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I'm using 100mg prop ED, with 50mg OIL based winny/ED....the shot doesnt hurt much going in, but within 5hrs I begin to feel some real bad pain, kinda like a deep muscle bruise, my last shot i mixed in half a cc of injectible B12, to no avail. I dont know what to do, whatever body part I shoot I cant move it for a couple days, nevermind workout. Im in day 5 of a 6 week cycle, today im going to heat the vials in some warm water beforehand, also im going to separate the winny (remember-oil based) and prop injections today, putting one cc winny into my left quad and 1 cc into the right. want to see which one is causing the pain. Im also going to inject very slow, as my last injection w/the B12 was very quick when it reached the B12 in the syringe, so that maybe caused some excess muscle trauma. Any other suggestions? I have only been able to get 1 really good workout in the last 4 days due to the pain.
 
northendninja said:
I'm using 100mg prop ED, with 50mg OIL based winny/ED....the shot doesnt hurt much going in, but within 5hrs I begin to feel some real bad pain, kinda like a deep muscle bruise, my last shot i mixed in half a cc of injectible B12, to no avail. I dont know what to do, whatever body part I shoot I cant move it for a couple days, nevermind workout. Im in day 5 of a 6 week cycle, today im going to heat the vials in some warm water beforehand, also im going to separate the winny (remember-oil based) and prop injections today, putting one cc winny into my left quad and 1 cc into the right. want to see which one is causing the pain. Im also going to inject very slow, as my last injection w/the B12 was very quick when it reached the B12 in the syringe, so that maybe caused some excess muscle trauma. Any other suggestions? I have only been able to get 1 really good workout in the last 4 days due to the pain.
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Well, I like the idea of splitting up the gear into two shots. And injecting very slowly is good as well. And I have also heard that heating the vials in a little warm water works for some guys. I think that's about all you can do. Some people are just very sensitive to prop. You could also just be sensitive to higher BA levels. Which is found in gear like QV, and most UG gear. I'm guessing that your prop and winny are one or the other. Have you used this brand of gear before?
 
SuperJew said:
Well, I like the idea of splitting up the gear into two shots. And injecting very slowly is good as well. And I have also heard that heating the vials in a little warm water works for some guys. I think that's about all you can do. Some people are just very sensitive to prop. You could also just be sensitive to higher BA levels. Which is found in gear like QV, and most UG gear. I'm guessing that your prop and winny are one or the other. Have you used this brand of gear before?
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Im guessing since its oil Win its all UG stuff. Probably just a bad reaction to BA or other solvents used for Win. And Prop always hurts like a MOFO , 200mg/ml caused 3 days of limping for me. You may get use to it in another week since your in your first week now or you may be in for a long painful cycle.
 
SuperJew said:
Have you used this brand of gear before?
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no, this is the first time using the brand, however I do have a prev. cycle under my belt were I did enanthate (UG lab), and I had no problems.

my buddy who is doing the same cycle as me, and is experiencing the same pain...

its been 2 hrs since I injected in both quads, I heated up the oil, and messaged and iced the area for 5mins after injecting, so far no pain...but I isint until 4-5 hrs after that I felt real pain previously..
 
day after injection....right quad (prop) is ok, just a tiny bit of pain....left quad which was .5cc of winny (50mg) hurts like a MOFO! I warmed it up before, massaged the area after, as well as iced it. Today I going to keep the injections seperate once again, but this time add .5 cc b12 to to the winny injection, if this doesnt help, I suppose I might have to get some sterile oil to dilute it with. Any idea why the winny is so painful? the solution that I inject is not perfectly clear, and appears there are some tiny crystals? would these cause extra pain? Or is it just high BA content? Remember the winny i am using is OIL based 100mg/ml.

How hard is it to obtain sterile oil in Canada?
 
Don't know how hard it is to obtain oil in Canada,,,MediumTallandsexy might be able to help you,,,

Off topic,,,are you interested in Ninjitsu???VDC
 
N4cer said:
It's prop and winny. They're gonna hurt.
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I was expecting pain with this cycle, but not so much pain that its hard to use the muscle that was injected for 2-3 days, thats just insane. As it stands now, I cant get any real good leg workouts in, and when I inject shoulders, upper body exercises are serioulsy affected for a couple days.
 
northendninja said:
I was expecting pain with this cycle, but not so much pain that its hard to use the muscle that was injected for 2-3 days, thats just insane. As it stands now, I cant get any real good leg workouts in, and when I inject shoulders, upper body exercises are serioulsy affected for a couple days.
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Im currently using prop too..stick to your glute that should be the most bearable area.
 
I figured it was the winny...alot of people I know are'nt having pleasant experiences with the oil-based winny.Prop is gonna hurt a little but I knew when reading your description of the pain what it was because i've heard so many identical complaints.
 
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Bro. its def. those two compounds, I've never done oil Winny, but Test Prop I can not tolerate. One time I shot my right Quad, and it was so bad I couldn't do any legs for 10 days (not even cardio!) Some people can stand certain compounds better than others. I'll never do Prop again! (I tried it a few times,)
Yet cyp is completely painless for me.(Cyp.,Sus.,Deca.,Eq.,Ent.,) might be better choices for you. Some anti-est, and good to go!!!
Just my .02 worth Graybass :cool:
 
got some info on the orbit labs 100mg/ml winny...they have discontinued production of it due to the pain it causes. They will only contunie to produce 50mg/ml, and more than likely water suspended. It reverts to crystals VERY quickly and has to be heated almost immediately before every injection.
 
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