Heres my cycle plan, have at it!

[Shocking]

Test E @ 400mg/wk


Wks 1-13





EQ @ 800mg/wk


Wks 1-10





Var @ 60mg/ED


Wks 1-4 & 12-15





HCG @ 2000iu/E2D


Wks 16 for 10 days





Nolva @ 40mg/ED


Wks 13 - 15


@ 20mg/ED


Wks 15 - 16





Clomid @ 75mg/ED


Wks 13-14


@ 50mg/ED


Wks 14-15


@ 25mg/ED


Wks 15-16

 

[Logan44551]

Test E @ 400mg/wk


Wks 1-13





EQ @ 800mg/wk


Wks 1-10





Var @ 60mg/ED


Wks 1-4 & 12-15





HCG @ 2000iu/E2D


Wks 16 for 10 days





Nolva @ 40mg/ED


Wks 13 - 15


@ 20mg/ED


Wks 15 - 16





Clomid @ 75mg/ED


Wks 13-14


@ 50mg/ED


Wks 14-15


@ 25mg/ED


Wks 15-16

Your PCT timing is weird. You need at least 3-4 weeks off entirely for esters to clear before starting your nolva and clomid.
That's a lot of var as well, I'd put it at the tale end of the cycle personally. Never ran EQ so don't have any advice there.

 

[Shocking]

Your PCT timing is weird. You need at least 3-4 weeks off entirely for esters to clear before starting your nolva and clomid.
That's a lot of var as well, I'd put it at the tale end of the cycle personally. Never ran EQ so don't have any advice there.

I think I will just run the Var at the tale end, I wasn't sure with that. I'll have to look more into the exact timing of nolva and comid for pct, I've been hearing mixed advise

 

[Ferenor]

I do prefer to wait for other guys opinions, but I think that eq should be run longer ?

 

[MFAAS]

Test E @ 400mg/wk


Wks 1-13





EQ @ 800mg/wk


Wks 1-10





Var @ 60mg/ED


Wks 1-4 & 12-15





HCG @ 2000iu/E2D


Wks 16 for 10 days





Nolva @ 40mg/ED


Wks 13 - 15


@ 20mg/ED


Wks 15 - 16





Clomid @ 75mg/ED


Wks 13-14


@ 50mg/ED


Wks 14-15


@ 25mg/ED


Wks 15-16

Just do 50 mg/8 weeks straight of Anavar, don't split it up. There's no reason to go over 50 mg unless you have bunk shit that is underdosed, in which case you aren't really going over 50 mg anyway, just making up for the bunk pills you are using.

Your HCG dose is weird. HCG itself is suppressive and you are using it incorrectly. The point is to keep your balls working throughout your cycle. If you start HCG after your cycle is over, you are just extending the suppression ofyour natural T production. I would just do 1000-1200 IU per week throughout your cycle, stopping it at week 13 with your Test. I believe too much HCG can cause desensitization of the leydig cells to FSH/LH, so you could actually hurt yourself my taking too much HCG too fast.

If money is a problem for you for HCG, you can start to taper your dosage up from the beginning of your cycle to make it so you use the same overall amount of HCG and don't have to buy extra.

Take a look at this. Here is my recommended cycle for you. If anyone else has different opinions, feel free to let me know, but this is what I think would be best for your cycle and PCT based off the substances you're taking and latest research of HCG and SERMs/PCT.



I attached a file for you to look at.

 

[Shocking]

Just do 50 mg/8 weeks straight of Anavar, don't split it up. There's no reason to go over 50 mg unless you have bunk shit that is underdosed, in which case you aren't really going over 50 mg anyway, just making up for the bunk pills you are using.

Your HCG dose is weird. HCG itself is suppressive and you are using it incorrectly. The point is to keep your balls working throughout your cycle. If you start HCG after your cycle is over, you are just extending the suppression ofyour natural T production. I would just do 1000-1200 IU per week throughout your cycle, stopping it at week 13 with your Test. I believe too much HCG can cause desensitization of the leydig cells to FSH/LH, so you could actually hurt yourself my taking too much HCG too fast.

If money is a problem for you for HCG, you can start to taper your dosage up from the beginning of your cycle to make it so you use the same overall amount of HCG and don't have to buy extra.

Take a look at this. Here is my recommended cycle for you. If anyone else has different opinions, feel free to let me know, but this is what I think would be best for your cycle and PCT based off the substances you're taking and latest research of HCG and SERMs/PCT.

