Well I have to agree with Rlhall12.... I did not want be the first one to say anything because of thoughts like yours searay. But what I got was total shit. You can go back and look at my post. I have a couple that hint on this a little.... The thing I have noticed is there are a lot of first time users using this gear. I think a lot of guys do not know the difference from good gear and bunk gear. And absolutely no one has gotten blood tests
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searay
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Well hopefully some people will get some results in and if the veterans know and trust them we have something to go by! Im sure herc will be addressing these concerns! Shit tho to be honest iv had Bloodwork done when ive felt less than the greatest and it come back at 2000!
You could be right. I'm just going off of how I responded to it. I mean he seems like a straight up guy but there is so much lacking in this thread. Forever it was about "Well he shipped fast enough so it must be good to go". That was all that was ever posted. And I never saw a vet besides the guy in the GE-TM thread give a review. And he said his bloods had fallen off after he had switched to Herc from different brand....., Btw I am not here to bash anyone. Just stating my experience.
johnnyBALLZ
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Depending on how much and how long you're running test 2000 may not be a good number.
searay
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Ive had it higher but over that bp starts climbing! !
Just interesting reading these negative reviews all the sudden. This is my first cycle and I don't know what it feels like to be on or what properly dosed gear is. But I can say I'm sitting here with my balls aching and shriveled up like raisins. Not that that means anything but there must be something in the oil to do that. If not this without a doubt would be an epic placebo effect. My strength is up, vascularity is insane while I'm packing on weight. Time will tell but I'm having huge doubts and where I'm at the only way to get a lab is to have a Doc's order..
loveyourbody
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I'm sadden to see these reviews I've been a member for 3 years here in meso I had some delays on my cycle with his gear because you work. But, I've done 6+ cycles and tried almost all gear. I will post my experience with his gear once I start it. I know bunk from Gtg
herculesbb
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If anyone who has ordered from us has a problem with the quality of our products, please let us know. I stand behind my products 100% and I won't hesitate to make things right if my company is at fault. I encourage anyone who has ran a cycle with our products to leave us some feedback on this thread or to our e-mail.
searay
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Way to stand behind your business herc!! Well said!!
BIGMESC
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I am considering getting labs done anyway, not a veteran and this was first cycle and was test only. What should t level be after 8-weeks of 500mg test-c
>than 1500 thats for sure, please do it'd settle a lot of doubts. Although what I feel negates the people saying it is bunk that would be a sure fire way!
BIGMESC
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Being a rookie I don't know what good gear is like but I also have had sides real or imagined. Acne on chest and back, not bad and could be all the sweating. Also around week 6 had tender nips and started some nolva I had on hand for PCT and continued at 20mg EOD and all is fine. One thing I have noticed is that if I take a bonus pin of 100mg test prop during the week I feel like I think I should on gear. Perhaps my dose is to low. I will get lab work done tomorrow and post results when they come in.
Pump at the gym last night were pretty good and strength stayed same. The pharma test is still in my system from prev weeks of running. Im going to keep running this stuff and see if gains and pumps decrease. There is no way they should because I was running 140mg eod pharma and im gonna run 250mg eod of this stuff. If I increased the pharma to 250mg eod there would be mo doubt. Youd feel that increase. Heart pounding, cock hard...like superman. I know i've done it...many times. Im not new to this. Any experienced guy will tell you there is no question that bumping up from 140mg eod to 250mg eod you feel that shit after the 1st pin. Especially if you been on it for weeks and blood levels are steady.
Also im going to continue my adex dose as it was when doing 140mg eod of pharma. I know my body and how it reacts to test. If this stuff is 250mg I would need more adex due to water retention and other e2 sides. I know because ivedone this many times. If its underdosed I will start having effects of low T and low e2. But low e2 will come first because I am supprsuppressing it. Then low T gradualy as the pharma depletes from my system. Ill start lossing the gains ive made at the gym. My weight will start decreasing. My pumps will dall off. Im not gonna fuck up my cycle so if I see these signs im going back to the pharma. Do what you want. Believe it or not...but if that stuff happens, as they say in the mefical field...thats definitive. The shit is BUNK. End of story. Stay tuned bros. Fyi im not going to fuck up my cycle. Ill give this one more week.
Also im going to continue my adex dose as it was when doing 140mg eod of pharma. I know my body and how it reacts to test. If this stuff is 250mg I would need more adex due to water retention and other e2 sides. I know because ivedone this many times. If its underdosed I will start having effects of low T and low e2. But low e2 will come first because I am supprsuppressing it. Then low T gradualy as the pharma depletes from my system. Ill start lossing the gains ive made at the gym. My weight will start decreasing. My pumps will dall off. Im not gonna fuck up my cycle so if I see these signs im going back to the pharma. Do what you want. Believe it or not...but if that stuff happens, as they say in the mefical field...thats definitive. The shit is BUNK. End of story. Stay tuned bros. Fyi im not going to fuck up my cycle. Ill give this one more week.
ChrisWarrenH
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I'm going to say. I'm surprised so many people are claiming it is bunk or under dosed without blood work being done. I have no interest in saying whether it is good or bad, I have my opinion, and I choose to deal with him and have been for about 3 or 4 months now. I choose to use him for my own reasons. My point however, why doesn't one of the tons of people that state they are getting blood tests put some up? Seriously..... so much blah blah blah and not a single person posts blood work? Before everyone makes a gtg or bunk statement perhaps proof (bloodwork)would give your statement some validity. No offense to anyone just my $.02 for everyone who is unsure of quality.
Once again labs are not the only definitive way of knowing quality of product. I used to do labs when I was new. I know now what it feels like to be low and high T as well as low and high e2. Were not talking about tx dose here. If you done this at all with g2g or pharma T you know what 250mg eod feels like man. Anyone who is crying about labs, labs, labs and doesn't get what im saying doesn't know shit and has no buisness doing this stuff.
Im not saying labs dont matter and that they are not a good methodology but anyone whos done this knows what 250mg eod feels like. Shit I can tell the difference when I add an extra 20mg eod if the shits g2g. And extra 110mg eod...yeah..ummm I dont know about you but I know what that feels like. There is NO guessing bout that. No trying to be a dick but experience is definitive too. Also comparing it to pharma is.
Im not saying labs dont matter and that they are not a good methodology but anyone whos done this knows what 250mg eod feels like. Shit I can tell the difference when I add an extra 20mg eod if the shits g2g. And extra 110mg eod...yeah..ummm I dont know about you but I know what that feels like. There is NO guessing bout that. No trying to be a dick but experience is definitive too. Also comparing it to pharma is.
ChrisWarrenH
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I am not doubting you know what 250mg EOD feels like. I'm saying there are a ton of people that don't and one of the mass quantity of people saying they will post labs never do. Kind of fucked up for these people to make claims, then say they will post labs to prove their claims than they never post them. That isn't too help full to someone who is reading this thread and has to just go off of everyone's hear say.
ChrisWarrenH
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Basically people can'take a decision about hercs legitimacy and whether to order from, YOUR feeling. That is where lab reports come in. This thread is to help prove or disprove his legitimacy to members and readers. Now once again you may have never even said you would post labs, so this may not even apply to you. I just know that quite a lot of people make claims, then say they will post labs, but seem to never post them.....
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