Ateam2023
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i've moved my hgh injection to am fasted, and it seems to be better for me all around, my sleep is improving as well as daily energy levels,,
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songsofpyramids
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I like it better in the morning now too truthfully. My HRV has gone back up pretty substantially from shifting as well.
Ive seen this too about am/pm dosing for longevity. Does anyone know what those clinics base that on? Or is it more so ease of use for the average person?
songsofpyramids
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I think it’s largely because they promote its use fasting with cardio or lifting to minimize insulin risk with hgh use. They’re also aiming to minimize igf1 to around 150 for most people. Also they largely don’t believe maintaining natural rhythm matters (night dosing) because they’ve supplanted the natural system with exogenous hormone. The anti aging stuff with it has gotten pretty interesting, and it has fallen out of vogue drastically.
Theres a trial going on for this now, but I can't find any info on the dosing. Its the triim-x trial with dr. Fahy. They're using metformin and dhea for insulin control in the study however so it makes me think theyre using high doses. The premise is regenerating the thymus gland will reverse aging in the study.
Ghoul
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Within an hour of dosing free fatty acids. mostly liberated from harmful visceral fat, flood the bloodstream. If you do low to moderate cardio (or just stay active) during the 4-5 hour window they stay elevated you'll use them as fuel before being redeposited back to visceral fat depots.
If this happens while sleeping it won't do much for reducing visceral fat.
This mostly matters during the first 6-12 months, after which there's not nearly as much FFA to liberate since visceral fat will already be significantly reduced, so it's not nearly as much of a benefit for users who've been on rHGH for a while.
Being fasted during this state helps too because insulin will blunt the GH fatty acid liberating effect.
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Reversal of epigenetic aging and immunosenescent trends in humans - PMC
Epigenetic “clocks” can now surpass chronological age in accuracy for estimating biological age. Here, we use four such age estimators to show that epigenetic aging can be reversed in humans. Using a protocol intended to regenerate the thymus, we ...
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Looks like they started at 0.015 mg/kg and aimed for high-normal igf1.
Due to ED pinning of GH making my RHR jump a shit ton I recently experimented with pinning 8iU only on Mon-Wed-Fri night instead of 3iu/ED and strangely it seems to alleviate the HR issue quite a bit. Coincidentally M/W/F are also my lifting days for the week so in my mind it should help with recovery.
The anti aging thread studies where they were pinning guys Mon-Wed-Fri with 0.03mg/kg of GH showed it still seems to work very well at that frequency with something like a 9% increase in LBM and a 10+ % decrease in fat mass. And that was in guys who weren't even taking AAS. I think it's certainly worth trying for several months and seeing how it pans out.
Thanks for this. Thats much higher than I was thinking they used before.Reversal of epigenetic aging and immunosenescent trends in humans - PMC
Epigenetic “clocks” can now surpass chronological age in accuracy for estimating biological age. Here, we use four such age estimators to show that epigenetic aging can be reversed in humans. Using a protocol intended to regenerate the thymus, we ...
Looks like they started at 0.015 mg/kg and aimed for high-normal igf1.
Edit: they're taking 3-4x a week it says also so the amounts don't seem so out of the ordinary.
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AlexDavis43
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Fasted cardio is fine if that's what you prefer but many studies have shown that for overall fat loss: fasted, fed, time of day, etc... it doesn't matter
It's just the calorie burn whenever you can get it
It's just the calorie burn whenever you can get it
Mrhairyman
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My dose timing happens to fall PWO , any significant benefits to this?
I hear a lot about pinning post workout, but not pre-workout.
Ateam2023
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i think all that really matters is that you consistently take the hgh , pre , post, mid, doesn't really matter much, im sure others will agree/disagree , but ime/imo getting your hgh in "consistently" is really the key factor, of course "taking it away from carbs" is also important, as food intake spikes insulin levels which should be avoided,
AlexDavis43
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I take it preworkout too but not for any fairy tale fat loss myths
People talk about this or that fatty acids in the bloodstream or fasted cardio etc but they're not optimizing, they're more likely parroting outdated broscience or getting drunk using ChatGPT (ie, not using critical thinking skills)
Timing of meals or when you inject GH relative to when you do cardio doesn't matter (minutiae)
For fat loss the total daily or weekly energy deficit is what you should be concerned with
Using GH gives you a nudge promoting fat loss but is far from the main driver compared to an energy deficit
songsofpyramids
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I’m inclined to agree timing in general is minutia beyond whatever works for the individual. If it keeps you up at night do it am or earlier evening, if it makes you groggy and sleepy do it before bed, that kinda shit is all that seems to really matter. That and staying hydrated but that’s important anyway.
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