MisterSuperGod
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i wonder if Marvel/Disney would be interested in knowing he used their licensed character on his vials?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Hulk Body Labs Busted - Operation Cyber Juice
- Thread starter Millard
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That would be interesting to see.
Gay porn star who ran ‘largest secret steroids lab in the US’ jailed
A gay porn star has been jailed after he was found to be running what is thought to be the “largest secret steroids lab” in America.
Tyler St James, real name Joel Logan Pasternak, was found to be the ringleader of the illegal steroid production in Tennessee
The porn star, who frequently worked with sites including Men.com and Jet Set Men was fined $2.8 million and sentenced to nine years in federal prison.
well, a very merry Christmas to you too Millard!!
master.on
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Gay porn star who ran ‘largest secret steroids lab in the US’ jailed
A gay porn star has been jailed after he was found to be running what is thought to be the “largest secret steroids lab” in America.
Tyler St James, real name Joel Logan Pasternak, was found to be the ringleader of the illegal steroid production in Tennessee
The porn star, who frequently worked with sites including Men.com and Jet Set Men was fined $2.8 million and sentenced to nine years in federal prison.
lmao @:
1 pinknews.com
2 pic of BBer trying to inject in his biceps
3 Top or bottom?
If bottom, then his gear was bunk or estro loaded?
4 looks like bottom indeed
mymusclevideo.com/45303/tyler-andrews-fucks-tyler-st-james/
5 lmoa @ mymusclevideo.com
I'll go ahead and clear a couple of things up as well.
@showstoppa, we can look a little silly when we think we're schooling a guy and do so in such a way that's rude and appears to be an attempt to belittle our target.
@Thaistick is a guy I've shared board space with the last couple of years. He's well versed on the federal system and the BOP.
Thaistick is well aware of the 5k1, I assure you.
You learned something new tonight, courtesy of Thaistick. Rule 35 is indeed another way informants/rats reduce the time they serve by receiving downward departures from the Sentencing Guidelines. Its certainly not as well known but it's for real.
I think you misspoke when you used the word "bail", no? I believe you're referring to the "Lucky"(beware of those in the fed system who use the word "Lucky" when talking about their sentence) % of future inmates who are granted Pre-trial release.
I'm not saying all that are granted this privilege are cooperating, only all the folks that I'm aware of.
I'm also aware that some go to rehab during this time or do the things you mentioned. I assure you, any sentence that the guys on pre-trial receive that aren't within the sentencing guidelines were because of cooperation, not because the recently indicted found God or decided to start living an honest life.The 5k1's and Rule 35's are not made public and cannot be found on pacer.gov.
Well in my case and most others I have scene the original arrest was state and upgraded to federal shortly after. Sometimes this is not the case I am sure and not sure how bail works when going directly into the federal system.
As far as the rule 35, I apparently was wrong and I apologise if I came off as an arrogant dick, didn't mean to at all.
As far as the changing the behavior comment, I meant to reduce sentence towards the bottom end of the guidelines which in some cases can be a few years at least.
I’m still trying to figure out what you mean by soft whiteboys ?
Not to mention your 3 types of convits story is fucking retarded idk who the convicts are that you know but never once have i sat in my cell wishing i told on anyone bud! So keep the pc talk to your self . And yes there are sold mf that will Take there time With there mouth shut .. I’m not sure where ur from but where I’m from there is a ton a solid white boys on the yard always out numbered but always willing to run it !!!
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I know this is your boy brother but I’m not liking the whiteboy comments sure the game has changed and people are telling shit last time i was on the bus in 2012 there were 3 of us in the cages and rest of the bus was pc .. i remember when it was the other way around
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It's an interesting story on many levels. One story that I think doesn't receive sufficient discussion is how much information sources usually give up to the feds when they are busted and consequently how much detail federal agents know about how domestic sources operate in the United States.Great story
The court documents in this case were particularly interesting because rarely do we ever get to see a detailed accounting of all the information that the feds were able to extract from the source. But thanks to Hulkbody's mom and dad, we have the benefit of the DEA/IRS memorandum of interview. (Usually, these documents are not available to the public but thanks to the fact that his mom and dad attached them to their sentencing memorandum as an exhibit, this information automatically becomes a matter of public record).
A few things of note, especially to all those wannabe drug dealer lurking on the forum and considering participating at some level of distribution...
