homebrew with ethyl oleate

[rapoza]

what is the concentration of ethyl oleate should I put in 100ml of a testosterone enanthate 200mg/ml. I make B.B with 20% and B.A 2% . the ethyl oleate replaces B.B? anyone have a reliable source to get ethyl oleate?

 

[calvare2]

Ethyl othelate replaces half of the oil you would put in.

 

[psilikon]

I used EO as the only oil in a couple of brews I did. Next time I think i'll keep it at 50%. I'm a little concerned about using 100% EO and would love to hear any input anyone has regarding EO as the primary carrier oil.

You can get EO anywhere online. Can I just post the site or would that violate a rule I am not aware of? Literally google 'ethyl oleate USP' and you'll get the place I use and recommend for all carrier oils and solvents.

**the concern I have is that supposedly EO, since it's such a 'good' solvent will actually cause rubber stopper to deteriorate. Then I guess you'd end up injecting a small amount of dissolved rubber stopper. That's kinda scary. Maybe if the oil never touched the stopper and you don't turn the vial upside-down to draw a dose you would be good but I shake my vials and then turn them upside down each draw.

I don't know if this is true and I am simply repeating what I read on the interwebz. Maybe someone else can confirm.

 

[rapoza]

man, I do not quite understand, you said I should use 50% ethyl oleate, but this information was rather vague. let's say I produce my products so:

100ml

20 ml Benzyl benzoate
2 ml benzyl alcohol
30 ml Testosterone Enanthate
24 ml of sesame oil
24 ml of grapeseed oil

My Duvia would be, which of the above ingredients should I substituted by ethyl oleate?

50% you speak, would look like? :

100ml

48 ml ethyl oleate
2 ml benzyl alcohol
30 ml of testosterone enanthate
10 ml of sesame oil
10 ml grape seed oil


my reasoning this right ?

 

[psilikon]

man, I do not quite understand, you said I should use 50% ethyl oleate, but this information was rather vague. let's say I produce my products so:

100ml

20 ml Benzyl benzoate
2 ml benzyl alcohol
30 ml Testosterone Enanthate
24 ml of sesame oil
24 ml of grapeseed oil

My Duvia would be, which of the above ingredients should I substituted by ethyl oleate?

50% you speak, would look like? :

100ml

48 ml ethyl oleate
2 ml benzyl alcohol
30 ml of testosterone enanthate
10 ml of sesame oil
10 ml grape seed oil


my reasoning this right ?

No more like this:
100ml

20 ml Benzyl benzoate
2 ml benzyl alcohol
30 ml Testosterone Enanthate
24 ml of sesame oil
24 ml of grapeseed oil <---- drop this an replace with 24mL EO

Why not just stick with one carrier oil. Use GSO it's cheap doesn't go rancid and is tried and true. Just my personal preference here so do what you want. There is no reason you can't use both sesame and gso.


So basically keep everything the same but replace half the carrier oil volume with EO.

I'd look here: http://www.everydayfitness.net/steroid-powder-calculator.html

For Test E at 200mg/mL you are going to need 61 mL of carrier oil (With your levels of BA and BB). So that would be 30.5mL of GSO or Sesame and 30.5mL of EO.

 

[rapoza]

which is GSO?

 

[psilikon]

which is GSO?

Grapeseed Oil. Grapeseed oil is really common in underground lab brews. Cottonseed oil is probably the second most common.

GSO = Grapeseed Oil
CSO = Cottonseed Oil
EO = Ethyl Oleate

 

[rapoza]

muito bom meu amigo, você me ajudou muito! grateful

[QUOTE = "psilikon, pós: 1046321, membro: 63842"] óleo de uva. Óleo de semente de uva é muito comum em cervejas laboratório subterrâneo. Óleo de algodão é, provavelmente, o segundo mais comum.

GSO = óleo de uva
CSO = Óleo de algodão
EO = Ethyl Oleate [/ QUOTE]

 

[psilikon]

muito bom meu amigo, você me ajudou muito! grateful

[QUOTE = "psilikon, pós: 1046321, membro: 63842"] óleo de uva. Óleo de semente de uva é muito comum em cervejas laboratório subterrâneo. Óleo de algodão é, provavelmente, o segundo mais comum.

GSO = óleo de uva
CSO = Óleo de algodão
EO = Ethyl Oleate [/ QUOTE]

I am glad I can help you out my Portuguese speaking friend. Where are you from? Brasil???

 

[rapoza]

I am glad I can help you out my Portuguese speaking friend. Where are you from? Brasil???

i am brazilian, and you ? do you are American? on which state you are?

 

[psilikon]

Florida

 

[calfcramp]

EO is bad on filters. 50% will melt them. It tastes bad when injected too. I use Nature's Way, coconut MCT oil. Nice and thin and clear and healthy.

 

[beedix]

EO filters fine with PVDF filters. There hasn't been long term data showing it's unhealthy from what I have seen...only a relatively short study indicated it was safe for injection.

Sometimes EO is a good option but I would agree that sticking to a standard carrier is preferable if the recipe can hold without EO.

 

[TokSik]

I use only EO in my brews (but they're solely for my own use). However, I heard that rumour that EO dissolves rubber and plastics. So I did a test by putting a syringe and a nylon syringe filter (complete, with EO inside it as well as sitting it in a jar of EO) and left them in the jar for a month. I tried heating them all up in my microwave till the EO was boiling. There was never a single bit of change with any of the components of either the syringe or filter. So the rumour is bunk.
I've never had any problem with EO, and I really prefer it as there's no pain (I put 600mg of Sustanon per ml, and 400mg of Nandrolone decanoate (Deca) per ml) when or after I inject it. Nothing crashes out of solution inside my arse cheek after a jab. Go figure

 

[Leancuisine]

Get PVDF filters and stoppers if you use EO.

I get testE to hold at 400 with no EO Why has EO for such a small dose?

I would use GSO as the carrier oil. Seems to hold better. You also don't need 20% BB. You could do 15%. Some people do no BB for such a low dose.

 

[BuryMeBig]

Ideally you want to use PTFE filters, but yes PVDF is your next best option.

For Test E, I use 8-10% B.B
1.5% B.A
50/50 of cotton seed oil and sesame. It's a great mix!
If you want to, you can also mix 50% of your total oil used with either EO or MCT so say your oil requires 100ml of an oil of your choice, as follows:
-50ml of EO or MCT (You can even split that 50/50 as well, 25ml MCT, and 25ml EO)
-25ml of sesame
-25ml cotton seed
but for Test E neither EO or MCT is necessary unless you prefer it to be water thin.

Why I do this mix? It's one of a kind

Yes, EO will slowly deteriorate rubber stoppers as well as the rubber plungers in the syringe. If you want to avoid this, purchase silicone stoppers.