocrinologists should be the FIRST to appreciate estrogenic effets in males. This is especialy true, BTW, while using transdermals.

2/3's of all patch users will develop a contact dermatitis. Sure makes a lot of sense to go with it!

EVERYONE who knows anything about TRT considers Testosterone IM to be the gold standard for TRT Medicine. It is not "archaic" by any means.

MM--Andriol is not available in The States.