- most domestic sources and their subordinates (e.g. shippers, brewers, remailers, receivers, etc.) will get busted.
- the source will turn on everyone that works for them
And for those who are reading the feedback on sources and notice some members repeatedly say positive things about them, consider that things are not always as they seem...
Sources use these forums to recruit people to work for them in varying capacities behind the scenes. A source could have dozens of people working for them as receivers, remailers, shippers, brewers, etc. This people are on the forum contributing as regular members with a clear BUT UNDISCLOSED conflict of interest.
Just some light reading material of the type of information sources give up when they are busted....
DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
Internal Revenue Service
Criminal Investigation
Memorandum of Interview
Investigation #: 1000266294
Location: 160 Country Path, Newport, TN
Investigation Name: PASTERNAK, JOEL
Date: July 7, 2015
Time: 4:40-7:10 PM
Participant(s):
JOEL PASTERNAK, Subject of Investigation
Jimmy Cline, Special Agent, IRS
Kar Oroz, Financial Investigator, DEA
On the above date and time, Special Agent Jimmy Cline (S/A Cline) and Financial Investigator Karl Oroz (FIC Oroz) met with JOEL PASTERNAK (PASTERNAK) as a federal search warrant was being conducted at PASTERNAK'S parent's home located at 160 Country Path Road in Newport, Tennessee. S/A Cline identified himself as a special agent with the Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigation Division and displayed his credentials and FIC Oroz identified himself as a Financial Investigator for the Drug Enforcement Administration and displayed his credentials. S/A Cline advised PASTERNAK he was assisting the United States Attorney’s Office out of Greeneville, Tennessee in an investigation involving the distribution and sale of steroids and money laundering. PASTERNAK agreed to speak and provided the following information:
On July 9, 2015, PASTERNAK agreed to sit down to conduct another interview at the offices of the Internal Revenue Service located at 2513 Wesley Street in Johnson City, Tennessee. Present during that interview was PASTERNAK, DEA Task Force Officer Vince Walters (TFO Walters), DEA Special Agent Tracy Bishop (S/A Bishop), and S/A Cline. This interview began at 12:19 PM and ended at approximately 15:40. During this interview, PASTERNAK provided the following information:
I prepared this memorandum on July 31, 2015, after refreshing my memory from notes made during and immediately after the interview with JOEL PASTERNAK.
Jimmy Cline
Special Agent
DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
Internal Revenue Service
Criminal Investigation
Memorandum of Interview
Investigation #: 1000266294
Location: 160 Country Path, Newport, TN
Investigation Name: PASTERNAK, JOEL
Date: July 7, 2015
Time: 4:40-7:10 PM
Participant(s):
JOEL PASTERNAK, Subject of Investigation
Jimmy Cline, Special Agent, IRS
Kar Oroz, Financial Investigator, DEA
On the above date and time, Special Agent Jimmy Cline (S/A Cline) and Financial Investigator Karl Oroz (FIC Oroz) met with JOEL PASTERNAK (PASTERNAK) as a federal search warrant was being conducted at PASTERNAK'S parent's home located at 160 Country Path Road in Newport, Tennessee. S/A Cline identified himself as a special agent with the Internal Revenue Service, Criminal Investigation Division and displayed his credentials and FIC Oroz identified himself as a Financial Investigator for the Drug Enforcement Administration and displayed his credentials. S/A Cline advised PASTERNAK he was assisting the United States Attorney’s Office out of Greeneville, Tennessee in an investigation involving the distribution and sale of steroids and money laundering. PASTERNAK agreed to speak and provided the following information:
1. PASTERNAK verified his SSN as xxx-xx-9080 and his date of birth as February 9, 1989. PASTERNAK currently resides at 24 Lake Village Court in Johnson City, Tennessee.
2. PASTERNAK got his start while he was in college approximately four years ago. It was the big thing to do and easy money. PASTERNAK went to East Tennessee State University (ETSU) nursing school.
3. PASTERNAK studied and learned how to make the steroids. He also leamed the about the importing of products from China. PASTERNAK used an individual named Wayne Ji as his contact for raw powders. PASTERNAK did not remember the name of the business Wayne Ji operated or any contact information for Wayne Ji. The shipping of the raw powders used to be just the powders in a clear ziplock type bag. However, once law enforcement started seizing the packages the products were contained within, the method of shipping changed first to repackage as laundry detergent with clothes inside the boxes, and later changed to other methods of concealment.
