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[MrTexas2]

Which tops were they??

Blue. The batch I got before were crystal clear....mixed instantly and were some of the best GH I have had. I purchased my current 1 day before the last sale.

I actually switched over to opti because my long time source had become cloudy.

 

[MrTexas2]

I'm old enough to remember the days of cash in mail and wiring funds overseas. Back when the only gear there was had to be bought in pharmacies overseas and mailed back here. Finaplex implants and DMSO, which became homebrew tren, which became the first UGLs.

I am waaaay old. I won my first show in 1989. We used to have to smuggle in from Mexico back then, and we all read Dan Duchaines' books. 11 years ago I would send a guy cash in mail (a lot) and I would get a large Chinese container full of oil.

One time that oil was very bad. Since I was capping already I made the next step to brewing from raws.

 

[BALLISTIC]

Blue. The batch I got before were crystal clear....mixed instantly and were some of the best GH I have had. I purchased my current 1 day before the last sale.

I actually switched over to opti because my long time source had become cloudy.

How did you reconstitute? I have numerous kits of blue and have reconstituted 1 vial from 6 different kits, all are crystal clear. Edit: I purchased these kits day 1 of sale.

I also purchased Gold tops, they are recon with 2ml and crystal clear.

I know the green tops were going cloudy and reason for Opti discontinuing.

 

[tracct01]

My blue top is slightly cloudy too, definitely not crystal clear. Reconstituted with 1 mL hospira at room temp. Ordered during BF sale.

 

[MrTexas2]

How did you reconstitute? I have numerous kits of blue and have reconstituted 1 vial from 6 different kits, all are crystal clear. Edit: I purchased these kits day 1 of sale.

I also purchased Gold tops, they are recon with 2ml and crystal clear.

I know the green tops were going cloudy and reason for Opti discontinuing.

Used the same bac water as usual. Hopefully the other vials will mix clear. I will be extra sure to make sure everything is clean.

 

[Methyl Mike]

Used the same bac water as usual. Hopefully the other vials will mix clear. I will be extra sure to make sure everything is clean.

I have recon many vials of opti grey black and gold tops with distilled water and never had issues and they never came out cloudy.

I boiled and then chilled the water fwiw.

 

[crispybacon!]

I have recon many vials of opti grey black and gold tops with distilled water and never had issues and they never came out cloudy.

I boiled and then chilled the water fwiw.

That’s a first for me… How do you even ensure and maintain sterility of the water? I’d suggest people stick with bac water.

 

[Methyl Mike]

That’s a first for me… How do you even ensure and maintain sterility of the water? I’d suggest people stick with bac water.

Boiled water is sterile. And if you chill it immediately after boiling, and pin what you recon within a couple days it's a safe bet nothing bad will have had time to grow. Think what you will, I have personally done it many times as sterile water and BAC water is not available for me locally. I can get it online sure, and normally I do. Shit happens. I've had to part ways with vials of BAC to help people out and found myself In need and rather than break my protocol and wait on the mail I've used distilled water and never had not one issue with it. Subq shots are not the same as IV your immune system will still protect you. And fwiw, junkies slam dope with whatever liquid they can find, tap water toilet water probably even just spit and they seem to survive somehow so what I'm suggesting is not really far fetched.

Think outside the box.

 

[BlackVeil]

Currently going through my gold tops.

They are still all reconing perfectly clear. Yet to have any cloudy.
Hospira bac.

 

[Infernalmango]

Boiled water is sterile. And if you chill it immediately after boiling, and pin what you recon within a couple days it's a safe bet nothing bad will have had time to grow. Think what you will, I have personally done it many times as sterile water and BAC water is not available for me locally. I can get it online sure, and normally I do. Shit happens. I've had to part ways with vials of BAC to help people out and found myself In need and rather than break my protocol and wait on the mail I've used distilled water and never had not one issue with it. Subq shots are not the same as IV your immune system will still protect you. And fwiw, junkies slam dope with whatever liquid they can find, tap water toilet water probably even just spit and they seem to survive somehow so what I'm suggesting is not really far fetched.

Think outside the box.

Ba and distilled water is cheap. Could make a gallon of bac for like 5 dollars. I mean if what you got going on works for you then more power to ya. Just a thought.

 

[crispybacon!]

Boiled water is sterile. And if you chill it immediately after boiling, and pin what you recon within a couple days it's a safe bet nothing bad will have had time to grow. Think what you will, I have personally done it many times as sterile water and BAC water is not available for me locally. I can get it online sure, and normally I do. Shit happens. I've had to part ways with vials of BAC to help people out and found myself In need and rather than break my protocol and wait on the mail I've used distilled water and never had not one issue with it. Subq shots are not the same as IV your immune system will still protect you. And fwiw, junkies slam dope with whatever liquid they can find, tap water toilet water probably even just spit and they seem to survive somehow so what I'm suggesting is not really far fetched.

Think outside the box.

I can’t tell you what to do, but just because you’ve done it this way and nothing bad has happened, doesn’t validate your technique.

Just a reminder, this is a harm reduction forum and we aren’t (hopefully) junkies, so probably shouldn’t be using them as reference. I would just caution anyone taking this information under consideration do a little research and also remember that the cost of bac water is minimal in the grand scheme of things.

 

[bob357sig]

Just made the jump into the GH game. Gold tops and Bac water ordered. Slin pins already on there way. Went with Opti based off pure reputation, I don’t care if I can get shit cheaper from China! Im not looking to use to get huge, at 55 yrs im looking for more quality of life issues ( joint repair, general health, exc ) . Thinking 3iu day for 120 days, then see how I feel about continuing.

 

[tracct01]

Just made the jump into the GH game. Gold tops and Bac water ordered. Slin pins already on there way. Went with Opti based off pure reputation, I don’t care if I can get shit cheaper from China! Im not looking to use to get huge, at 55 yrs im looking for more quality of life issues ( joint repair, general health, exc ) . Thinking 3iu day for 120 days, then see how I feel about continuing.

Consider getting gh naive IGF1 blood work to help guide dosing if you're thinking anti-aging and don't want to get into supraphysiological levels