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tldr: I’m jay, 47 M. I’m still very obese but not morbidly obese anymore. Looking to cut another 50 pounds, then try to gain muscle. Looking for feedback.


Hi there, I’m Jay. I’m a 47 year old man 5’9, 275. A year ago I weighed 502. Mounjaro was life saving for me. I had many health problems including type 2 diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, thyroid issues, as well as multiple hormonal issues. All of these diseases are now well controlled but I’m on a lot of meds. Bloodwork is vastly improved. Restarted TRT about 3 months ago. Still dialing it in but am feeling much better.


Current protocol:

50 mg Test C eod

350 ius hcg eod

.25 anastrazole eod

.25 cabergoline 1x per week

3.33 ius HGH ed

10 mg Mounjaro (Tirz) every 5 days


HGH is ugl. Insurance pays for 10 mg Mounjaro pens, 1x per week. Going to supplement w ugl.


Originally injected glp every 7 days. Mounjaro had started to lose effectiveness on days 6&7. I tried upping dose to 12.5 mg pens but that didn’t work- first two days couldn’t eat at all then days 6&7 suppression was non existent. Have done every 5 days for a few weeks and it’s much better. Obvious issue is that I will have to supplement with ugl Tirz.


Health is now decent. Bloodwork good, chronic conditions under control. Don’t even snore anymore. Don’t want to compromise health gains.

Main goal is to cut down to 225, then pause and try to put muscle back on.

Nutrition is pretty good. Tirz has really changed the way I eat. I consume 2200 calories, 250 grams protein per day. This is a comfortable deficit.

Training is a work in progress. I work out with a trainer 3 days per week. I lift on my own 1 more time. Push pull split. I walk 15k steps per day, do intense cardio 4x per week. 1 rest day. Am making notable strength increases despite dropping weight.

Questions:
  1. How best to work in the ugl Tirz? I don’t want to stockpile all of the pens in case I need to go up in dose. Have a kit of ten 30 mg vials. Was thinking I’d use two vials, will last 30 days, then use 4 pens, will last 20 days, and repeat?
  2. Any feedback on general strategy of cutting another 50 pounds, then trying to add back muscle? I’ve been at a deficit for so long that I’ve considered trying to just bulk up now. But being this heavy still contributes toward health issues.
  3. Anything else you’d suggest training, nutrition or PED wise I’m all ears. I’ve learned a lot from reading this forum.

Thanks,
Jay
 
Welcome to MESO and congratulations on the progress. Much, if not all of, the information you need is in the various Forum threads. I kind of think of the forums as how to books. It sounds like you’re off to an excellent start.
 
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Congrats on your massive loss! That is an achievement to be proud of.
There's a ton of research that can be done on your own here. But ask here if you have any questions (replying to this thread will "subscribe" me to see any replies) or send a DM once you can.

1. Depends on your preferred method. I don't do pens so I can't offer any help with that. Vials can be stored a long time.
2. Do some research into retatrutide and its effects on GCG receptor. It's a cheat code, a real gamechanger. It can be combined with Tirz or Sema (or even Cagri) if you still need the hunger suppression, but it sounds like you finally have your diet under control.
3. Go slow with the PEDs and AAS stuff until you get your weight exactly where you want it. No need to be in a hurry, and they could really fuck up your loss goals.
 
I’m going to be starting up an accountability/training log in the next few days. I lost a family member this past week and promised them that I’d keep going. I intend to keep that promise.

Is there a special section for this?
 
I’m going to be starting up an accountability/training log in the next few days. I lost a family member this past week and promised them that I’d keep going. I intend to keep that promise.

Is there a special section for this?
There is a sub forum steroid cycle log. You can post a thread there. Many guys add pictures, some don’t. You can ask for critiques of your program and/or physique or ask people to refrain from commenting. The members here are very accommodating and will be willing to help however they can. Just look through some of the existing threads and you’ll know how to get started.

Sorry to hear about the family death and hopefully it can keep you inspired. Good luck
 
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stop taking hgh and why are you taking caber?
I’m curious to hear your thoughts on stopping hgh. My understanding is that in conjunction with trt and a glp1, hgh is another accelerant of weight loss while minimizing muscle loss. My recovery is definitely better. Nagging injuries are much better. And I’ve only been on since mid June.
 
I’m curious to hear your thoughts on stopping hgh. My understanding is that in conjunction with trt and a glp1, hgh is another accelerant of weight loss while minimizing muscle loss. My recovery is definitely better. Nagging injuries are much better. And I’ve only been on since mid June.
hgh is not a weight loss drug, you dont need "improved recovery" from your 3 day a week weightlifting as a fat guy. its all placebo. youre just raising your blood sugar and accelerating acromegoly

i say this because just a few years ago, HGH was only used so people could use insulin and push food, to get bigger. now I see a beginner cycles and fat people using it, because its cheap and they read all the hype from anti aging clinics and medspas
 
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hgh is not a weight loss drug, you dont need "improved recovery" from your 3 day a week weightlifting as a fat guy. its all placebo. youre just raising your blood sugar and accelerating acromegoly

i say this because just a few years ago, HGH was only used so people could use insulin and push food, to get bigger. now I see a beginner cycles and fat people using it, because its cheap and they read all the hype from anti aging clinics and medspas
Appreciate your thoughts.
 

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