4. PASTERNAK would send Western Union wire transfers in order to purchase the raw powders. Sometimes, PASTERNAK would have the customers who order products send the money via Western Union to China. PASTERNAK explained most people did this because it was convenient. PASTERNAK started ordering a few grams at a time in the beginning but eventually increased the amount he ordered. When PASTERNAK obtained a little extra money, he would use the extra money to buy more raw powders.
5. PASTERNAK estimates that in 2011, he ordered two to three kilos at $20 to $30 per 10-20 grams. PASTERNAK estimates that in 2012, he purchased approximately 5 kilos and split the quantities into smaller amounts to keep from being such a large package. In 2013, PASTERNAK purchased approximately 10 kilos of product. In 2014, PASTERNAK claimed he ran into financial issues and purchased 10 kilos of product. PASTERNAK claims that due to his recent financial issues, he has run out of money. In 2015, PASTERNAK claimed he had not ordered in four months and that he had ordered approximately 5 kilos from China.
6. When asked how much PASTERNAK made selling the products, PASTERNAK estimates he made $150,000. PASTERNAK claims the money went towards expenses, including paying his car payment, living expenses, and putting money back into the business to order raw powders and glassware. PASTERNAK also claims he had medical expenses from having surgery on his leg and estimated the medical bills to be approximately $20,000.
7. PASTERNAK claimed that the steroid batches found at the 24 Lake Village Court residence in Johnson City, Tennessee were five to six months old. PASTERNAK claimed he had not been using steroids in a long time, and had stopped using them.
8. PASTERNAK states he twisted his ankle and broke his leg.
9. PASTERNAK used Research Supply and paid them using Western Union or credit cards, whichever was easiest at the time. PASTERNAK found his glassware suppliers by using Google and found that Research Supply was the top site. PASTERNAK did all of his ordering online.
10.Next Day Gear (NDG) ran Hulk Body's website which was based upon e-mail communication with customers. There were many different website variations. PASTERNAK helped run customer service and made the changes on the website. PASTERNAK used StrongVPN software to mask his IP address.
11. PASTERNAK claims the site was hacked by Russians and they mirrored the site and caused customers to send money to fake names they created causing those customers to be ripped off.
12. PASTERNAK did use CoinBase for his BitCoin, but did not use it much. PASTERNAK states it was difficult to convert BitCoin to currency and until recently, they accepted BitCoin as a form of payment. PASTERNAK would transfer the BitCoin to NDG for them to use for whatever. PASTERNAK claims he never wanted to use BitCoin. Big D, a customer of PASTERNAK, had a lot of BitCoin.
13. PASTERNAK had individuals who would pick up money using fake names from Western Union wires and they would send the cash by mail to PASTERNAK. PASTERNAK states he paid the money receivers fees ranging from 15% to 20%. PASTERNAK started doing this as a way to cut costs. PASTERNAK bought a lot of fake names through the web site Silk Road for his receivers before it was shut down; PASTERNAK was also aware that fake ID's could be purchased through Silk Road but claims he never purchased any or used any because he could not get a legitimate social security number to create a fake ID with. PASTERNAK utilized the following individuals as money receivers:
- MATT LISOVOY - Based out of Knoxville, Tennessee and has a girlfriend named Anoushka (phoenetic). LISOVOY was PASTERNAK'S main money receiver and used the names Chris Wallen and Chris Waller. PASTERNAK states the fake ID's made it easier and claimed he only picked up $5,000 to $6,000 for PASTERNAK.
- CHRIS JONES — Based out of Rhode Island; spoke to him a few times and utilized him for money pick-ups years ago and was unsure if he collected for others. His moniker is “Irish”.
- DANIEL BOSTON — Met him online. He lived in Las Vegas.
- Roger Bowen — Does not know
- GLENN JENKINS - Received small amounts of money for PASTERNAK. PASTERNAK estimates approximately $6,000 to $7,000 over at least a 2-3 period. He was paid a 15% to 20% “commission for picking up the money for PASTERNAK.
- AUSTIN FREE — Started off as a customer and received at least $2,000 in the past year. AUSTIN FREE also used other suppliers to receive money for.
