Homebrew Tren A, Test P, Mast & D-Bol

[Docd187123]

I reuse my vials whenever possible. Just use a butter knife or fork to take off the cap, wash, sterilize, and reuse.

For 100mg/ml test prop you won't need EO. I try to avoid EO at all costs.

Also it only use 1% BA. No benefit to going higher.

 

[Mairt]

I reuse my vials whenever possible. Just use a butter knife or fork to take off the cap, wash, sterilize, and reuse.

For 100mg/ml test prop you won't need EO. I try to avoid EO at all costs.

Also it only use 1% BA. No benefit to going higher.

Ok Doc thanks for the info. I am very new to homebrewing so I want to get it as right as I can first time around. Why would you avoid using EO for prop? I thought it reduced the viscosity of the mix and gave a smoother shot?

 

[Docd187123]

Ok Doc thanks for the info. I am very new to homebrewing so I want to get it as right as I can first time around. Why would you avoid using EO for prop? I thought it reduced the viscosity of the mix and gave a smoother shot?

I avoid EO for all the gear I make. Some people have very bad allergic reactions to it while others don't. I've seen what it can do to rubber stoppers and plastic when left in contact for a while and I'd rather just avoid any issues by not using it. I just haven't seen enough evidence of it being safe enough with long term use to want me to add it.

 

[Mairt]

I avoid EO for all the gear I make. Some people have very bad allergic reactions to it while others don't. I've seen what it can do to rubber stoppers and plastic when left in contact for a while and I'd rather just avoid any issues by not using it. I just haven't seen enough evidence of it being safe enough with long term use to want me to add it.

My lash batch and test p tren a and mast were made up with EO so I know my reaction to it is ok. From what I have read, some people thing it can improve the concentration of short esters such as prop, acetate and phenylpropionate without them crashing. I read somewhere someone made up 200mg/ml NPP. My first 2 cycles were all GSO and the pip was a bit worse for me. On quad days I might have sore quads for 2-3 days after a jab. Not unbearable just a nuisance.

 

[Mairt]

I've seen what it can do to rubber stoppers and plastic when left in contact for a while and I'd rather just avoid any issues by not using it. I just haven't seen enough evidence of it.

I have heard that also. Apparently it's too good of a solvent but considering I will finish a 10ml in roughly 2 weeks and the vial always being upright, any issue with the stopper would almost be non existant.

 

[Mairt]

Here is a link (Rubber Chemical Resistance, Rubber Chemical Compatibility, Page 4 - Mykin Inc) to a page I got some information about EO and how it interacts with other materials. The 2 pictures below also came from the Pharmaceutical Chemistry Journal - October 1977, Volume 11, Issue 10, pp 1413-1415. This is what convinced me to use EO in the brew. I could be way wrong in doing so but I've already bought the damn stuff lol.

 

[Docd187123]

My lash batch and test p tren a and mast were made up with EO so I know my reaction to it is ok. From what I have read, some people thing it can improve the concentration of short esters such as prop, acetate and phenylpropionate without them crashing. I read somewhere someone made up 200mg/ml NPP. My first 2 cycles were all GSO and the pip was a bit worse for me. On quad days I might have sore quads for 2-3 days after a jab. Not unbearable just a nuisance.

But you're only making test prop at 100mg/ml from what I read in the OP. That's not high enough to NEED EO.

 

[Docd187123]

I have heard that also. Apparently it's too good of a solvent but considering I will finish a 10ml in roughly 2 weeks and the vial always being upright, any issue with the stopper would almost be non existant.

I forget how long it took the EO to eat the stoppers in the vials that it came in but it was a matter of weeks not months.

 

[Mairt]

I understand your argument. I wast tempted to push the mg/ml size up but I would be increasing any possible pip and from what i read, 100mg/ml of tren a is just asking for death by tren cough. I have no personal experience with 100mg tren a but what i read does not sound at all appealing.

 

[Mairt]

I could run a small experiment myself to find out how fast EO can dissolve a butyl stopper. If it was 2 weeks or thereabouts then I wouldn't even think of using it.

 

[bonacris]

Hey mairt. No need for EO. It makes injections smoother but it's a horrible thing. If it does that to rubber imagine what it's doing to the inside of your body..

Welcome to the world of homebrew. I'm in galway. Where you living

 

[Mairt]

Hey mairt. No need for EO. It makes injections smoother but it's a horrible thing. If it does that to rubber imagine what it's doing to the inside of your body..

Welcome to the world of homebrew. I'm in galway. Where you living

Fuck off!!! I'm in Galway too . Thanks btw

 

[bonacris]

Fuck off!!! I'm in Galway too . Thanks btw

What gym you train at?

 

[Docd187123]

I understand your argument. I wast tempted to push the mg/ml size up but I would be increasing any possible pip and from what i read, 100mg/ml of tren a is just asking for death by tren cough. I have no personal experience with 100mg tren a but what i read does not sound at all appealing.

I've used tren a 100mg/ml by a private UGL that does not use EO. No tren cough. I've made my own tren e @ 250mg/ml, again no tren cough.

Edit* if you want to use EO go for it. All I'm saying is I personally don't use it and won't use it.

 

[Mairt]

Bonacris I have read it's very safe for use in the body. Some medical companies use it in progesterone injections for pregnant women so if it's safe for a fetus it's ok for me. Also the body produces it's own EO when you drink alcohol. It's rapidly broken down by the digestive track and also faster absorbing into muscular tissue than pure oil mixtures such as GSO or CSO. This would lead me to believe your short ester will kick in faster?

 

[Mairt]

I've used tren a 100mg/ml by a private UGL that does not use EO. No tren cough. I've made my own tren e @ 250mg/ml, again no tren cough.

Edit* if you want to use EO go for it. All I'm saying is I personally don't use it and won't use it.

That's interesting doc. I could just make up 1 10ml vial of 100mg/ml and see how I react. I guess everyone's different too. 95% of my tren injections had no cough.

Bonacris I train in the kingfisher because I am currently studying in NUI. Would love to be able to use the warehouse or GCG though.

 

[bonacris]

That's interesting doc. I could just make up 1 10ml vial of 100mg/ml and see how I react. I guess everyone's different too. 95% of my tren injections had no cough.

Bonacris I train in the kingfisher because I am currently studying in NUI. Would love to be able to use the warehouse or GCG though.

I personally don't like EO. I break out in hard red lumps. Not acne but lumps with nothing in them.

Gcg is solid trained there once or twice. Trained in kingfisher once. Didn't like it too crowded at 2 in the day.

 

[Mairt]

I personally don't like EO. I break out in hard red lumps. Not acne but lumps with nothing in them.

Gcg is solid trained there once or twice. Trained in kingfisher once. Didn't like it too crowded at 2 in the day.

Yeah GCG is probably the best but for convenience and price I use kingfisher. I always hit the gym early so you won't find many students there at that time. It can get busy in the afternoon and evenings.

 

[bonacris]

Yeah GCG is probably the best but for convenience and price I use kingfisher. I always hit the gym early so you won't find many students there at that time. It can get busy in the afternoon and evenings.

I can imagine. Do you compete? What source did you use for you raws

 

[T_verde77]

Yeah I'm not pushing myself at all. Max 25kg dumbells right now. I might be able to stretch my budget to get some CJC 1295 - no DAC. I've read this would greatly increase my recovery. Have you had any experience using it?

Never looked into cjc. I used some tb500 for my elbow. Seemed to help some