I brewed this test prop at 160/ml

[ludi_janez]

Hello guys, i brewed test P at 160mg/ml. I used:
35% BB
0.5% BA
Rest mct oil.
The problem is this one hurts unreal. I have brewed this powder before at 70mg/ml with 15% BB and it is good product, not much pain. I now wanted to reduce the amount of oil per inj.
I have only baked it for 10 mins at 130 celsius, i usually do it for a longer time.
So i have two options:
A)either bake it more, to better dissolve that test p in oil.
B)cut it with mct oil and make it to 100mg/ml.
The first one i dont know if its gonna work though but im gonna try it.
Anything else i could do?

Also, does working out the muscle right after i pinned improve or deteriorate the PIP?

 

[Benny]

Dilute it down. My experience, anything over 100mg/ml of prop is going to lead to pain.

 

[XKawN]

Can you give the exact amounts of everything you used. Would help.

 

[Benny]

I generally use 2% BA and 15% BB for just about everything

 

[ATodd]

Hello guys, i brewed test P at 160mg/ml. I used:
35% BB
0.5% BA
Rest mct oil.
The problem is this one hurts unreal. I have brewed this powder before at 70mg/ml with 15% BB and it is good product, not much pain. I now wanted to reduce the amount of oil per inj.
I have only baked it for 10 mins at 130 celsius, i usually do it for a longer time.
So i have two options:
A)either bake it more, to better dissolve that test p in oil.
B)cut it with mct oil and make it to 100mg/ml.
The first one i dont know if its gonna work though but im gonna try it.
Anything else i could do?

Also, does working out the muscle right after i pinned improve or deteriorate the PIP?

Cut it to make 100, you may want to add a little more BA since you're going to be diluting it by about 37%. It fun to play around and make different concentrations, but you're not going to reinvent the wheel in your kitchen. Most of the concentrations you see out there, are what they are for a reason.

atodd

ps you can do higher concentrations of Prop by using EO or Guiacol, but still kinda hurts

 

[T_verde77]

I wouldn't go higher than 100mg/ml. Most ugl do it that way for a reason bud. no pain no gain lol

 

[Nordic]

you can make 200mg/ml with little pip if you use straight EO for a carrier instead of mct

 

[rutman]

You don't have enough BA. Pharma uses .9% for a reason. I'd never go lower than 1% for sterility reasons.

 

[ludi_janez]

where did u see pharma use 0.9% BA? Some pharmas use 0.0% BA. look on the label of bayer primobolan.
0.5% is more than enough if you do it clean, filter 0.22 and bake it.
screw EO and Guaiacol im not putting that poison into my body.

 

[rutman]

where did u see pharma use 0.9% BA? Some pharmas use 0.0% BA. look on the label of bayer primobolan.
0.5% is more than enough if you do it clean, filter 0.22 and bake it.
screw EO and Guaiacol im not putting that poison into my body.

Nobody uses 0% BA.... That's the key ingredient that keeps the compound sterile. It's in there whether it's on the label or not.

5% will work, but can cause tissue damage, not to mention pip. That's way too much. 1-2% is standard.

After running it thru a .22, the product is considered completely sterile. Baking is not needed, and can only potentially degrade the hormone.

 

[Big_poppa_Bren]

Agreed, baking is just that thing that's out there. Does absolutely nothing for the sterility of the finished product. .22 filter and a sterile vial/stopper is all that is needed

 

[ludi_janez]

5% BA? u serious?

and how come baking does nothing for sterility when most of the bacteria die at 80 degrees Celsius. I bake it at 130 deg C and thats faar from degrading the hormone in my opinion

 

[Big_poppa_Bren]

It does nothing for sterility since the brew is sterile after .22 filter. Why bake if you don't need to? Just a waste of time and another piece of regurgitated bullshit that people believe.

Because Watson bake there test right?

 

[XKawN]

Well, both you guys are right, really. After adding ba and filtering you shouldn't need to bake. It's an added step that won't hurt/degrade the hormone at those temps. Some ug labs don't even filter, they just bake. Definitely not my cup of tea. I use heat during the brewing process for reasons other than sterilizing. Helps with mixing and expiditing the brewing and filtering. Oh well, to each there own.

 

[rutman]

If I ever use heat, it's only to speed up, or to bring the compound into solution faster. Not to sterilize.

 

[Notits]

where did u see pharma use 0.9% BA? Some pharmas use 0.0% BA. look on the label of bayer primobolan.
0.5% is more than enough if you do it clean, filter 0.22 and bake it.
screw EO and Guaiacol im not putting that poison into my body.

Bake it - lol...

 

[hotdog23]

130 C is certainly high enough to damage most hormones. The more sensitive are vulnerable @ temps below 200 F. How much I do not know

 

[Jakan]

I made some tests of concentrations with Guaicaol + BB . 25% BB+10% guaiacol can hold

200mg/ml testo acetate
150mg testo propionate
200mg/ml testo phenylpropionate
400mg/ml tren.enanthate
300mg/ml drosta.enanthate ( may be more, dont test it )

150mg nandro.phenylpropionate - crushed

 

[XKawN]

Holding is only half the battle.

 

[Jakan]

For sure. But for someone who looking for high concentracion coul be a way.