14. PASTERNAK also used MoneyGram for customer wire transfers, but that he mainly used Western Union. He would ask the customer to use a test question such as color, a random number, or something similar. PASTERNAK states it was usually the customer choice as to which method of payment they used. PASTERNAK had no preference himself although Western Union was the most common method of payment.
15. PASTERNAK tried GreenDot reloadable credit cards to receive funds, but they were too strict and required him to register his social security number. PASTERNAK also used his Bank of America bank account and states they never got suspicious of his cash deposits. PASTERNAK states there was never a time he would deposit a lot of cash at one time besides when he purchased 24 Lake Village Court in Johnson City, Tennessee.
16. PASTERNAK used Kroger and Wal-Mart, but did not use CVS or Walgreens because they were tight and not very lenient in picking up money. PASTERNAK states they used the Johnson City, Tennessee Wal-Mart locations as well as Johnson City, Tennessee Kroger locations for wire transfers. PASTERNAK further explained he used random fake names and did not utilize his own name for his safety to keep people from knowing his real name. MoneyGram would freeze names.
17. PASTERNAK utilized shippers to ship his product. Those included MAX HENSLEY (HENSLEY) and JOHN ALLEN (ALLEN). PASTERNAK states ALLEN is currently in Florida due to a new job on a cruise ship.
18. PASTERNAK utilized brewers to make his products. Those included PASTERNAK, HENSLEY, and ALLEN.
19. PASTERNAK states he never used ETSU or any other university to test his products.
20. PASTERNAK used lab workers to assist in the manufacturing process. HEATH KERSHAW (KERSHAW) used to be a lab worker, but he went off to school as a physician's assistant. PAM LITTLE helped package and label the products. DANIELLE CARTER and HENSLEY also assisted and did the same duties as PAM LITTLE. BRITTANY HALTER assisted way back and PASTERNAK claims she hardly did anything. When asked about Viola Baker, PASTERNAK states she was just a housekeeper for HENSLEY'S grandmother and had no role in the business. Ashley White is an ex-girlfriend of HENSLEY. PASTERNAK claims to not know Chelsey Harris. LINDSEY SMALLMAN did work in the lab way back. PASTERNAK claimed to not know KORTNEY VAUGHN.
21. PASTERNAK used several locations as labs, including 1812 East Millard Street in Johnson City, Tennessee and Miller Crest Apartments in Johnson City, Tennessee. PASTERNAK initially used 1322 Baldridge to start his operation but when Thomas Spurgeon found out what was going on, he made PASTERNAK quit which caused PASTERNAK to move to another location. Thomas Spurgeon was not involved in PASTERNAK'S operation. The 1812 Millard Street location has been the lab for the last two years. PASTERNAK advised agents there were several hundred bottles there, some powders estimated to be quite a few kilos in the basement. HENSLEY has the keys to the residence. PASTERNAK states no college students live there.
22. PASTERNAK states there was a new computer at his residence at 24 Lake Village Court. He used it to prepare spreadsheets for the money receivers which contained the MCTN's. PASTERNAK states he had another one he bought from Best Buy, but had to take it back because it stopped working. He exchanged that laptop at Best Buy for another.
23. The only product PASTERNAK states he sold was Hulk. Beaker Brew was an older source and his lab was testing the product. PASTERNAK claimed he did not know Metropillar.
24. Eroids uses Moldavia to process payments and PASTERNAK had to pay a fee based upon placing within the site. PASTERNAK states it was $1,000 a month for an upper placing. PASTERNAK claims he only paid $50 a month the last year to Eroids for his placement. PASTERNAK claims that things at Eroids got bad and that he dropped in rankings and never picked back up.
25. Coldwell was found by PASTERNAK on the internet. He never thought it was going to be legitimate. He used them to set up an offshore account at Loyal Bank and placed approximately $600 to $700 in the account. it was too difficult to set up and took over a year to do so. According to his sources, this was supposed to assist PASTERNAK in accepting credit cards for customer transactions. PASTERNAK never utilized the bank account. PASTERNAK states he has no other offshore accounts.
26. PASTERNAK is currently renting 24 Lake Village Court and paid $50,000 as a down payment as part of a rent to own. He has been making monthly payments and claimed to not be able to pay much recently. PASTERNAK states he currently owes approximately $60,000 out of the total $150,000 purchase price.
