Glock19 said:
1.) How are the sides from HGH? More harsh/dangerous than other AAS?
2.) I have heard that it causes your organs to grow abnormally, which can cause serious problems.
3.) What type of results can one expect from HGH (lets say 3 kits...not sure how many ICU's that is...help please.
4.) I know it is used as a great fat cutter and can reverse the aging process, but what about strength and size increase (how many lbs should one expect to gain). I believe it is all lean muscle mass gained, right?
5.) Basically I am have plateaued (sp), and am looking to put on 15lbs of lean, vascular, hard, ripped the fuck up muscle that will stay with me for a good long time.
6.) Oh yeah...last ? I promise. Is it possible to gain any inches in height from HGH (I am 25 yrs old BTW).
Glock19
1.) Ummmm, well, ever bent over to tie your shoes and felt like your head was going to pop? Ever had your wrists ache like you had arthritis? Ever felt soo out of breath from trying to climb 2 flights of stairs that it took 10 minutes and a lot of sweating to recover from? Ever had pulmonary edema?
2.) Yes, it causes organ growth....which is why it is used to treat mass wasting patients. It also helps the elderly in that regard as well. It also helps pre-existing tumors grow nicely as well....which is why doctors test patients for different forms of cancer prior to prescribing it.
3.) This is the same as saying "How much can I expect to gain from 50mg of dbol?". Each person is different.
4.) Its not that great a fat cutter. Dont be misled into thinking it will get you to valhalla. And as far as size and strength increases, taken by itself, you will suck up water, salts, and minerals and perhaps gain anywhere from 3 to 10 pounds in a week, and at that point, is does not do much else. Now, if used with insulin and other drugs, it seems to have an amplified effect but growth taken by itself does not yield much and it is certainly not a good proposition on a gains per dollar basis. However, some people use growth for rehabilitation and in that respect, it can be helpful.....but perhaps not as helpful as simply taking 6 months off of gear.....does that make sense? In other words, a guy that has to use growth 4-6 months out of the year to rehab from steroid-induced tendon and ligament damage is simply applying a bandaid. Stop the gear for a while, train, tendons become nice and healthy again. But again, with respect to size and strength gains, everybody is different, you should know that no one can forecast what you will gain. As far as using growth and insulin, if you know nothing about growth and cant even get the term IU figured out, insulin would be a very dangerous proposition for you.
5.) Doubtful. Very doubtful. As you increase in mass, you reach approach a limit asymptotically. The more you gain, the slower you will gain year-on-year....unless you have access to a stellar nutritionist, the right doctor, and about $ 80K per year for drugs. If you are 70-100# over your rest mass state (the state you were in before you started training), you would be lucky to gain 5-8# per year even with gear.
6.) not for you....not at that age and again, you're a long way from playing with growth at this stage.
Perhaps adding a couple of extra cheeseburgers and a half gallon of milk to your present diet will break you out of the stagnation. I know a guy at the gym who broke out from 254 to 268 within a month after boosting his calories about 1500 cals per day and I KNOW he is clean and doesnt look to friggin bad at that weight fat-wise. Some of you guys dont realize that you can be 185-190 and shredded...but you're always 185-190 and shredded. You need to eat more to gain more and you're not going to put on another 60# by maintaining 7-8% bodyfat....it just doesnt happen. You have to let yourself slip to around 10-12% and pile on the food.
This brings up a funny subject. I saw a guy at Gold's Huntington Beach last weekend and he looked awfully familiar. I then remembered where I saw him. I was at Panda Express picking up some food after the gym and all of these degenerate HB kids piled out of a lowered van - full on white boy disco sort of thing. Anyway, its 45 degrees out and this idiot has his shirt off walking around talking with his little buddies, kinda acting like "look at me, I think I'm big" and again, if you like the hairless high school swimmer look, I guess the kid probably thought he was the shit at a buck eighty-five....but, he will never be big as a result of his desire to be mr shredded the club bitch and no matter how much lat flexing he does walking to the drinking fountain, nobody will ever take him seriously. The parallel here is, if you look like that guy and want to get bigger, you have to do something that you probably do not want to do - eat, eat, and eat more....and just accept the fact that you wont see your bottom 2 abdominals.
I dont know what stage you are at.....if you're like 5-10 300# and feel like you're at your genetic limit, I'm inclined to believe you. If you're 5-10 200, I think you need to re-evaluate your nutrition...and most likely your training.