My sentiments exactly BB, since over the past 3-4 years I've had at least 4-5 "KIGS" tested from differing sites and NONE caused more than a 10-20% rise in GH or IGF (which is well within the limits of normal physiologic variation).
This is in spite of the fact a doubling or tripling from baseline levels occurs when an identical dose of pharmaceutical grade rHGH was utilized.
What a precedent it would be for a PED website to finally break the mold set by the lame examples of competitors and stand by the quality of their "KIGS", just like anything else on their shelves, especially when such high end products like Sciroxx AAS are also found on that shelf!
But that's just my opinion!