How I Managed to Get SCAMMED As the Seller

[Turkish Pharmacy]

Hello fellow Meso members, I will tell you a short story about how I managed to get scammed as a seller. I know it sounds strange but this guy might be professional so I wanted to warn everyone (especially other sources) about him. I have spoken to @mands about this before the thread, he said I may open up the topic here I hope its not against any rule to reveal a scammer.

Also this scammer still has the chance to pay if he doesnt, I will reveal ALL info about him here. Now I will send ss without the mail or name details.

Normally I am very careful about client discretion, I regularly delete previous orders fro my mails and system and I even had some problems due to that as there were people who manted to make re-order or were expecting me to have their previous adress details which I didnt have due to that security measure I am trying to take. But this guy is a scammer he deserves everything in my opinion.

So our story starts with this guy when he makes a medium sized order and sends payment details,


Here as you see he says he is from Meso but didnt give his Meso name so I am not sure if he is a member or just a person who reads the forum. I am pretty sure that he will be trying to hammer me here so we will hopefully understand who he is

After this payment was processed without a problem and shipping was sent

Here he showed a bit of a problematic buyer sign but no big deal, I am aware its not easy to order stuff overseas and send that amount of transfer.



Then, the shipping stayed in customs for a while, I have sent it with EMS which is rapid shipping that lasts about one week mostly but rarely (%5 chance) when postal service is overloaded, they take them to customs as an excuse to make them wait and later they go out, it doesnt mean the shipping is seized even if it was seized I reship free of charge for all orders from USA, UK, Spain, Greece, France and many other countries.



Among these mails, our scammer guys sends me a few mails demanding reship againand again and he didnt care about my assurance that the shipping would arrive without a problem. The same day after I made the reship, his first package started to move again. He could just reject second one and it would be returned but he wanted to get it too and agreed to pay 275 usd instead of 330 usd which was the original price of the shipping and I also sent plenty of extra stuff with discount to make up for latency.




Then I keep on writing him about the issue and waiting for him to do his part but he doesnt respond, when I say I will publish his name, he suddenly gets back from vacation He claims I said I would reship for free, yes I do but I do when shipping is seized, not when we agree on receiving both shipping with a price.

By saying I asked moderator below I meant asking @mands. I dont know if he is a moderator or not. Jut didnt want to give his name to the scammer guy.




And now as he has both shippings and not paid even the cheap price that we have agreed, he says the things below and tries to get away with it



He still has the chance to pay for the second shipping, but he needs to pay the original price which was about 330(for the headache he has caused me I want it all now), if he doesnt pay in 2 days, I will post his name and adress details here. I hope he doesnt pay because it will be fun, there are more important things in life than money (like having fun)

Also this guy might be professional about this so all sources should be careful.

 

[Turkish Pharmacy]

Bro, I've had some contact with you via emails but no orders as yet. My advice to you is to NOT do this or threaten to post a meso members name and address! This is a huge no no, and could kill your business here, no matter how badly this guy has behaved try to resolve it another way. Trust me this will look worse for you here than for him . Members privacy is a number one priority non negotiable. This destroys your credibility. It's not worth it over a few bucks. DO NOT DO THIS!!!

Yeah I didnt post anything yet but if he keeps on his attitude I will post them. Because I have no other way of solving this problem.

So if I scammed someone I will be all over here but when this guy scams me should I just let it be?

 

[Naugahyde]

Yeah I didnt post anything yet but if he keeps on his attitude I will post them. Because I have no other way of solving this problem.

So if I scammed someone I will be all over here but when this guy scams me should I just let it be?

No I never said you should let it be but resolve it any another way than threatening to post his personal details! That is totally unjustifiable and could put him in the frame for law enforcement. Just the fact you would even consider doing this would make many here question doing business with you in future. Bad call.

 

[Brolloks]

If you're stupid enough to expose your customers in public, noone will do business with you.

 

[Turkish Pharmacy]

No I never said you should let it be but resolve it any another way than threatening to post his personal details! That is totally unjustifiable and could put him in the frame for law enforcement. Just the fact you would even consider doing this would make many here question doing business with you in future. Bad call.

Ok so what do you recommend? He is not responding my mails on purpose. I have been trying to reach him for one week and he just responded after I said I will reveal his name on Meso.

-I hope you are not him I dont know his nickname here -

 

[Naugahyde]

If you're stupid enough to expose your customers in public, noone will do business with you.

Totally, I can't believe he said it would be 'fun'. Unbelievable!

