HGH plus Test E cycle for begginer

[Mr.B66]

What puzzles me is that you insist that you are only gonna do two cycles then quit, but you haven't even run your first cycle yet your already asking about your second cycle.
This will likely turn into a lifelong thing. You should really look into this A LOT more, lotta negative shit comes with this lifestyle.


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[Dr JIM]

This will likely turn into a lifelong thing .....

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... of trying to sell all that EXTRA rHGH, lol!

Less a few medical, legal, ethical, professional and familial provisos the guys FOS.

 

[XKawN]

I thought everyone plans to run 2 or 3 cycles then quit. Isn't that how we do it? lol.

 

[Vali1984]

Ironic how that works out isn't it,

You have an "endocrinologist" and "physician parents" who arrange your cycles from AAS, to rHGH and even PCT, but neither have informed YOU of the risks, benefits or the most fundamental management strategies of such therapy!

BULLLLLLLSHIT!

Or maybe you would like to post the labs ANY competent endo or "Physician Parents" would INSIST UPON!

On second thought might some of that "GH" be for SALE, lol!

I do not have anything to sell.

My father is a surgeon and my mother a family doctor, so they don't have any experience with aas or hgh. They obviously don't agree with what I plan to do but they try to support me as to minimise the negative effects of those cycles.
I have talked to an endocrinologist about the negative effects, as you see I didn't post any questions about that stuff. He didn't plan my cycles, I did after a little research, he just told me the positives/negatives. But even he couldn't provide me with information about the gains And sustainability of those gains.
About the short careers, you obviously don't know how things work in Eastern Europe where I live. Here the laws are much more relaxed.

 

[Vali1984]

What puzzles me is that you insist that you are only gonna do two cycles then quit, but you haven't even run your first cycle yet your already asking about your second cycle.
This will likely turn into a lifelong thing. You should really look into this A LOT more, lotta negative shit comes with this lifestyle.


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Of course you are right, I haven't even began my first cycle and already planning for a year. I hope it won't turn into a lifelong addiction. My expectations for my dream body in terms of aesthetic are similar to the photo I have in my avatar. I plan to do whatever it takes to reach that goal. That's why I'm interested in hgh in the first place, to find out if after the aas it will help me keep my gains. I don't plan in getting massive, I just want about 10kg more muscle mass and to have it nicely proportioned. And then stay at that body weight as much as I can. After I reach it I hope to sustain it naturally through a perfect diet, supplements and hard training. If that doesn't work I plan to maybe use smaller doses of hgh to keep my body in a permanent anti catabolic state. I guess I will just have to wait and see. In the meantime I try to gather as much information as I can.

 

[Vali1984]

Oh, and I forgot to mention, of course it is not ethical that my parents are helping me with this. But that is my fault. I presented them the options that either they help me, either I'm doing it on my own with substances I can procure myself

 

[Dr JIM]

Great it's nice to know you don't need or require your parents help to be a FOOL!

 

[Vali1984]

Great it's nice to know you don't need or require your parents help to be a FOOL!

I don't understand why you have to be such a dick. I try to use every option and opportunities I have to reach my goals. End of story. And regarding my questions, isn't a forum supposed to be a community where members help each other?

 

[suncom3]

was wondering the same thing? Seems like here you cant even mention anything about where your acquiring any compound or you are a suspect reseller immediately, it must happen a good bit here,sounds like you may get better help not mentioning it.

 

[donnie]

There are a small number of members who get off on shitting on people here. Once the ranting dies down usually a member steps forward with some helpful advice - just wait for the grandpa style scoldings to move to another thread.

 

[Vali1984]

Hello everyone. I have decided on the final form of my cycles. I will do 2 cycles as described in my first post, the only difference is that I will run the hgh a bit longer, for about 28-30 weeks. During this period My health will be closely monitored and if everything is ok I will do theese cycles back to back. If not I will take a 2 months break between them.
My objective is to put 10-12 kg of muscle mass and to have a body fat percentage of 10%. That's it. I don't wanna get huge, or add new muscle every year. Just to reach my goal weight and stay there for as long as possible. If that new added mass won't be sustainable naturally I plan on taking small doses of hgh(2-3 ui/ day) to fight the catabolism and to help me keep my body fat in check.
Thank you to everyone who answered my questions! If everything goes well I will post some before/after pictures in 6 months.

 

[mands]

GH and Beginner cycle should NOT even be used in the same sentence.

mands

 

[suncom3]

why is gh not considered for beginner cycles ?

 

[Vali1984]

GH and Beginner cycle should NOT even be used in the same sentence.

mands

Could you please elaborate on that?

