How much Anavar for big deficit?

[one5onecc]

Var is great too for cutting, but Tren is just superior in a direct comparison. Var we know tends to shed ab fat via a hepatic ketogenic mechanism (triaglycerol lipase). Tren is potently antiadipogenic & insulin sensitizing (e.g., reduces PPARγ expression), reducing lipid accumulation, inducing lipolysis, and committing fat cell precursors to a myogenic rather than adipogenic lineage. Not to mention its potent anticatabolism (important during cutting). I certainly do get sides at Tren 350+ mg. I won't run it again unless a high quality lab comes out with tren hex on par with Balkan, and it'll be at <= 150 mg. I like Mast but I don't think it offers any unique fat loss benefits besides that which is AR-mediated (at a fairly low AR potency, unlike Tren). Mast I like too, but it doesn't fare well in a direct comparison with respect to fat loss benefits versus Var or Tren (it does very well at tissue-level estrogen modulation).

Did what you advised and dropped my dose from 40 to 30mg anavar per day and didn’t notice any decrease in effects. Actually the opposite probably for being on it longer.

curious to find out how long I can run this low dose alongside my 225mg test c dose?

im only on week two but the strength, pumps, work capacity while on a deficit is addictive.

would 8-10 weeks be too much? Keep in mind I’m eating super clean and bp is 118/65.

 

[Rido]

I don't believe that you even notice 50mg of tren.
The low amount that I took was 200 mg and it was like I didn't took any. Didn't notice anything. Even if I was on test only or test and 200 mg tren was the same

fuck it. Ill do it.

would you recommend tren hex over E for such a low dose? (Open to other input as well)

I would run it for maybe 3 months of 50-75mg

 

[Nilatac]

fuck it. Ill do it.

would you recommend tren hex over E for such a low dose? (Open to other input as well)

I would run it for maybe 3 months of 50-75mg

I didn't notice any difference between esters either. I took Balkan Parabolan and tren e from many ugl and what I brew myself over the years but is the same. Tren hex only cost more
If you have budget and never took tren hex give it a try to see how it is but it's the same. If you are on a budget take tren e

The difference but a small one was between tren a and other esters as is kick is faster but the results are the same at the end of the day.

 

[Type-IIx]

Did what you advised and dropped my dose from 40 to 30mg anavar per day and didn’t notice any decrease in effects. Actually the opposite probably for being on it longer.

curious to find out how long I can run this low dose alongside my 225mg test c dose?

im only on week two but the strength, pumps, work capacity while on a deficit is addictive.

would 8-10 weeks be too much? Keep in mind I’m eating super clean and bp is 118/65.

I don't think 8-10 weeks of 30 mg oxandrolone is prohibitively long, maybe at the 6 week mark run some bloodwork to assess hepatotoxicity.

 

[one5onecc]

I don't think 8-10 weeks of 30 mg oxandrolone is prohibitively long, maybe at the 6 week mark run some bloodwork to assess hepatotoxicity.

What is your take on Anavar being kidney toxic?

Is there any evidence of mechanism behind it or is it more so due to high BP causing strain on kidneys.

Ive been searching everywhere and have been unable to find anything outside of forum posts mentioning that it is metabolised in kidneys.

 

[Rido]

I didn't notice any difference between esters either. I took Balkan Parabolan and tren e from many ugl and what I brew myself over the years but is the same. Tren hex only cost more
If you have budget and never took tren hex give it a try to see how it is but it's the same. If you are on a budget take tren e

The difference but a small one was between tren a and other esters as is kick is faster but the results are the same at the end of the day.

I'll

Var is great too for cutting, but Tren is just superior in a direct comparison. Var we know tends to shed ab fat via a hepatic ketogenic mechanism (triaglycerol lipase). Tren is potently antiadipogenic & insulin sensitizing (e.g., reduces PPARγ expression), reducing lipid accumulation, inducing lipolysis, and committing fat cell precursors to a myogenic rather than adipogenic lineage. Not to mention its potent anticatabolism (important during cutting). I certainly do get sides at Tren 350+ mg. I won't run it again unless a high quality lab comes out with tren hex on par with Balkan, and it'll be at <= 150 mg. I like Mast but I don't think it offers any unique fat loss benefits besides that which is AR-mediated (at a fairly low AR potency, unlike Tren). Mast I like too, but it doesn't fare well in a direct comparison with respect to fat loss benefits versus Var or Tren (it does very well at tissue-level estrogen modulation).

I hate to keep bugging you about this(or anything). At such a low dose of tren at 50mg a week. Would you suggest hex or E?

I'm leaning toward hex because I'm on test U weekly

Maybe I'll just do tren E just in case I need to get off and administer every 3 days

 

[Norse13]

I'll

I hate to keep bugging you about this(or anything). At such a low dose of tren at 50mg a week. Would you suggest hex or E?