 

[Turkish Pharmacy]

Totally, I can't believe he said it would be 'fun'. Unbelievable!

Yeah its always fun to reveal scammers

 

[Turkish Pharmacy]

If you're stupid enough to expose your customers in public, noone will do business with you.

If he is stupid enough to scam me, he should have considered this, I warned him many times.

If you intend to scam me like him and worried about being exposed, then dont buy from me. Problem solved.

 

[Naugahyde]

Ok so what do you recommend? He is not responding my mails on purpose. I have been trying to reach him for one week and he just responded after I said I will reveal his name on Meso.

-I hope you are not him I dont know his nickname here -

Thanks for implying that. I was trying to give you friendly advice on how not to screw up your business here. Last time I do that, Good luck I'm out of here

 

[Brolloks]

If he is stupid enough to scam me, he should have considered this, I warned him many times.

If you intend to scam me like him and worried about being exposed, then dont buy from me. Problem solved.

Do you really want to wander down this path? How long do you retain customer data? And do you think he's ordered under his real name?

 

[Turkish Pharmacy]

Do you really want to wander down this path? How long do you retain customer data? And do you think he's ordered under his real name?

Every two months I delete them.

I am pretty sure he ordered from his real name as his email sender and shipping receiver names are all the same.

I really wanna go down this path because my priority is not to get more business, my priority is not to get scammed because of my good intention.

Also I dont think I will lose any clients you can see I sent the shipping and made the reship promised even though it was early to say first shipping was seized. Then he agreed he would be 275 usd if both had arrived which he didnt. If you read all the content you can easily see I did my part without a hesitation. I never let anyone down.

 

[Ripped]

So are you guy's implieing that a scammer is a credible meso member that should be protected I'm just trying to get a grip on what yall mean because if scammers are given the same protection as a contributing member then how do you combat this garbage I mean what's going to deter them?

 

[Throwback]

What we are implying is that even the thought of revealing ANYONES personal info for ANY reason should be enough to run you out of here.
I mean how much are you really out on a 330 usd retail deal? 100$ maybe.
I see how this could piss u off getting scammed but you could have waited prior to the reship....the dude that ordered should do as he agreed...BUT if he doesnt posting personal info will kill your business here i think.
Maybe you have friends here in the States that could pay him a visit?

 

[Beano223]

In the future don't reship until confirmed its siezed

 

[Turkish Pharmacy]

What we are implying is that even the thought of revealing ANYONES personal info for ANY reason should be enough to run you out of here.
I mean how much are you really out on a 330 usd retail deal? 100$ maybe.
I see how this could piss u off getting scammed but you could have waited prior to the reship....the dude that ordered should do as he agreed...BUT if he doesnt posting personal info will kill your business here i think.
Maybe you have friends here in the States that could pay him a visit?

Yeah I would wait I had another package that was in same situation, I didnt make him reship and he received without a problem too.

The reason I made reship for this guy is that he kept on sending mails and he even said this below still thinking I have sent to wrong adress, when he threatened, I sent the reship so he would stop complaining:



I have a lot of friends in states and probably I can arrange someone to deal with this but I think its easier this way without getting anyone in trouble.

 

[AnTabolic73]

I have no problem with someone posting up a scammers info.

But to be honest, you should have never reshipped the pack without proof of seizure. He may not actually be a scammmer, per se, but someone who just took advantage of the opportunity.

 

[DrinkFlintWater]

In the future don't reship until confirmed its siezed

×2- also @Turkish Pharmacy your business isnt exactly on the "up and up" here on Meso...i understand your upset about sending out a reship to this guy...however, maybe next time wait til the customer gets a "love letter" and sends it in....like most international sources use. But by all means, drop that dime bro....seal your fate on Meso...lol

 

[Turkish Pharmacy]

In the future don't reship until confirmed its siezed

Unfortunately I reshipped due to him threatening as you can see on the previous post.

 

[Beano223]

Unfortunately I reshipped due to him threatening as you can see on the previous post.

So you know for the future if he were to have brought this up to meso saying he got scammed all you would have had to do was tell us your waiting to confirm siezure and you guarantee reship and we would have told him to wait it out and be patient. He had nothing on you to threaten you with at that point

 

[wsw16]

Sounds like you caved in to an impatient fuck and he took advantage of the situation. Yeah he's probably a piece of shit but you should of waited way longer to do a reship. Like the above poster said he had nothing to threaten you with at that point. Not a good idea to post his details 1. It will do nothing to get your money lost back and 2. It will taint your integrity