How do you break a Plateau during Cycling?

[LockTheRock]

I've been running t400, Npp, and DHB for 2months..
Now I knocked off the NPP and still run 3-4ml of t400 a week and the same with DHB.
I've gained 25lbs.. and am at the Plateau stage I always get to.. Any ideas on how to break it? I've started heavy rotation on legs instead of once a week I'm doing twice now.. has that been the problem?

 

[Eman]

Week 8 tends to be the point at which gains start to stall.

Increasing calories, inserting an oral, increasing dosage or a combination thereof are all options.

 

[JackSmooth]

What’s your cycle look like?

 

[LockTheRock]

What’s your cycle look like?

It was 300ml or Npp, 300ml DHB , 400ml T400
now its 3.5ml DHB and 3.5ml T400
Every week

 

[LockTheRock]

Week 8 tends to be the point at which gains start to stall.

Increasing calories, inserting an oral, increasing dosage or a combination thereof are all options.

thanks for the advice

 

[rester]

whats your goal? you gained 25lb, you want more? eat more. Your maintenance calories are higher now than ur 25lb lighter u.

 

[rester]

also this is probably the wrong forum for this thread

 

[LockTheRock]

whats your goal? you gained 25lb, you want more? eat more. Your maintenance calories are higher now than ur 25lb lighter u.

I'd like to see a 40lbs gain.. it's far from my first cycle.. I was taking pain killers for my back and was at this size when I started taking them. So basically, some of that weight I put on was because I'm off the painkillers. I'm eating clean and eating for purpose not pleasure.

 

[picholas]

Week 8 tends to be the point at which gains start to stall.

Increasing calories, inserting an oral, increasing dosage or a combination thereof are all options.

Inserting an oral? So a suppository! Got it, thanks bro!

 

[Steve84]

Just like when you cut for a competition your diet shouldn't be static.
Always moving forward with you. When you plateau you adjust diet to break that.

Unless you are Rich, and you dump on the juice on top of it as well.... Which I like that idea

 

[Demondosage]

It's a constant process of stepping back and running idle for a bit, then pushing the pedal to the metal in phases or "blocks" as I call them. I never gained more than 23 lbs in a single cycle. I'd back off and then back on is when I'd push it harder. But to steadily just keep gaining? That shit stops once you are a vet gym goer. All aboit blast and cruise with your food on top of gear and hard and heavy training. If you keep going nonstop in just one direction you're eventually gonna get injured or stay stuck in a rut. The answer for me was never ridiculous doses of gear, it was ridiculous amounts of food when pushing gear to grow more. The process of eating and then backing off creates "anabolic overdrive" where you gain back what you were at AND THEN A LITTLE MORE on top of that in future cycles. Gear is all secondary to food, training and rest and recovery.dudes wanna put juice as #1 now, and every guy I know personally who does this isn't a really big guy. It's the fuckers eating like it's their job that end up the biggest

 

[Steve84]

It's a constant process of stepping back and running idle for a bit, then pushing the pedal to the metal in phases or "blocks" as I call them. I never gained more than 23 lbs in a single cycle. I'd back off and then back on is when I'd push it harder. But to steadily just keep gaining? That shit stops once you are a vet gym goer. All aboit blast and cruise with your food on top of gear and hard and heavy training. If you keep going nonstop in just one direction you're eventually gonna get injured or stay stuck in a rut. The answer for me was never ridiculous doses of gear, it was ridiculous amounts of food when pushing gear to grow more. The process of eating and then backing off creates "anabolic overdrive" where you gain back what you were at AND THEN A LITTLE MORE on top of that in future cycles. Gear is all secondary to food, training and rest and recovery.dudes wanna put juice as #1 now, and every guy I know personally who does this isn't a really big guy. It's the fuckers eating like it's their job that end up the biggest

It's true....

You know I run programs for other people track their results watch their scale and adjust when they plateau.

What I do horrible for myself is keeping my diet static because it's not written down in front of me. Because I know how much I eat and when to eat it.

You need to log and track that shit... see the macro's you are taking in. Add food with the spreadsheet first and then implement. Plan and execute.

The diet makes and breaks anything. Eventually you take too many drugs to counter other drugs.