 

[mands]

Could you please elaborate on that?

Sure! First off, I don't think most "beginners" have a clue about Testosterone itself let alone more advanced and delicate PED's like GH.

Second, most "beginners" users are very uneducated and go into it blind because they want to look like the big guy in the gym that's lifting a house next to them.

Third, most "beginners" haven't got a clue about PCT or ancillaries that might be needed on cycle especially not GH.

Fourth, GH is expensive and again most "beginners" will go the cheapest route. GH is not something you want to put into your body without knowing exactly how it was produced and or manufactured. You really don't have to worry about a bottle of test even from the majority of UGL's because Test is cheap and easy to make. As are most AAS except Var, Primo and halo.

Fifth, actual results you will get with a cycle of GH is very very very minimal at best. Just an all around bad choice for a "beginners" cycle and even more advanced juice heads IMO.

Lastly, most users don't even know a good protocol that would benefit them by running GH.

Oh did I mention is not cost effective.

mands

 

[Vali1984]

Tha

Sure! First off, I don't think most "beginners" have a clue about Testosterone itself let alone more advanced and delicate PED's like GH.

Second, most "beginners" users are very uneducated and go into it blind because they want to look like the big guy in the gym that's lifting a house next to them.

Third, most "beginners" haven't got a clue about PCT or ancillaries that might be needed on cycle especially not GH.

Fourth, GH is expensive and again most "beginners" will go the cheapest route. GH is not something you want to put into your body without knowing exactly how it was produced and or manufactured. You really don't have to worry about a bottle of test even from the majority of UGL's because Test is cheap and easy to make. As are most AAS except Var, Primo and halo.

Fifth, actual results you will get with a cycle of GH is very very very minimal at best. Just an all around bad choice for a "beginners" cycle and even more advanced juice heads IMO.

Lastly, most users don't even know a good protocol that would benefit them by running GH.

Oh did I mention is not cost effective.

mands

thank you!

 

[Vali1984]

Sure! First off, I don't think most "beginners" have a clue about Testosterone itself let alone more advanced and delicate PED's like GH.

Second, most "beginners" users are very uneducated and go into it blind because they want to look like the big guy in the gym that's lifting a house next to them.

Third, most "beginners" haven't got a clue about PCT or ancillaries that might be needed on cycle especially not GH.

Fourth, GH is expensive and again most "beginners" will go the cheapest route. GH is not something you want to put into your body without knowing exactly how it was produced and or manufactured. You really don't have to worry about a bottle of test even from the majority of UGL's because Test is cheap and easy to make. As are most AAS except Var, Primo and halo.

Fifth, actual results you will get with a cycle of GH is very very very minimal at best. Just an all around bad choice for a "beginners" cycle and even more advanced juice heads IMO.

Lastly, most users don't even know a good protocol that would benefit them by running GH.

Oh did I mention is not cost effective.

mands

Thank you for the detailed reply! I'm thinking of taking gh for the next 2 reasons:
1 to help me stay lean, on this one everyone I asked seems to agree that it's working
2 to keep my body anti catabolic and maybe help me keep the gains from the testosterone.
I don't wanna get huge or anything like that, just add some good and maintainable 10 kg of mass and to stay ripped as hell as much of the year as possible.
I'm willing to experiment with gh because I have access to Pharma grade stuff and also have some professional assistance, as my parents are doctors (obviously they don't agree with what I am doing, but they are willing to help me do everything right since I made the decision to go down this road)

 

[Reporich]

How about doing a standard first cycle, which would be 500-600 mg test to see how you adjust to that then you can make additions down the road. Stop thinking you're special because you aren't, just another dude wanting to get started but you don't want to listen to others with years of experience!

 

[Vali1984]

How about doing a standard first cycle, which would be 500-600 mg test to see how you adjust to that then you can make additions down the road. Stop thinking you're special because you aren't, just another dude wanting to get started but you don't want to listen to others with years of experience!

Thank you for the input, but where have I not listened? Everyone seems to be in a consensus about gh not having much effects on muscle building but it is great for staying lean. I also wanna experiment on myself and see if by keeping my body in an anti catabolic state it will help me keep the gains from the test cycles. I've done my research about the side effects and in a dose of 4ui per day it's not that bad, or at least I think I can handle it.
I don't think I'm special, not by a longshot, but I seem to have different goals from every other guy on juice that I've met. Every dude I met that was taking aas seemed to have one goal in mind, to get huge, to their maximum potential. I just want to be a little bigger(10 more kg) and ripped. Of course I could obtain what I want naturally but I don't have the patience