bigboy420
Member
What if it did?
Crashing ur hormones becouse you think its helping the body? Just dont see the logic in this.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
How long after coming off did you feel almost normal?
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Crashing ur hormones becouse you think its helping the body? Just dont see the logic in this.
Did I ever mention it helping my body? I explicitly stated that I am doing it for psychological reasons not physical. Can you please read and comprehend not make things up. I also said it might not be good for me but since I don’t feel uncomfortable or even bad, I don’t mind it.
I am from the time when we PCT and before that we just go cold turkey, so I am used to it.
You’re too weak of a human if you die because of low test, I am sorry you have inferior genetics.
Ghoul
Well-known Member
Acquiescing to the idea of being chained to medicine, any medicine, for the remainder of your life can be a tough thing to accept. BP meds, TRT, whatever.
It feels like a loss of autonomy. To accept you'll be reliant on a pharmaceutical for the rest of your life destroys the illusion most of us have of being able to survive independent of society. It looks like the dividing line between not old and old.
That's why many of us refuse to start taking take BP meds, or addressing cholesterol. nearly as early as we should, despite the mountain of evidence it'll provide us with a longer, healthier life.
Now, I look forward to my little regime of pills and shots. I've tweaked it to perfection. My BP and bloods are perfect. I took fully control of my supply, not reliant on the drug store every 90 days or the whims of a doctor. If need be I could go years.
These drugs put more power and control over our health in our hands than a King or the richest man on Earth just 50 years ago.
It feels like a loss of autonomy. To accept you'll be reliant on a pharmaceutical for the rest of your life destroys the illusion most of us have of being able to survive independent of society. It looks like the dividing line between not old and old.
That's why many of us refuse to start taking take BP meds, or addressing cholesterol. nearly as early as we should, despite the mountain of evidence it'll provide us with a longer, healthier life.
Now, I look forward to my little regime of pills and shots. I've tweaked it to perfection. My BP and bloods are perfect. I took fully control of my supply, not reliant on the drug store every 90 days or the whims of a doctor. If need be I could go years.
These drugs put more power and control over our health in our hands than a King or the richest man on Earth just 50 years ago.
How does that make any sense, I feel better already and it’s been 3 months.
We’ll all drugs have side effects hence why I hate taking them
I hate triple replying but I barely check this anymore. I feel more or less like my old natty self apart from mysterious libido issues and my loads still aren’t as big as before I started taking gear. Recovery isn’t as great and I do get sore after the gym now, but that’s obviously expected. I only ever done 2 weeks of PCT too before tossing the pills in the bin so you may as well say this is week 12 of cold turkey after 2 years of heavy gear usage. I haven’t done a blood test yet but will be soon but honestly I don’t care about numbers on a chart if everything else is working properly. What difference is there between 1000ng of test or 300ng if your still getting rock hard boners better than when you were on cycle? I think people follow the numbers too closely and take them as gospel.
I’m tempted to do 100/100/50/50 of Clomid next week just to see if it makes a difference. Clomid doesn’t really cause me sides apart from insomnia and diarrhoea. No vision or emotional issues like people claim. Only watery shits in the toilet.
I’m tempted to do 100/100/50/50 of Clomid next week just to see if it makes a difference. Clomid doesn’t really cause me sides apart from insomnia and diarrhoea. No vision or emotional issues like people claim. Only watery shits in the toilet.
BP_6
Member
What's coming off?? 
. In all seriousness, not saying it is a good thing, but I haven't been 100% off in quite some time.
. In all seriousness, not saying it is a good thing, but I haven't been 100% off in quite some time.
Spaceman Spiff
Well-known Member
Atta boy.
Who cares about blood work or gauging anything?
You clearly know what you are doing, by making these constant threads looking for validationsnand complaints.
Go ahead and do your clomid run. This is definitely a good idea .
Carry on with the shit show kid.
No offence but it sounds like an active addiction when you can’t come off. You do you, I couldn’t care less. The forum is here to ask for advice.
BP_6
Member
I can fully understand why you think that. However coming completely, 100% off for many like myself that have been on for a long time and are older now "almost 50" our natural production is permanently gone. We will at a minimum if we want to fell OK will be on at least a permanent replacement dosage at minimum for the rest of our lives.
My fertility got badly affected by AAS that’s why I’m coming off, something very off putting about not being able to shoot massive loads. Apart with the hairloss and the weekly pinning. I’m all for the TRT aspect of it, if it people actually ran TRT dosages and not 300mg. Why do I care do what you want.What's coming off??
Yeah I’m all for TRT at that age even far younger like 30+. I’m extremely biased due to my age so I’ll admit that. I’m just sour and hope I fully recover so I don’t have to inject this for the rest of my days. It’s not the end of the world but I would rather return to normal ways.
BP_6
Member
You are wise. Especially if you are worried about fertility. I started AAS at around 29 years old and already had my kids. I am glad that I waited.
I did the same thing, i thought it was best to wait..and i waited, i turned 35 and i realised i don't want kids and i can't raise them actually in today's world (mostly for financial reasons in the country i live) so yeah, i wish i had started gear sooner lol
That's me though, but even with all the limited knowledge i had about PEDs as a younger dude i knew since day 1 that getting into gear will complicate fertility. I think everyone knows that in the first place but most guys neglect this until they're deeply into it.
Also, if fertility is the reason OP can simply megadose fertility drugs like HCG, HMG, FSH etc get fertile, freeze the sperm and go back to buisness but from what i've read all this time from his various threads he wants to eat his cake and have it too. He wants the hairline, the un-puffy handsome face, the fertile sperm, the sex drive from gear, the gains, the bigger loads natty have etc.. So yeah, some guys better haven't started gear in the first place if they're so ignorant about potential side effects.
Spaceman Spiff
Well-known Member
You need to understand the difference of what addiction is and what a healthier lifestyle decision is.
You are literally posting here about not feeling well at a lower testosterone level. Then you are saying I can't come off.
Going to TRT was the best decision. Of course I don't want to come off
Load size doesn't mean fertility. You can have a big load size while being sterile.
Considering you haven't even gotten blood work, I doubt you have a proper sperm analysis.
bigboy420
Member
Hope you dont mean TRT is a addiction.
You are gonna call a type 1 diabetic a addict for using insulin?
You gonna call a dude with cronically high blood plessure a pressurepill addict?
Even if you started blasting and cruising with decent natty test you are probably cronically low testosterone for life now.
TRT is your normal now, anything above true trt would be called a addiction.
Not taking TRT does damage to the body if your not producing hormones.