 

[LockTheRock]

It's a constant process of stepping back and running idle for a bit, then pushing the pedal to the metal in phases or "blocks" as I call them. I never gained more than 23 lbs in a single cycle. I'd back off and then back on is when I'd push it harder. But to steadily just keep gaining? That shit stops once you are a vet gym goer. All aboit blast and cruise with your food on top of gear and hard and heavy training. If you keep going nonstop in just one direction you're eventually gonna get injured or stay stuck in a rut. The answer for me was never ridiculous doses of gear, it was ridiculous amounts of food when pushing gear to grow more. The process of eating and then backing off creates "anabolic overdrive" where you gain back what you were at AND THEN A LITTLE MORE on top of that in future cycles. Gear is all secondary to food, training and rest and recovery.dudes wanna put juice as #1 now, and every guy I know personally who does this isn't a really big guy. It's the fuckers eating like it's their job that end up the biggest

AWESOME
That's some really great advice.. I appreciate the time u spent to write that down bro. I'll take your advice and back off .. keep up with the food then go hard again.. I'm already at the end of the freeweight rack at the gym.. what you're saying makes complete sense!

 

[LockTheRock]

It's true....

You know I run programs for other people track their results watch their scale and adjust when they plateau.

What I do horrible for myself is keeping my diet static because it's not written down in front of me. Because I know how much I eat and when to eat it.

You need to log and track that shit... see the macro's you are taking in. Add food with the spreadsheet first and then implement. Plan and execute.

The diet makes and breaks anything. Eventually you take too many drugs to counter other drugs.

I definitely have to up my Intake. I heard Rich Piana (RIP) say once.. you wanna gain size.. u dont eat for pleasure anymore.. you eat for Purpose!..
thanks for the advice as well!

 

[Steve84]

I definitely have to up my Intake. I heard Rich Piana (RIP) say once.. you wanna gain size.. u dont eat for pleasure anymore.. you eat for Purpose!..
thanks for the advice as well!

Fucking miss him, but he also juiced like a horse hahahaha

I just found I'm not at my peak if I'm not seeing it on paper.

 

[TorroXL]

Week 8 tends to be the point at which gains start to stall.

Increasing calories, inserting an oral, increasing dosage or a combination thereof are all options.

^^^^ this.
All good stuff. The oral and nutrition will be most effective ime

 

[TorroXL]

It's a constant process of stepping back and running idle for a bit, then pushing the pedal to the metal in phases or "blocks" as I call them. I never gained more than 23 lbs in a single cycle. I'd back off and then back on is when I'd push it harder. But to steadily just keep gaining? That shit stops once you are a vet gym goer. All aboit blast and cruise with your food on top of gear and hard and heavy training. If you keep going nonstop in just one direction you're eventually gonna get injured or stay stuck in a rut. The answer for me was never ridiculous doses of gear, it was ridiculous amounts of food when pushing gear to grow more. The process of eating and then backing off creates "anabolic overdrive" where you gain back what you were at AND THEN A LITTLE MORE on top of that in future cycles. Gear is all secondary to food, training and rest and recovery.dudes wanna put juice as #1 now, and every guy I know personally who does this isn't a really big guy. It's the fuckers eating like it's their job that end up the biggest

Food is more anabolic then gear. I like what you preach brutha. I’m fortunate to have an ability to eat unholy amounts of foods. It has helped me tremendously before gear

 

[PIZZABOY]

Take a break. Don't re injure yourself. Gotta eat more. Then back to the grind with a new workout you came up with taking that week off.

 

[Streetfighter V4]

It's a constant process of stepping back and running idle for a bit, then pushing the pedal to the metal in phases or "blocks" as I call them. I never gained more than 23 lbs in a single cycle. I'd back off and then back on is when I'd push it harder. But to steadily just keep gaining? That shit stops once you are a vet gym goer. All aboit blast and cruise with your food on top of gear and hard and heavy training. If you keep going nonstop in just one direction you're eventually gonna get injured or stay stuck in a rut. The answer for me was never ridiculous doses of gear, it was ridiculous amounts of food when pushing gear to grow more. The process of eating and then backing off creates "anabolic overdrive" where you gain back what you were at AND THEN A LITTLE MORE on top of that in future cycles. Gear is all secondary to food, training and rest and recovery.dudes wanna put juice as #1 now, and every guy I know personally who does this isn't a really big guy. It's the fuckers eating like it's their job that end up the biggest

Bro i had a question regarding something u posted abt slin, how can i pm u? Its limited thank you!


Sorry for bumping the old thread, didnt even notice the date

 

[balco]

Food is more anabolic then gear. I like what you preach brutha. I’m fortunate to have an ability to eat unholy amounts of foods. It has helped me tremendously before gear

TIL food is more anabolic than gear [emoji2962]