27. PASTERNAK made tithes to his dad’s church but unsure how much. PASTERNAK states his dad has been a pastor his whole life. PASTERNAK further explains that his parents were not involved in his operation until approximately two months ago. Prior to that, they had no knowledge of what he was doing. PASTERNAK had the lab hidden at 1812 East Millard.
28. PASTERNAK states the name Swolitopia came about because friends called him Swoll in high school.
29. Ironman Pharmaceuticals was never used by PASTERNAK.
30. PASTERNAK did not know or never heard of Herbal Energy.
31. PASTERNAK knew Metropillar was on eroids.com but claimed to not know who ran it.
32. Periodization Renaissance is a bodybuilding company and was involved in nothing illegal.
33. PASTERNAK claimed not to remember MICHAEL VAN or MICHAEL VANLEEUWEN.
34. KERSHAW is Phoenix and Phoenix-80 on Eroids.
35. Angus did some testing for PASTERNAK back in the day. PASTERNAK would send samples of four to five bottles for testing via USPS. Angus did his own thing.
36. PASTERNAK does not know Dale Comett.
37. PASTERNAK did not know of any athletes as customers.
38. Elizabeth Decker is a former girlfriend and had no role in the business.
39. LAUREN DEAN was not involved in the business because she would never get involved.
40. PASTERNAK admitted to using marijuana as personal use but never sold marijuana.
On July 9, 2015, PASTERNAK agreed to sit down to conduct another interview at the offices of the Internal Revenue Service located at 2513 Wesley Street in Johnson City, Tennessee. Present during that interview was PASTERNAK, DEA Task Force Officer Vince Walters (TFO Walters), DEA Special Agent Tracy Bishop (S/A Bishop), and S/A Cline. This interview began at 12:19 PM and ended at approximately 15:40. During this interview, PASTERNAK provided the following information:
41. When asked where PASTERNAK'S money was, PASTERNAK states he over expanded his business and had to support PAM LITTLE and DANI (known to agents as DANIELLE CARTER). PASTERNAK also made deposits for 24 Lake Village Court directly in Charles King's account, the owner of the property.
42. PASTERNAK had a connection in New Mexico, Abigail Chester (Chester), whom he met on Eroids. PASTERNAK claims the individuals had ties to the IRA (believed by agents to be the Irish Republican Army) and flew in individuals from Australia to assist. PASTERNAK did not know his name. PASTERNAK thought Chester may live in the Durango, Colorado area on her grandmother's property. Chester is an accountant who advised PASTERNAK she would create checks made payable to PASTERNAK from a company called Hulked Out Trainers. The money originated from cash that PASTERNAK mailed from New York (while he lived there). PASTERNAK estimated that provided Chester approximately $150,000. Sometimes the money was direct deposited into his bank account at Bank of America. Chester also had a friend named Christian Fletcher who assisted her. PASTERNAK claims this was a bad deal as they stole his money. PASTERNAK was trying to create labs in that area until they stole his money. PASTERNAK admitted this as a way to launder his money.
43. KERSHAW is now running Metropillar with another source.
44. PASTERNAK started his steroids manufacturing business in approximately 2010 or 2011 with HENSLEY. PASTERNAK and HENSLEY split the proceeds 50% to 50%. PASTERNAK was still in college at the time and was struggling for money. He had a part time job at JCPenney and had just purchased a white Ford Expedition from his parents which eventually needed new tires. The need for new tires put him into a financial bind. PASTERNAK originally assisted HENSLEY who had started the steroids manufacturing business and sold locally. Eventually PASTERNAK conducted research online and through a site called Superbass. PASTERNAK states the manufacturing process was all about percentages. PASTERNAK has also been on Eroids for approximately four years. PASTERNAK created labels for his product which he called Hulk Body. HENSLEY was good at obtaining the raw steroids for the manufacturing process. PASTERNAK was good at selling the products; so they teamed up. Once PASTERNAK became involved in the business, he was easily able to double the business’ money.
