HGH degradation testing

[Liska]

For reconstituted HCG degradation testing, see:

HCG degradation testing after 30, 45, 60 days

This is a work in progress of testing reconstituted HCG for degradation after 30, 45 and 60 days stored between 2-8 degrees celsius as advised. Posting this with slight delay as I needed to check that it matched the contents of pharmaceutical HCG to exclude this as a variable. Was able to...

thinksteroids.com

My initial HGH test was conducted by Janoshik on the 20th of January; with the five tested vials showing an insignificant variance containing between 4.25mg (12,75iu) - 4.31mg (12,93iu) and a purity of 97.0 - 97.5%, which is well within the margin of error for the testing method. Please don't forget that you can scroll down on these reports to see the raw testing data:
https://janoshik.com/tests/26906-Northern_Tiger_Catropin_bestcatropin

After testing, one of the tested vials was immediately placed into a fridge with a temperature range within 2-8 degrees celsius, and on the 25th of January tested again at 4.23mg (12.69iu) with a purity of 96.352%, which is still within the margin of error for the testing method compared to the initial test, especially when looking at the amount remaining in the vial as an indicator rather than the purity:
https://janoshik.com/tests/26952-Northern_Tiger_Catropin_bestcatropin

Repeating the previous process, the same vial was tested again on the 31st of January at 4.20mg (12.6iu) and 96.6% purity, once again within the margin of error for the testing method:
https://janoshik.com/tests/27062-Northern_Tiger_Catropin_bestcatropin

In conclusion, lyophilized HGH does not degrade to a degree that is accurately measurable by the current testing method within the amount of days one would reasonably use a reconstituted vial for, as using as little as 2iu per day will deplete even a vial containing 20iu within 10 days, so we decided to conclude testing at this point.

Since all I'm doing is sending product & payment, all our thanks are belong to @janoshik for still having the passion and patience to conduct these special requests!

 

[godsgifttoearth]

thank you for this.

 

[Fautquejyaille]

Good job @Liska

 

[Tremsor]

Awesome work @Liska

 

[freakyjacked29]

Great work appreciated

 

[eery]

I applaud both Jano and Liska for this wonderful work, you guys are lovely.

 

[biggerben69]

Well done! Appreciate your funding which answers questions the Community could only speculate on for years!

Nice to see @janoshik getting the respect and appreciation he deserves.

Perseverance and just enough ego and stubbornness to hang tough when most others would've hung it up or at the very least changed venues(left meso) and bad mouthed us as many failed sources and some members have done over the years.

The early years, at times, weren't much fun for the man. Jano, easily the most tagged individual at meso in those days, answered 99% of those tags to defend himself, his work, and his vision.

I hope the workaholic in you allows you to enjoy the spoils of victory my man? Continued success to you!

 

[janoshik]

Thank you.

All is well, @biggerben69, we're growing as a company and I'm now well off and mostly overseeing everything going smoothly, so I have plenty of time that I use to spend with my family. (And the workaholic in me says explore new unrelated venues soon!)

Just trying to help people and live a good life now. I hope you are well too.

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Refrigerated hgh reconstituted will have negligible degradation up to a month I thought.

 

[Liska]

Refrigerated hgh reconstituted will have negligible degradation up to a month I thought.

Since the pharmacopeia guidelines regarding quality of HGH (iirc as low as 90% purity and as high as 2% dimer were still within the guidelines) are so far below those of our community (as are the max. dosages used in the medical field upon which these are based vs bodybuilding), I assume those might be the basis of reconstituted pharma HGH expiration dates as well, making that information potentially useless for our community, in addition of the different compositions of excipients/added stabilizers affecting these dates (m-cresol in genotropin etc.).

Unaware of any other data we could even use for estimation, I really wanted to know for sure and specifically for the HGH excipient composition used in pretty much all chinese generic HGH (even those importing HGH raws to lyophilize locally usually get API mixed with said excipients at a comparable ratio, pure HGH API is far more seldom and there's very few reasons to want that specifically).

 

[Ridethelightningbarefoot]

Since the pharmacopeia guidelines regarding quality of HGH (iirc as low as 90% purity and as high as 2% dimer were still within the guidelines) are so far below those of our community (as are the max. dosages used in the medical field upon which these are based vs bodybuilding), I assume those might be the basis of reconstituted pharma HGH expiration dates as well, making that information potentially useless for our community, in addition of the different compositions of excipients/added stabilizers affecting these dates (m-cresol in genotropin etc.).

Unaware of any other data we could even use for estimation, I really wanted to know for sure and specifically for the HGH excipient composition used in pretty much all chinese generic HGH (even those importing HGH raws to lyophilize locally usually get API mixed with said excipients at a comparable ratio, pure HGH API is far more seldom and there's very few reasons to want that specifically).