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I attached a file for you to look at.

Thank you for the thought out reply! Just one question if I split my test E and EQ into Monday and Thursday pins, Do you think i should also pin 500iu HCG on the monday and thursday or is there a better way to split this up?

 

[MFAAS]

Thank you for the thought out reply! Just one question if I split my test E and EQ into Monday and Thursday pins, Do you think i should also pin 500iu HCG on the monday and thursday or is there a better way to split this up?

Personally I like to pin my HCG the day before my AAS pin. Since that is at trough (the lowest blood levels of AAS throughout the week) it causes the HCG to "level you out" rather than bump you up even higher. Doing the HCG this way means less aromatization (HCG creates a lot of free test, which then aromatizes more or less depending on base test levels and whatnot, so when you do this on top of/at the same time as your Test pin, it can make it harder to manage E2 in my experience). This was suggested to me by a juicy TRT doc I met and I have gone with it ever since. For a while I wasn't even doing my HCG because it caused E2 issues, but now I have no problems at all when I take it the day before pin

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Did you find that along with your perfect diet and training , 400mg of EQ weren’t enough?
Just asking..

 

[Eman]

Your HCG dose is weird. HCG itself is suppressive and you are using it incorrectly

It's not really being used incorrectly. There are essentially two ways to dose HCG. You outlined one, he outlined the other... However, it's better to dose it for the first 14 days leading into the PCT then begin the SERMS. Your way keeps the testes rocking throughout the cycle, his way brings them back into action post cycle. Essentially the same, timing is a little off though.

 

[Shocking]

It's not really being used incorrectly. There are essentially two ways to dose HCG. You outlined one, he outlined the other... However, it's better to dose it for the first 14 days leading into the PCT then begin the SERMS. Your way keeps the testes rocking throughout the cycle, his way brings them back into action post cycle. Essentially the same, timing is a little off though.

How would you time the post cycle hcg?

 

[Shocking]

Can running HCG during cycle increase estrogen level?

 

[Ferenor]

How would you time the post cycle hcg?

I'll try to give you my opinion. You inject the hcg eod the two weeks before you starts the serms, so in the period were the esters are cleaning out from your system. With EQ I suppose you have to wait more than the usual two weeks, I suppose it's around one month the eq clearing time.

Can running HCG during cycle increase estrogen level?

Yes, it can and probably will.

 

[Shocking]

I'll try to give you my opinion. You inject the hcg eod the two weeks before you starts the serms, so in the period were the esters are cleaning out from your system. With EQ I suppose you have to wait more than the usual two weeks, I suppose it's around one month the eq clearing time.

Yes, it can and probably will.

Ill have to sus my bloodwork on cycle but i think ill run arimidex to be on the safe side from gyno..

 

[Shocking]

I'll try to give you my opinion. You inject the hcg eod the two weeks before you starts the serms, so in the period were the esters are cleaning out from your system. With EQ I suppose you have to wait more than the usual two weeks, I suppose it's around one month the eq clearing time.

Yes, it can and probably wil

What dosage of serms would you suggest?

 

[Ferenor]

What dosage of serms would you suggest?

I would run 20mg Nolva and 50mg Clomid. If you were going to run Test Only you could get out with just 20mg Nolva but with the extra compound I'll prefer to be safe than sorry with the Clomid added.

 

[Shocking]

Here's my blood work, I think I'm relatively good

 

[Ferenor]

Are those bloods taken on cycle?

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Your PCT timing is weird. You need at least 3-4 weeks off entirely for esters to clear before starting your nolva and clomid.
That's a lot of var as well, I'd put it at the tale end of the cycle personally. Never ran EQ so don't have any advice there.

Should he let it crash though?
I feel as though waiting 2 weeks and then starting PCT was a pretty goor bridge to.not crash levels and help retain gains. I definitely wouldn't wake 4 weeks.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Start at 600mgs Eq.

Run 14-20 weeks.

 

[Logan44551]

Should he let it crash though?
I feel as though waiting 2 weeks and then starting PCT was a pretty goor bridge to.not crash levels and help retain gains. I definitely wouldn't wake 4 weeks.

That's the whole point of timing a PCT. You can't begin to recover, whole levels are artificiality elevated. When I PCT I always waited at least a month on 500mg test e.