45. In the beginning, PASTERNAK and HENSLEY ordered small amounts of raw powders. Once they started selling, they threw more money at the business until they eventually got huge. Eventually the business was operating 24/7 and PASTERNAK and HENSLEY had work in shifts. They started off with plastic hand pumps for the manufacturing process. All of the money receiving was done in Johnson City, Tennessee through Western Union or MoneyGram. They usually picked up amounts less than $1,000 and even then, they did not use their real names. Sometimes, an ID was required for pickup which they did not have for the false names, so they ended up losing that money, especially through MoneyGram. HENSLEY and PASTERNAK remained the primary receiver of raw powders in the organization.
46. HENSLEY started the business off as Anabolic Body which changed to Banner Body once PASTERNAK got involved until it eventually changed to Hulk Body. Shannon Gentry was PASTERNAK'S first customer.
47. As customer orders came in through e-mail, PASTERNAK had to remember the names. At that time, PASTERNAK did-not keep the orders on an electronic Excel spreadsheet and only wrote them down on paper. There also was no cart system to keep track of the orders.
48. PASTERNAK states they could not oversell because they had minimal supply.
49. Thomas Spurgeon signed for packages, but he did not know what was in them. As soon as Spurgeon found out what they were doing, he made PASTERNAK and ALLEN move out of 1322 Baldridge Ave in Johnson City, Tennessee.
50. After being kicked out of Spurgeon’s residence, they moved the lab to ALLEN'S condominium. This occurred in approximately 2011 or 2012. PASTERNAK coaxed ALLEN into using his condo for the lab because no one was living there at the time. ALLEN told PASTERNAK that Chelsey Harris never knew about the lab.
51. Between 2011 and 2013, PASTERNAK utilized an individual named NATHAN URRUTIA (URRUTIA) from Michigan to do his money receiving. PASTERNAK met URRUTIA through Eroids. PASTERNAK paid him 10% of the money he received. URRUTIA used a store owned by an Iraqi to do his money receiving. PASTERNAK described the store owner as “shady”. The store owner allowed URRUTIA to go use their Western Union machine to receive PASTERNAK'S money. No ID was required. PASTERNAK estimates that URRUTIA received approximately $1 million of PASTERNAK'S customer sales. PASTERNAK states URRUTIA kept the money in a safe and did receiving for quite a few sources. PASTERNAK stopped using URRUTIA because he felt URRUTIA had lied to him and he stole approximately $77,000 from PASTERNAK. URRUTIA also claimed the store he was using was raided and that was how the money was stolen from PASTERNAK.
52. Sometime in 2012, PASTERNAK moved the lab to the Miller Crest Apartments in Johnson City, Tennessee where KERSHAW was. PASTERNAK described the location as being the first door on the right after taking a right, on the second floor. KERSHAW was a money receiver at the time and the steroid manufacturing business became big. LYNDSEY SMALLMAN (SMALLMAN) and BRITTANY HALTER (HALTER) lived across from the lab. PASTERNAK had previously met SMALLMAN while employed at JCPenney. HALTER was SMALLMAN'S roommate. PASTERNAK hired SMALLMAN and eventually HALTER and SMALLMAN only did packaging and did not assist in the brewing portion of the operation.
53. PASTERNAK states they kept the lab hidden while it was at the Miller Crest Apartments in order to avoid detection in case there ever was an inspection by the apartment complex. In order to accomplish this, they usually cleaned the lab up at night and put everything away.
54. The brewing was done at ALLEN'S house. PASTERNAK claims that at the time, ALLEN had no involvement except to rent out his condo to PASTERNAK. PASTERNAK did all of the computer work, KERSHAW did all of the money receiving, and HENSLEY was kind of lazy but ordered supplies and did the labels.
55. At the time, all sales were conducted online through a site called bannerbody.com and sent to e-mail address sales@bannerbody.com. NDG contacted PASTERNAK to make a site for him due to the growth of the sales. PASTERNAK paid NDG 5% of the sales to run and host the site. All sales were conducted through e-mail and never done through the phone. They used a safe-mail account, but dissolved it a long time ago. NDG controlled the site and the server was located in the Netherlands. PASTERNAK used Vyper and StrongVPN software on laptops he controlled to reroute his IP addresses anywhere in the world. PASTERNAK admitted rerouting IP addresses was only done if you wanted to do illegal things.
56. Later in 2012, PASTERNAK hired PAM LITTLE who was KERSHAW'S ex-girifriend. The other employees remained the same and they were still renting ALLEN'S condo. GLENN JENKINS, who lives in Knoxville, Tennessee, starting doing some money receiving for PASTERNAK. KERSHAW moved from doing money receiving into brewing with HENSLEY and kept up with ordering raw powders. At this time, PASTERNAK'S family was not involved as they thought he was still in school.
