how much to expect to gain.

[rob3412]

ok well im gonna start my first cycle ... at the moment in 6'1 191 11 percent body fat. ill be taking 300 mg deca qv and 500 mg sust a week for 10 weeks. how much do u think on average a person such as myself should expect to gain if worked out properly ect.. from what ive been reading i should be able to gain more than say 15 pounds?

 

[KCSMAN]

I Think You Should Gain Around 15 To 20 Pounds Depending On Your Diet. You Won't Really Gain Nothing If You Don't Eat Right.

 

[Silverback]

ok well im gonna start my first cycle ... at the moment in 6'1 191 11 percent body fat. ill be taking 300 mg deca qv and 500 mg sust a week for 10 weeks. how much do u think on average a person such as myself should expect to gain if worked out properly ect.. from what ive been reading i should be able to gain more than say 15 pounds?

It is very hard to say---
How many calories you eat will be the ultimate factor in your gains--
Make sure you eat alot of complex carbs, healthy fats, proteins--
At your weight I would eat at least 4000cals daily--

I would not use sustanon for my first cycle, use enanthate or cypionate--
If I must use sust, I would run it 2 weeks longer than the deca--

If you do all this you should be able to easily gain 15 lbs---I would hope you could get more out of your first cycle--

Hope that helps--

 

[rob3412]

It is very hard to say---
How many calories you eat will be the ultimate factor in your gains--
Make sure you eat alot of complex carbs, healthy fats, proteins--
At your weight I would eat at least 4000cals daily--

I would not use sustanon for my first cycle, use enanthate or cypionate--
If I must use sust, I would run it 2 weeks longer than the deca--

If you do all this you should be able to easily gain 15 lbs---I would hope you could get more out of your first cycle--

Hope that helps--

yea sticking to that high protien, high carb diet of course get around say 50 grams protien every 2 and half hours or so

 

[rob3412]

It is very hard to say---
How many calories you eat will be the ultimate factor in your gains--
Make sure you eat alot of complex carbs, healthy fats, proteins--
At your weight I would eat at least 4000cals daily--

I would not use sustanon for my first cycle, use enanthate or cypionate--
If I must use sust, I would run it 2 weeks longer than the deca--

If you do all this you should be able to easily gain 15 lbs---I would hope you could get more out of your first cycle--

Hope that helps--

whats wrong with using the sust and if i use enanthate how many mg should i take with it a week

 

[ramboj70]

I dont like susty either. I stick with enanth/cyp for the longer cycles. diet/training/rest/genetics will dictate how much you gain. with that cycle for 10 weeks, 15 lbs should be easy. BTW 400-500 mg of test EW.

bro I used to run sust all the time, for your first cycle it would be fine get some more sust and run the cycle for about 13 weeks stop the deca at week 10 or 11, if you do everthing right you will pack on 20lbs easy this is your first cycle and I beleaive that first cycle is always the best, so you get what you put into it bro, eat everything that is not bolted down, drink about 2 gal H2O and train hard and most important rest, shit my first cycle was sust and I put 30 lbs on, now I be lucky to pack 15 lbs on. good luck keep us posted

 

[Juice88]

I'm in the process of picking my first cycle as well and was probably going to go with sust......why do you say its no good for a first silverback?

 

[borderbound]

due to the way the 4 different kinds of test hit at different times
it causes too many fluxuations in the levels of test in your body
unless you are injecting it every other day which levels it out but
is a higher dose than anyone needs for a first cycle

 

[Silverback]

due to the way the 4 different kinds of test hit at different times
it causes too many fluxuations in the levels of test in your body
unless you are injecting it every other day which levels it out but
is a higher dose than anyone needs for a first cycle

This is essentially why I wouldnt use it either--You can choose to have eod injections or too many changes in the levels--

Just stick with enanthate at 400-500mg--Shoot it once or twice a week--

Sustanon is not that great like every beginner thinks--

Rob---BTW---I gained about 24 lbs doing only 400mg of test enanthate(shitty brovel at that) for 10 weeks in my first cycle--At the start of it I was around 185 12%bf

peace

 

[rob3412]

k, im gonna take your word on it u should know from expirence.. thanks bro.. ill be taking deca qv 300 mg and 500 enanthate a week. also kinda good for me also, ill be saving a couple bucks

when u gained your 24 pounds was it just using entanthate or did u stack it

 

[jocko]

if you diet, train, sleep right 15lbs easy

 

[cracka]

A little late ... but I'll put my .02 in anyway.

15 lbs is realistic with proper eating, training, and sleeping. I don't like sust either due to the 4 ester blend ... it should be taken atleast 3 times a week (750mg) to get full benifits of the faster acting esters. And if you're going to do that you might as well use prop instead ...

 

[Finisher]

I'll chime in here late also....

I love seeing this question come up.....

You'll gain what you eat! Gear helps but it's the diet and training that mold the results.

Best of luck.

Finisher

 

[rob3412]

im 193 now.. hopefully ill gain 20 pounds!

 

[ThePatriot]

Shit if you dont try hard you can put on 15 lbs at least. With that much sust for your first I imagine that you can get at least 30. Train as hard as you can and get everything in sight. Youll never have a better time to grow than on your first cycle. Dont let shit hold you back, stress, gf, life fuck it all to hell. Just concentrate on eating and working out all the time.

 

[rob3412]

thanks guys.. U GUYS OWN! yea man im gonna fucken TEAR IT UP! hopefully my workout buddy wont notice . hehe

 

[Silverback]

k, im gonna take your word on it u should know from expirence.. thanks bro.. ill be taking deca qv 300 mg and 500 enanthate a week. also kinda good for me also, ill be saving a couple bucks

when u gained your 24 pounds was it just using entanthate or did u stack it

I guess you were talking to me---

I only used 400mg of crappy brovel test enanthat-- when I gained that weight--
I didnt eat very good though---so I gained some fat, but I was desperate at that time to gain some weight, and it worked

 

[dzl66]

Thats a good first cycle...At 191 I may bump the deca up a bit.
These guys are right it's all about diet my friend, i think 20lbs is an attainable goal if your diet is solid.

 

[ramboj70]

Too much fluctations. If you want fast acting test, get prop with the enan or cyp. susty is overrated.

I also have to address the idea of eating everything that is not bolted down. No flame brother, but I disagree to some point. I suggest eating calorie rich foods for each meal, including weight gainers. A lot of foods have too many saturated fats and fats with hydrogenated oils. These are no no's even on a bulker. I also advise to watch sodium on a cycle.

none takin bro, well asuming he knows what to eat is what I ment about eating everything that is not bolted down, shit if he goes to BK everyday, then he is in big trouble, but eating everything healthy is the way to go, and eat lots of it,

 

[Jizzmaster]

Sustanon is not that bad. I suggest you take dianabol also on a daily basis, say like 50 mg a day, to keep the test level stable. Don't forget to take an anti-oxidant before going to bed. This will stop your body from breaking down muscle tissue. Watch yourself grow!!!