How Does this look for 1st cycle?

[superman15]

Ok for my first cycle i am going to take 20 mg of Dianabol a day, and 400mg Test cyp or enth for about 6 weeks. I will use 23 gauge and 1 1/2 in needle. I am still working on my pct. What size of syringe do i need to get though? 3cc, 2cc. What does that mean? do i need to use different syringes for every injection. How does all this look so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

 

[disinterment]

i would extend your cycle for 10wks instead of 6wks.I would also bump the dbols to 30mg if not 20mg is fine too.most 23g come in 3cc.you will need to use a different needle everytime you inject i would also use a different syringe too.Just to keep things clean plus they are very cheap.use clomid for PCT.

 

[John G.]

some data would be good, size and weight etc.

I personally wouldn t use any 17 aa steroids, if I don t want to compete in the future.
there are a lot of good other steroids that are not as harmful.

 

[superman15]

What are your suggestions then. I am 6'3, 200 lbs.

 

[John G.]

on first cycle you ll make good gains anyways, no need for high dosage or three steroids at the same time.

take some test 250 mg every 5 days and throw in some deca 200 mg every 5 days.

test for 14 weeks deca for 12 weeks.

 

[THL]

What are your suggestions then. I am 6'3, 200 lbs.

My suggestion would be to do some more research before you take any AAS. Read the articles on this site as well as some of the other sites on the net. You should have a good idea what you are doing well before you start.

For instance, you say you want to use test for 6 weeks. Why 6? 8-10 would
be much better.

Any ideas for post cycle recovery? If not, plan on losing everything you gain shortly after you go off.

What is the strength (mg/ml) of the test you plan on using? That should tell
you how big of a syringe you will need. If your test is 200mg/ml, than 3cc (or ml) would give you 600mg of test. And yes, you should use a brand new one every time. 23g 1 1/2" works good for glute shots and 25g 1" is fine for quads. Make sure you use proper injection technique also.

I'm not trying to discourage you bro, just don't want you to fuck yourself up.

 

[superman15]

I am getting great info, but why should i not take test cyp and Dbol. What would work better?. I Dont understand why this wouldnt work well, whats the prob? Any help would be appreciated. thanks.

 

[vegas]

Listen to what THL said. See the words Super Mod under his name. These are the guys that have been around and will give you good advice when you ask, and the truth when you need it most. Peace.....Vegas

 

[joe shmoe]

test and d-bols will work great together. i think what the other guys were saying is that you can make real good gains and keep it simple.

too bad you didnt want to continue our lesson from last time. if you had, you would have known the answers to these questions. test cyp/enanthate for 6 weeks bro? kind of a waste.

have a nice day

 

[Clydesdale]

Do the test for at least 8 weeks. I also recommend some anti-e's. For most shots I use 25g 1", and for ass shots I go 1 1/2".

 

[LuvMuhRoids]

In my opinion, for a novice user, atleast youre on the right track and using test only. Do a test cycle only at 10 weeks see how you like it. Dont use anything else including dbol. You dont know how you will even react to the test let alone a 17aa drug like dbol that is highly toxic to the liver and aromatizes quickly and converts to estrogen like it does.

I'll tell ya what, if you didnt understand that last sentence I just kicked out then like the the mod above said. Read up and do some research. Dont stick anything in your body you dont understand. Doing an enanthate or cyp cycle for only 6 weeks is a waste. It takes up to 4 weeks just to feel the affects of the test. No sooner will you be coming off.

Always have proper PCT and ancillaries on hand. Clomid for post recovery and Nolvadex for sides and recovery. Study clomid and what it does. Also study nolva and why it is a must in every cycle. There are other anti-estrogen products and anti-armotizers as well. Stick to the basics learn these two.

In my sig I have links that are very informational. I suggest you read them. They are on injections, administration techniques, needles, clomid, nolva, etc... Use the search button and type in key words you dont understand yet.

Im sure there are a number of posts on any subject you have a mind on. Remember the key to a cycle is consistancy. Keep constant plasma levels through out by even injections through out the week. Spikes in test levels will cause side affects and hinder proper gains. Also, reach the saturation phase and hold it there as long as possible.

For a novice cycle I would recommend 500mg of test Enanthate or Cypionate. Something like this.

1-10 Test E/C 500mg ew
Comid waiting for PCT and nolva on hand. Run Clomid two weeks after last week of test administration. Like this 300mg on day 1; then use 100mg for the next 10 days; followed by 50mg for 10 days. Run 20mg of nolvadex through out. As long as you were on stay off and start again but come back for a critique and we will see about uping the dosage and what to add for you.

 

[demeurj]

Ok for my first cycle i am going to take 20 mg of Dianabol a day, and 400mg Test cyp or enth for about 6 weeks. I will use 23 gauge and 1 1/2 in needle. I am still working on my pct. What size of syringe do i need to get though? 3cc, 2cc. What does that mean? do i need to use different syringes for every injection. How does all this look so far. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

There's a lot of SOLID advice at MesoRx . . . along with a few quacks. You should read Phreezer and Bob Smith stickies. Then you can ask informed questions about your particular situation. On the otherhand, if you just follow their recommendations you are GUARANTEED gains (assuming your diet, training, and sleep are dialed in).

I'm a newbie and admittedly my first "proposed" cycle looked a lot like yours. Instead I got great advice from some sage minds at MesoRx. Now I'm less than a month into a cycle of EQ/Sust . . . nice gains, no bloat, moving mad iron, and . . . people in the gym (and the hospital) are starting to notice. Get your PCT and your grocery store frequent buyer card ready . . .