57. PASTERNAK bought a house located on Millard Street in Johnson City, Tennessee. HENSLEY and KERSHAW were supposed to go in with PASTERNAK on the purchase, but they backed out. PASTERNAK provided cash to his dad and talked his dad into placing it into his name. PASTERNAK'S dad knew the money from the sale of steroids. PASTERNAK states his dad ended up paying cash to a bank through the title company assisting in the purchase. At the time, there was a nosy neighbor and the cops showed up to make sure he lived there.
58. In approximately 2013, PASTERNAK rented a house located on Mayberry in Johnson City, Tennessee. They utilized the garage to tum it into a steroid manufacturing lab with plastic to seal off areas from outside air. There was a walk through which separated from the lab in order to prevent unnecessary debris from being brought into the lab. PASTERNAK explained he thought it was a good idea to keep moving the lab. HENSLEY and KERSHAW were constantly fighting and did not like each other. While at Mayberry, the employees included HENSLEY, KERSHAW, PAM LITTLE, and DANIELLE CARTER. HALTER rarely worked after they moved from the Miller Crest apartments and shortly thereafter, she quit. SMALLMAN and PAM LITTLE did not like each other either but continued to work.
59. While PASTERNAK was in New York City, PASTERNAK picked up his money because it was easy. PASTERNAK was in New York City while the lab was located at Mayberry. PASTERNAK claimed business was super busy while he was in New York City.
60. SMALLMAN eventually quit and shortly thereafter, the lab was moved to Millard Street. This was done because of all the infighting between SMALLMAN and PAM LITTLE, PASTERNAK thought SMALLMAN was going to tell law enforcement what they were doing and where they were located. The lab workers stayed the same as Mayberry when they moved minus SMALLMAN and HALTER. URRUTIA was the primary money receiver because he could do it all. The bulk of all sales conducted were done through URRUTIA.
61. Other money receivers include GLENN JENKINS, who is a personal friend of PASTERNAK as they grew up together. He did some money receiving off and on from approximately 2012 to 2014 and estimates he received approximately $100,000 in PASTERNAK'S sales. JENKINS received a 10% cut. After taking his 10% cut, JENKINS would then mail the cash to PASTERNAK via overnight mail to a location PASTERNAK provided him, which was usually where PASTERNAK was living. The-money was usually in an envelope in a lump sum with tape around it. NDG made false ID's, but they were not very good. PASTERNAK had NDG make approximately six of these ID's and PASTERNAK provided all of these to JENKINS. PASTERNAK clarified that all of the money receivers had fake ID's in order to assist with picking up the money.
62. CHRIS JONES (JONES) also received money. PASTERNAK believed he trafficked cocaine in the past. PASTERNAK also met JONES through Eroids. JONES also ran a source with a product called Black Label. PASTERNAK utilized JONES while he was in New York City in approximately 2012 or 2013. PASTERNAK estimates that JONES picked up approximately $20,000 in customer sales and received 10% of the proceeds. PASTERNAK stopped using him because Western Union placed his fake names on the frozen list. This was also around the time Western Union implemented the policy that any amounts over $300 required an ID. JONES utilized his real name after that.
63. LISOVOY travels as part of his money receiving duties. PASTERNAK met LISOVOY when they did porn together in approximately 2009. LISOVOY did not start receiving money for PASTERNAK until approximately 2012 and did until the raids in July 2015. LISOVOY became PASTERNAK'S money receiver using fake names after URRUTIA could no longer assist PASTERNAK. LISOVOY received approximately 15% of the money he received and PASTERNAK estimates he picked up approximately $1.5 million to $2 million in PASTERNAK'S sales and conducts approximately one third of PASTERNAK'S money receiving. LISOVOY also learned the process in making fake ID's with the ribbons and holograms on the ID's. PASTERNAK estimated that LISOVOY had 20 or more ID’s he utilized in the money pick up business. LISOVOY has approximately $10,000 of PASTERNAK'S funds currently in his possession and that he (LISOVOY) had saved up approximately $100,000.