I'm leaning toward hex because I'm on test U weekly

Maybe I'll just do tren E just in case I need to get off and administer every 3 days

I'll chip in with the standard advice that in case of unacceptable sides, you want the gear out of your system rapidly. Hex will take longer to clear than E. I don't think hex will build more muscle etc than E. I've never used anything else than E myself. I don't see any benefit in your situation to use hex, even if it somewhat matches your test u. Just use tren e and test u independently (tren e 2-3 times a week, test u 1 time a week).

Personally I mostly notice the mental effect around week 4 on tren e, that's when I suddenly get bizarre nightmares. Maybe my aggression slightly increases in week 3, but I'm pretty calm even on 500 test e. Reduced quality of sleep starts around week 4-5 for me.

50mg is so little that I'm curious to whether you'll feel any mental effects whatsoever. Or reduced cardio capacity and shortage of breath.

 

[Rido]

I'll chip in with the standard advice that in case of unacceptable sides, you want the gear out of your system rapidly. Hex will take longer to clear than E. I don't think hex will build more muscle etc than E. I've never used anything else than E myself. I don't see any benefit in your situation to use hex, even if it somewhat matches your test u. Just use tren e and test u independently (tren e 2-3 times a week, test u 1 time a week).

Personally I mostly notice the mental effect around week 4 on tren e, that's when I suddenly get bizarre nightmares. Maybe my aggression slightly increases in week 3, but I'm pretty calm even on 500 test e. Reduced quality of sleep starts around week 4-5 for me.

50mg is so little that I'm curious to whether you'll feel any mental effects whatsoever. Or reduced cardio capacity and shortage of breath.

I always appreciate thoughtful input from other members. I'll create a log mainly over mental side effects and weight loss. Since it's a dry compound I feel like dexa scans would be more beneficial to long results.

Overall I am calm, but I was about to lose it with a solicitor but I don't like people asking me to buy shit on the phone or in person ruining my personal time.

I definitely see aggression from masteron.

The reason why I was leaning more toward tren than var is the libido issues. I'll go ahead and run tren E. I guess it should be such a low dose it shouldn't be an issue. I guess using it for it's "therapeutic effect" of muscle retention and fat burning.

 

[Type-IIx]

I'll

I hate to keep bugging you about this(or anything). At such a low dose of tren at 50mg a week. Would you suggest hex or E?

I'm leaning toward hex because I'm on test U weekly

Maybe I'll just do tren E just in case I need to get off and administer every 3 days

I do prefer hex not the least because of its longer half life and relatively low molecular weight (such that 76% of the relative weight is the parent molecule I think?) I believe that hex has an approx. 8 day elimination half-life versus enanthate's approx. 4.5 day.

 

[Type-IIx]

What is your take on Anavar being kidney toxic?

Is there any evidence of mechanism behind it or is it more so due to high BP causing strain on kidneys.

Ive been searching everywhere and have been unable to find anything outside of forum posts mentioning that it is metabolised in kidneys.

Nah, that claim about Var being principally metabolized by the kidneys rather than liver originates in a work of science fiction called Andropathy by R.A.S. Hemat. Var is metabolized similarly to all 17AAs. Var is a mildly hepatotoxic 17AA, your real concern is lipids.

 

[Rido]

Nah, that claim about Var being principally metabolized by the kidneys rather than liver originates in a work of science fiction called Andropathy by R.A.S. Hemat. Var is metabolized similarly to all 17AAs. Var is a mildly hepatotoxic 17AA, your real concern is lipids.

Here is such an interesting anectodal report where he just did 50mg of tren E per week for a while. Said it helped him maintain his physique in heavy decficits

He kind of backs your statement of sub 150(well he says 200)

 

[Smashshit]

fuck it. Ill do it.

would you recommend tren hex over E for such a low dose? (Open to other input as well)

I would run it for maybe 3 months of 50-75mg

Curious to follow your results. I’m about to start a similar mini cycle in January. Gonna run test @200 which is my normal TrT cruise, add mast @300, and tren @150 is the plan. May throw Var @50mg Ed in to finish things off at the end.

 

[Rido]

Curious to follow your results. I’m about to start a similar mini cycle in January. Gonna run test @200 which is my normal TrT cruise, add mast @300, and tren @150 is the plan. May throw Var @50mg Ed in to finish things off at the end.

I have a log right now. I am going to keep a mental note of everything. As the Deca is washing out I feel a little less irritable. might be a coincidence or I am trying to be very careful since I am on this stuff.

I did start the Tren now at 200mg a week. and keep my cycle as originally planned at 13 weeks instead of backing off early.