Worf
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Friend of mine tells his shit like that too. Tells her if he’s doin a show and what stuff he uses. I tell mine I’m on trt and that’s it
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How do YOU run your steroid cycles for Powerlifting?
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Btcowboy
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Yeah been with mine over 20yrs so dont keep much from her
Ridethelightningbarefoot
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I was thinking about running 700mg pw npp for my next cycle. I am 230lb and have been running 300t and 725bold cyp. Does anyone have any experience running high npp?
Have you ever run NPP before?
I’m 270 lbs and running NPP at 500. It’s my favorite compound other than testosterone. 700 mg/wk is a little on the high side. Everyone reacts differently. Some guys swear that you need equal or higher test to prevent deca dick. Others say a TRT dose is enough to prevent any issues. The good thing about NPP is it’s a short ester so you can make adjustments as necessary.
Ridethelightningbarefoot
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I have not run npp before. I was doing 1000mg of test and would get random dizzy spells and tons of painful acne. At 500 it's a little less but 300 test is bearable.
Dizzy may be blood pressure related. High doses of any compound can cause that.
Start your NPP at 350-400. You can always bump it up from there but it’s quick acting so you should see fast progress.
Ridethelightningbarefoot
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I know a lot of people consider boldenone weak so this may be a weird question but do you think I will lose going from 1gram of gear to well under that?
No. Not much. As long as you eat the same and maintain your lifts. You should be fine on TRT levels. It’s frustrating because you won’t see the same strength or muscle gains but you shouldn’t lose much. If I hit a PR, I don’t focus on being able to hit that on a cruise again, but focus on maintaining the same volume and weight.
Look at is as “2 steps forward” on blast and “one step back” on cruise (or even less than that). Get yourself healthy, give yourself a little break (as opposed to constantly pushing forward and hammering) and get in a good position for the next blast.
Guys that think they need more than TRT or need to add another compound aren’t progressing much further/faster than strict TRT level cruises.
Worf
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This is absolutely true. I’ve made some damn good progress on cruises and although I’m not at an elite level I don’t see why it wouldn’t apply to most in the PL side. Most of the progress that can be made isn’t just from how much shit can be put in a syringe and shot in a guys ass cheek. Programming, blocks, phases, undulating, MRV etc. All that boring shit. It is invaluable to a powerlifter. Save the blasts for meet preps and get training in order at all times same with nutrition. If a guy wants to lift big numbers there has to be consistent Improvement by way of periodization.
Completely agree. This was something that I struggled a lot with in the beginning. I saw an interview with I believe it was Stan Efferding, discussing his mentality on blast vs. cruise and how he compared his cruise numbers vs cruise numbers and blasts vs blast and tried to progress in each over time. If he got his cruise bench to 20 lbs more than on his previous cruise he knew he had put himself in a good position for his upcoming blast. He also used cruises to focus on health and build up lagging muscle groups or injuries for structural balance.
I can try to find the interview to post if anyone has interest, for me it helped a lot with my mindset. I dont know how everyone here feels about him, but I have always admired his focus on getting strong on basic lifts and dialing in nutrition and recovery.
Psyllium&Toilet
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Since this thread has already been resurrected, I'd like offer a different calculation regarding nandrolone availability related to different esters. An excerpt from a different forum:
"nandrolone phenylpropionate doesn’t seem to be as short estered as people think. The molar mass of nandrolone is 274.404g/mol (6.022x10^23 molecules (very big number) is a mole, and a mole of base nandrolone weighs 274.404 grams. Nandrolone PHENYLPROPIONATE has a molar mass of
406.566g/mol so 274.404/406.566=0.67 so 67 MG’s per 100mg of NPP is pure nandrolone, with the remaining 33mg compromised of the ester. 600mg of deca is not going to give you the same amount of gains as 200mg NPP, that’s not how science works, you need the same amount of pure base hormone to get the same effect, and even then it needs to be released over the same period of time for the effects to be exactly the same
Nandrolone decanoates molar mass is 428.657g/mol
428.657/274.404=0.64 therefore theoretically 64 mg/100mg nandrolone decanoate is pure nandrolone while the rest is compromised of ester weight. Therefore theoretically PP ester isn’t nearly as short estered as people think, however it is a shorter ester than decanoate"