64. AUSTIN FREE (FREE) received approximately 10% of the money he received. FREE was a money receiver in approximately 2012 till 2013. FREE was a customer of PASTERNAK'S and they met through Eroids. PASTERNAK estimates FREE received approximately $20,000 in PASTERNAK'S customer sales. FREE also made big order purchases through e-mail to PASTERNAK. The payment for the big orders was cash payment through mail.
65. DANIEL BOSTON (BOSTON) received some money while PASTERNAK was in New York City. PASTERNAK met BOSTON through Eroids.
66. KATIE TWAY (TWAY) is the girlfriend of a weightlifter, Kyle Kaufman (Kaufman). Kaufman is a prior customer of PASTERNAK, but it has been awhile since he ordered any products. TWAY only received packages for Kaufman.
67. NICK SHAW was a customer of PASTERNAK, but it has been awhile since he ordered any products. SHAW is in North Carolina now.
68. MICHAEL ISREATEL is a professor at an unknown school.
69. MICHAEL VAN was a product shipper and was paid $250 per package.
70. PASTERNAK would change names for which the customers were to send their money to every 10 to 15 customer orders. PASTERNAK changed names quite a bit.
71. PASTERNAK states that after NDG received their 5%, the money receivers received their 10%, PASTERNAK'S dad received 10% as a “tithe”, and a portion of the remainder would be used to PAM LITTLE, DANIELLE CARTER, and any other employees at $25 an hour. The remainder was split between PASTERNAK, ALLEN, HENSLEY, KERSHAW, and others according to who was participating in the business at the time. PASTERNAK states he kept the cash in a backpack and would generally pay living expenses from the cash in the back pack. He also took some cash to his mom who would pay his car payment and keep up with other expenses for payment. PASTERNAK'S brothers would also pick up their cut. PASTERNAK was willing to take a polygraph to determine the truthfulness in where the money was. (Agent's note: PASTERNAK later obtained an attorney, Douglas Payne, who advised agents that PASTERNAK would not be willing to take a polygraph now that he had the advice of an attorney.)
72. After the search warrants were executed, PASTERNAK called ALLEN, HENSLEY, DANIELLE CARTER, PAM LITTLE, and LAUREN DEAN. HENSLEY and DANIELLE CARTER did not answer (because they were in custody) and ALLEN and PASTERNAK exchanged text messages. LAUREN DEAN was drunk and was freaking out after law enforcement showed up to talk with her. PAM LITTLE advised PASTERNAK that law enforcement had been to her residence to speak to her about packages, but she told PASTERNAK she did not say anything. PASTERNAK also went to see attorney Tom Testerman (Tom Testerman is the attorney for PASTERNAK'S parents). PASTERNAK also tried to visit HENSLEY and DANIELLE CARTER at their residence, but they were not home. PASTERNAK went to 24 Lake Village court and gathered clothes and tried to visit with LAUREN DEAN, but she was not at home. PASTERNAK went back to Newport, Tennessee to stay with his parents after getting his clothes.
73. In order to shut down Eroids, you must shut down NDG as well because they one in the same.
74. PASTERNAK ended the conversation by invoking his right to speak to an attorney before continuing the interview. The interview concluded at approximately 15:40.
I prepared this memorandum on July 31, 2015, after refreshing my memory from notes made during and immediately after the interview with JOEL PASTERNAK.
Jimmy Cline
Special Agent
Wow what a wild read. Thanks for finding this Millard. Speaking of MetroPillar I’ve used some of his gear Talk about a walk down memory lane.
Talk about a walk down memory lane. BrockSamson42
Member
Actually that's a funny point, 3 years of payroll for the entire DEA operation that busted an enterprise of only 2M lmao
So ya think that adds up to well over 2M ?
Iamnatty
Well-known Member
Wow literally told them everything and Still got 9 years.
The cooperation was not a condition of a plea agreement. He spoke "voluntarily" to feds for over 6 hours before he requested an attorney. So he had no leverage. I expect a plea agreement would have potentially demanded even more information and disclosure.
I always wondered if the info from this bust had any (in)direct consequences for any party discussed.Wow what a wild read. Thanks for finding this Millard. Speaking of MetroPillar I’ve used some of his gear
malfeasance
Well-known Member
I still have no clue why anybody talks to law enforcement, answers questions, anything. Shut up and get an attorney.
I am guessing Joel Pasternak is still in prison.
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