How does this cycle look like?

[CaliforniaKid]

Hey guys, 27 years old, running my first cycle. Started at 6´2 180lbs 12%bf, now 6 weeks in at 6´2 192lbs, 9%bf.

Started on a 3500cal/day 50P/30C/20F but decided to cut carbs a little because wasn't getting as lean as I wanted. Now feeling a tad hungry (which I like)


12 weeks
1000mg Bayer Nebido on 2nd day of 1st week and again on 10th week.
25mg Test Prop EOD
50mg Deca EW
100mg Primobolan EW
15mg Oral Winny ED
25mg Proviron ED
4IUs HGH ED

Before/After pics attached.

Any inputs?

 

[hotdog23]

I do not understand your dosages. Some of those compounds have some merit at low dose but most is just.. Complicated. Why did you use nebido? When are u starting pct? 2015?

You could of gotten these results with much less, but great work so far

 

[demonxp]

I see you got a nice Tan!

 

[Ozzy619]

I agree with hotdog, why such low doses and why so many compounds? I understand the 1000mgs of nebido on the front end of your cycle, but why the 10th week as well? Im not hounding on you or anything I just have never seen a stack like this and want to know the reasoning behind it. And for your first cycle I would hold off on the deca, even though is super low.

 

[CaliforniaKid]

Hey brothers, thank you for the replies. I appreciate your inputs.
The cycle was designed by my coach (Gary Strydom) whom I asked a lighter first cycle to test the waters and see how things went.
The Nebido is something I plan on continuing since my T levels were low (I experienced all those gnarly symptoms) and this sense of well-being I've had for the past few weeks has to go on
Ozzy, would you drop the Deca because of side effects?
Once again thanks guys for your time.

 

[hotdog23]

Maybe idk much about it but your before pictures certainly didn't look like u had low test... But how u feel is important. U understand that staying on after this cycle is more or less a lifelong decision right? Which is fine, understanding what comes with it. IMO test e, c, or P are a better trt esters - being shorter they are easier to make adjustments with.

 

[CaliforniaKid]

Hotdog, thanks again man for your input. It means a lot.
You mean test e, c or p in comparison with Nebido?
I'm definitely gonna run some tests after my cycle to determine if I'm gonna stick with the TRT. It's definitely a big dilemma.
In your opinion what would be the pros and cons of each and what would you personally do?

As for my low T I had several symptoms such as fatigue, low libido, mood swings, which again can be cause by a number of things I'm aware.

 

[TANGO.ECHO.KILO]

Why do I feel like I know you from somewhere....
I hate that. I will PM you in 3 months when I figure it out

 

[CaliforniaKid]

T.E.K. are you from California? Maybe you've seen me around the gym ;P

 

[HuckingFuge]

all AAS have a minimum effective dose. everything but the Test is too low for results from those compounds.

 

[hotdog23]

Hotdog, thanks again man for your input. It means a lot.
You mean test e, c or p in comparison with Nebido?
I'm definitely gonna run some tests after my cycle to determine if I'm gonna stick with the TRT. It's definitely a big dilemma.
In your opinion what would be the pros and cons of each and what would you personally do?

As for my low T I had several symptoms such as fatigue, low libido, mood swings, which again can be cause by a number of things I'm aware.

I think you should drop the nebido shot in week 10 and use test prop the remainder of cycle. Run a full pct for 4-6 weeks and then get blood tests done 5-6 weeks after that. If results come back low or you feel like shit after the cycle the consider trt.

Pros:
-Good test levels rest of your life
- blast/cruise instead of pct

Cons:
-constant blood work
-pinning rest of life
- possible fertility issues (can remain fertile on trt but it takes $$$ ~2-3 grand/yr
- you gotta buy gear,ancillaries, and bloodwork

 

[4leafclover]

@hotdog23 Stupid question, I've never heard of nebido, what the hell does it do?

 

[hotdog23]

@hotdog23 Stupid question, I've never heard of nebido, what the hell does it do?

Not stupid. I thinks it's brand name testosterone undecanoate.. So it might b pharma grade but it's got a half life of 30 days so 1000mg shot will keep u shutdown/suppressed for like 3 months

 

[hotdog23]

Gonna shoot u a 'like'

 

[Ozzy619]

Not stupid. I thinks it's brand name testosterone undecanoate.. So it might b pharma grade but it's got a half life of 30 days so 1000mg shot will keep u shutdown/suppressed for like 3 months

Yes, its just a pharma grade. I don't think he should take it at 10 weeks either with a half life that long. I also don't think it would be my first choice for front loading a cycle. I think its a better choice for trt purposes for people who don't want to pin all the time. I would personally never add it into my own cycle.

Hey brothers, thank you for the replies. I appreciate your inputs.
The cycle was designed by my coach (Gary Strydom) whom I asked a lighter first cycle to test the waters and see how things went.
The Nebido is something I plan on continuing since my T levels were low (I experienced all those gnarly symptoms) and this sense of well-being I've had for the past few weeks has to go on
Ozzy, would you drop the Deca because of side effects?
Once again thanks guys for your time.

I think you should keep your first cycle alot simpler. Deca stays in your system for a long ass time. I wont take it anymore because last time it shut down my libido for longer than I like. I dont think youre going to get gains from the Deca but I do think its enough to shut you down. And I agree with huckinhfuge the your test dose is too low to see any real results. I just don't think you're going to get much out of this cycle. You could get a lot more by only running 500mgs of test a week and winny at the end.

 

[CaliforniaKid]

Got it guys.
Not sure if it's the Test, or the Nebido but I've been getting morningwoods every fucking day. And this hadn't happened in years.

 

[Ozzy619]

Got it guys.
Not sure if it's the Test, or the Nebido but I've been getting morningwoods every fucking day. And this hadn't happened in years.

Get used to it, it should be that way your whole cycle. It actually gets annoying, feeling like you're 13 all over again and shit. Good luck at the gym when a hottie rolls by.

 

[FuriousWO]

Got it guys.
Not sure if it's the Test, or the Nebido but I've been getting morningwoods every fucking day. And this hadn't happened in years.

And....?