Hgh sensitivity / anti bodies

[hghlover]

I have been using HGH at 4 iu every day for roughly ten months now.

Other forums talk about ideas of EOD protocols or taking a month off every now and then, to avoid cells losing their sensitivity to HGH and the body developing anti bodies to HGH... Any truth to this?

Others say the longer you stay on the Better.. so much conflicting information out there

 

[MuscleFreak]

I have been using HGH at 4 iu every day for roughly ten months now.

Other forums talk about ideas of EOD protocols or taking a month off every now and then, to avoid cells losing their sensitivity to HGH and the body developing anti bodies to HGH... Any truth to this?

Others say the longer you stay on the Better.. so much conflicting information out there

Yeah it's true..i am using HGH for years now and when i do protocols like 6-1 or 5-2 after some time at same dosage my results become worse and worse... since i read more about it and decided to go with EOD works just perfect, progress is always there and i don't hold any water,lean Year round

 

[mands]

I have been using HGH at 4 iu every day for roughly ten months now.

Other forums talk about ideas of EOD protocols or taking a month off every now and then, to avoid cells losing their sensitivity to HGH and the body developing anti bodies to HGH... Any truth to this?

Others say the longer you stay on the Better.. so much conflicting information out there

The biggest reason to take off a month or so or lower dosing is that your blood glucose needs to come back to base line and insulin sensitivity can become and issue.

With that said taking GH can cause antibodies to form. Plenty of cases showing this happening. One case tested 47 subjects and 4 of them created antibodies. These cases showed serum antibodies against GH and rhGH.

It's always good to take some time off of GH and AAS.

mands

 

[lilhawk]

I think a lot of the diminished gains have to do with insulin resistance. As soon as I started using metformin that was all resolved, and haven't had a problem since. I've always used GH daily except for the days when I simply forget to take it, or just don't feel like it. Question is how long can one take metformin? I'm assuming forever, as a lot are using it for anti-aging benefits now.

 

[hghlover]

I think a lot of the diminished gains have to do with insulin resistance. As soon as I started using metformin that was all resolved, and haven't had a problem since. I've always used GH daily except for the days when I simply forget to take it, or just don't feel like it. Question is how long can one take metformin? I'm assuming forever, as a lot are using it for anti-aging benefits now.

Intresting. Anecdotally, for me it seems like the GH is also still working. Some of my injuries is still gaining increased flexibility, even after the 8th month+ mark with daily GH use.

Intrestingly enough, i am actually consuming a daily drop of ceylon Cinnamon oil (cinnamaldehyde) in a capsule. I read a study that cinnamaldehyde increases collagen type 1 and igf 1 sensitivity, altho they looked at skin/dermal, so not too sure about muscle/tendons etc. Altho im sure it has helped my insulin sensitivity, along with cucurmin.

I have never had any BG issues with daily GH dosing

 

[mands]

I think a lot of the diminished gains have to do with insulin resistance. As soon as I started using metformin that was all resolved, and haven't had a problem since. I've always used GH daily except for the days when I simply forget to take it, or just don't feel like it. Question is how long can one take metformin? I'm assuming forever, as a lot are using it for anti-aging benefits now.

Metformin does have side effects and some can be serious but few users have them. Two of the biggest are Anemia and Lactic Acidosis which can cause kidney and liver problems.

I believe for the most part it's relatively safe in the long run.

mands

 

[MuscleFreak]

Metformin does have side effects and some can be serious but few users have them. Two of the biggest are Anemia and Lactic Acidosis which can cause kidney and liver problems.

I believe for the most part it's relatively safe in the long run.

mands

I stop playing with metformin cause after few weeks i even start to get headache and heartburn...

 

[lilhawk]

Metformin does have side effects and some can be serious but few users have them. Two of the biggest are Anemia and Lactic Acidosis which can cause kidney and liver problems.

I believe for the most part it's relatively safe in the long run.

mands

Thanks for the info. It's one of the most prescribed meds by the doctors I work with. Most of them agree it's very beneficial for healthy people as well as individuals that are diabetic.

 

[ToastEater]

I’m interested in this.
My doc says Metformin is a miracle drug.
I’m just keen to get rid of the 10lbs of water I’m carrying from 2iu/day...

 

[jackfrost80]

I’m interested in this.
My doc says Metformin is a miracle drug.
I’m just keen to get rid of the 10lbs of water I’m carrying from 2iu/day...

All about Sodium intake with GH + Potassium/Sodium balance.

 

[hghlover]

All about Sodium intake with GH + Potassium/Sodium balance.

More sodium = more water retention?

 

[jackfrost80]

More sodium = more water retention?

In general yes. One could argue it is the balance of sodium to potassium but i was retaining serious water due to eating probably over 10g sodium a day to the point where i would wake up in the morning fitting into my jeans loosely and by noon afyer high sodium foods have what seemed like fat hanging over my pants/tight pants. It was crazy when i dropped the sodium this stopped. Obviously my example is a bit extreme i was pretty dumb.

 

[hghlover]

In general yes. One could argue it is the balance of sodium to potassium but i was retaining serious water due to eating probably over 10g sodium a day to the point where i would wake up in the morning fitting into my jeans loosely and by noon afyer high sodium foods have what seemed like fat hanging over my pants/tight pants. It was crazy when i dropped the sodium this stopped. Obviously my example is a bit extreme i was pretty dumb.

Good advice.

So I suppose try to avoid too much sodium and carbs? Carbs also bind water right?