Ive heard that from coaches

 

[Pounds23]

For reconstituted HCG degradation testing, see:

HCG degradation testing after 30, 45, 60 days

This is a work in progress of testing reconstituted HCG for degradation after 30, 45 and 60 days stored between 2-8 degrees celsius as advised. Posting this with slight delay as I needed to check that it matched the contents of pharmaceutical HCG to exclude this as a variable. Was able to...

thinksteroids.com

My initial HGH test was conducted by Janoshik on the 20th of January; with the five tested vials showing an insignificant variance containing between 4.25mg (12,75iu) - 4.31mg (12,93iu) and a purity of 97.0 - 97.5%, which is well within the margin of error for the testing method. Please don't forget that you can scroll down on these reports to see the raw testing data:
https://janoshik.com/tests/26906-Northern_Tiger_Catropin_bestcatropin

After testing, one of the tested vials was immediately placed into a fridge with a temperature range within 2-8 degrees celsius, and on the 25th of January tested again at 4.23mg (12.69iu) with a purity of 96.352%, which is still within the margin of error for the testing method compared to the initial test, especially when looking at the amount remaining in the vial as an indicator rather than the purity:
https://janoshik.com/tests/26952-Northern_Tiger_Catropin_bestcatropin

Repeating the previous process, the same vial was tested again on the 31st of January at 4.20mg (12.6iu) and 96.6% purity, once again within the margin of error for the testing method:
https://janoshik.com/tests/27062-Northern_Tiger_Catropin_bestcatropin

In conclusion, lyophilized HGH does not degrade to a degree that is accurately measurable by the current testing method within the amount of days one would reasonably use a reconstituted vial for, as using as little as 2iu per day will deplete even a vial containing 20iu within 10 days, so we decided to conclude testing at this point.

Since all I'm doing is sending product & payment, all our thanks are belong to @janoshik for still having the passion and patience to conduct these special requests!

Thank you for doing this testing liska and jano taking the time.... But big appreciation to liska for spending the money and product in these testing reports.... I can only speak for myself but highly appreciate these

 

[Resore]

Will there ever be testing after a year with your unreconstitued HGH in terms of purity and will there be tests about purity done again with reconsituted HGH in a year or even more month?

 

[Liska]

Will there ever be testing after a year with your unreconstitued HGH in terms of purity and will there be tests about purity done again with reconsituted HGH in a year or even more month?

To exclude any possibility of manipulating the sample in the first case, I'd have to leave it in Janoshik's care and controlled storage for an entire year, so that test is unlikely to happen. In the second case, are you asking about testing a vial of reconstituted HGH that has been sitting in the fridge for a month/a year? If so, no, as that's not a situation anyone should encounter.

 

[Resore]

To exclude any possibility of manipulating the sample in the first case, I'd have to leave it in Janoshik's care and controlled storage for an entire year, so that test is unlikely to happen. In the second case, are you asking about testing a vial of reconstituted HGH that has been sitting in the fridge for a month/a year? If so, no, as that's not a situation anyone should encouno,

I wanted to know if you would send another sample to find out what the purity is. I thought hgh is always so unstable and doesn't last that long. Maybe iam wrong here.
Oh, i also see there is an expiry date on your product so the question is probably obsolete.

 

[Resore]

Will the tests still come for days 30,45 and 60?
At least 30 days would be interesting for someone who uses it for antiaging purposes with much smaller dosages like 0,1-0,5 iu

 

[Liska]

Will the tests still come for days 30,45 and 60?
At least 30 days would be interesting for someone who uses it for antiaging purposes with much smaller dosages like 0,1-0,5 iu

Please read the conclusion in the OP. I'm not aware of anti-aging protocols using dosages anywhere as low as 0,1-0,5iu but feel free to make a new thread about microdosing HGH to get a wider variety of input.

 

[Ghost1776]

Great work guys!

 

[jJjburton]

For reconstituted HCG degradation testing, see:

HCG degradation testing after 30, 45, 60 days

This is a work in progress of testing reconstituted HCG for degradation after 30, 45 and 60 days stored between 2-8 degrees celsius as advised. Posting this with slight delay as I needed to check that it matched the contents of pharmaceutical HCG to exclude this as a variable. Was able to...

thinksteroids.com

My initial HGH test was conducted by Janoshik on the 20th of January; with the five tested vials showing an insignificant variance containing between 4.25mg (12,75iu) - 4.31mg (12,93iu) and a purity of 97.0 - 97.5%, which is well within the margin of error for the testing method. Please don't forget that you can scroll down on these reports to see the raw testing data:
https://janoshik.com/tests/26906-Northern_Tiger_Catropin_bestcatropin

After testing, one of the tested vials was immediately placed into a fridge with a temperature range within 2-8 degrees celsius, and on the 25th of January tested again at 4.23mg (12.69iu) with a purity of 96.352%, which is still within the margin of error for the testing method compared to the initial test, especially when looking at the amount remaining in the vial as an indicator rather than the purity:
https://janoshik.com/tests/26952-Northern_Tiger_Catropin_bestcatropin

Repeating the previous process, the same vial was tested again on the 31st of January at 4.20mg (12.6iu) and 96.6% purity, once again within the margin of error for the testing method:
https://janoshik.com/tests/27062-Northern_Tiger_Catropin_bestcatropin

In conclusion, lyophilized HGH does not degrade to a degree that is accurately measurable by the current testing method within the amount of days one would reasonably use a reconstituted vial for, as using as little as 2iu per day will deplete even a vial containing 20iu within 10 days, so we decided to conclude testing at this point.

Since all I'm doing is sending product & payment, all our thanks are belong to @janoshik for still having the passion and patience to conduct these special requests!

This was after it was reconstituted?

 

[jJjburton]

Refrigerated hgh reconstituted will have negligible degradation up to a month I thought.

Is this true?