How potently does GH elevate blood sugar / risk diabetes?

[Galileo]

I am aware that very significant GH use can cause high BS, diabetes

My question is how potent is GH - generally speaking - in terms of elevating blood sugar? How much a concern is it for low doses, like 2-3 units?
My units I mean real GH from big pharma. Not generic or chinese or something, but the real deal

Does 2 units per day elevate blood sugar a lot as to cause concern?
...when is it an issue?

I hear some people using 4-10 units per day so wondering what the proportions are in all these

(I don't want diabetes)

 

[alecutheman]

Depends on the person in my experience, get a glucose meter and keep track of your fasting glucose values each morning and you'll have your answer.

 

[AlexDavis43]

I am aware that very significant GH use can cause high BS, diabetes

My question is how potent is GH - generally speaking - in terms of elevating blood sugar? How much a concern is it for low doses, like 2-3 units?
My units I mean real GH from big pharma. Not generic or chinese or something, but the real deal

Does 2 units per day elevate blood sugar a lot as to cause concern?
...when is it an issue?

I hear some people using 4-10 units per day so wondering what the proportions are in all these

(I don't want diabetes)

I don't think 2-3 IU/d would move the glycemic needle too much.

I use 10 IU/d and employ some preventative anti-hyperglycemics like berberine and empagliflozin. Also do cardio and a low carb diet. Seems to maintain insulin sensitivity fairly well.

 

[Demondosage]

More than ppl think

 

[RekTest]

4iu (along with being a fat shiii) put my a1c at 5.6.

No idea what it is now, as I run 20iu but Im on a heeeavy dose of Tirz that is aiding in controlling the GH, along with being waaay down in weight

 

[GeneLifts]

Be honest already diabetic so I am already on insulin so why I did not care to jump on hgh

 

[Galileo]

Just to be clear, if doing mild-moderate GH and only periodically/cycled, is the insulin resistance reversible upon cessation? I mean does the body largely go back to normal, provided you didn't become diabetic...

 

[29trt]

Just to be clear, if doing mild-moderate GH and only periodically/cycled, is the insulin resistance reversible upon cessation? I mean does the body largely go back to normal, provided you didn't become diabetic...

Even if you become diabetic insulin sensitivity can be restored with diet and exercise... But you will not be able to maintain a weight that is not natural to you.... Be it at 10% fat or 20.
Perhaps on a modified keto diet you might be able to maintain a higher body weight...

 

[egruberman]

How much a concern is it for low doses, like 2-3 units?

None.

Get a glucose meter. I like the precision xtra. My last HbA1C was 5.2 on 6iu/day. Presently on 10iu a day. Fasting BG is <90mg/dL. I believe my last HbA1C prior was 4.9. That could be attributed to less cardio, GH or any number of things. Regardless, I'm in good shape, which I think is attributable to running a GLP1 RA even when bulking.

Point being, I'm fine, for reasons, but you may not be, so implement the necessary metrics to know if you have a problem and the necessary interventions if problems arise.

Just to be clear, if doing mild-moderate GH and only periodically/cycled, is the insulin resistance reversible upon cessation? I mean does the body largely go back to normal, provided you didn't become diabetic...

Yes, provided that the lifestyle factors are under control. That is a reasonable diet and sufficient exercise.

 

[alecutheman]

For another anecdote, I'm currently running 20iu split AM/PM and fasting glucose is in the 80s (mg/dL). Could be better if I did more cardio, but I eat healthy and I'm currently 13.5% bf so I'm still getting away with it. I will still be checking fasting BG daily.

 

[29trt]

None.

Get a glucose meter. I like the precision xtra. My last HbA1C was 5.2 on 6iu/day. Presently on 10iu a day. Fasting BG is <90mg/dL. I believe my last HbA1C prior was 4.9. That could be attributed to less cardio, GH or any number of things. Regardless, I'm in good shape, which I think is attributable to running a GLP1 RA even when bulking.

Point being, I'm fine, for reasons, but you may not be, so implement the necessary metrics to know if you have a problem and the necessary interventions if problems arise.



Yes, provided that the lifestyle factors are under control. That is a reasonable diet and sufficient exercise.

Are you in a surplus , maintaining or deficit?
This makes a HUGE difference when we are talking about insulin resistance especially on GH....
And without serum insulin levels bg numbers are kind of useless