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ANARCHY – METRIBOLONE
Metribolone, (also known as Methyltrienolone or R1881) is the most powerful, non-aromatizable anabolic androgenic steroid available and its also 27 x more potent than testosterone. It is the 17-methylated derivative of Trenbolone, and is a similarly potent anabolic steroid, but with high potential for hepatotoxicity. This is the most powerful oral steroid that will ever be available on the market.

Anarchy 2.5mg has 100 capsules/ bottle


METHATREN
Methatren a.k.a Oral Tren, Metribolone, Methyltrienolone or R1881 is an ultra potent, non-aromatizable androgen which has also been used as a photo-affinity label for the androgen receptor. It is the 17-methylated derivative of Trenbolone, ‘the meth of tren’ and is a similarly potent anabolic steroid, but with high potential for hepatotoxicity
Methatren 2mg is the most powerful injectable steroid ever created and as such needs to be treated with respect and used for no longer than 4 weeks at a time. Using this product (or its oral version ‘Anarchy’) one (1) hour before training will temporarily turn you into the hulk.

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anyone experienced their phentermine? Ive been using pharmasource's phentermine and that one is great. Too bad hes probably gone. I hope this one is legit since its the only source that sells it.
 
Rep pay isn't what most would think. Put it this way you can't make a living off it.

The original bad report was posted. The admin panicked because of the bad report and acted on there own without the go ahead from X or Marcus to change the report to look good. The real report was posted to show our transparency but ended up back firing.

I am ok reppng IA because I believe in second chances. People make mistakes everyday, and some get fired from their job because of that mistake, when they should get fired. I good boss leader, would pull that employee to the side and speak to him her ask questions to see how she/he got to that mistake. Then either work out a plan to mentor that employee so he or she learns what is expected/required of him/her or find a Sr. Manger to take that employee under their wing to mentor. If that fails then let the employee go.

We made a crucial error. And we admitted to it. We stand by our products and will continue to do business in a professional manner and provide great customer service as well.
I submit the Simec report was posted to defraud potential customers and pump up existing customers by showing false results. The the conspirator jumped the gun, however, and fallout continues to plague your company.
As I stated in an earlier post, I was present at asf(believe that was the site) the day and at the moment the results were posted.
You folks were spinning. If I remember correctly, the mistake was blamed on a secretary or an assistant of some sort who was supposedly sitting at a desk in an office setting somewhere.
I remember thinking to myself how ridiculous it sounded. The legit Pharmaceutical company angle was being played up.
I don't know if this 21salute was around then or not?
Another thing to consider and that lends to the belief that the fake reports were part of a much larger conspiracy of purposefully mislabeling gear and it being company policy to do so.
I swear to God for an hour or so this supposed international pharmaceutical company could be seem for what it truly was; a small time operation ran by a few greedy scum bags trying to snag more than their share of the revenue one board can generate and doing so with one of the older bullshit scams of claiming they have high dosed gear with no pip. Your guy was sitting in his bedroom or basement working/scamming on his laptop answering emails. His partner decided to start drinking before he was done the day before and forgot to tell dude he didnt get around to changing up the results. No corporate offices. No laboratories. 2 guys fucking off communication.
Asylum of goldstar/kronus. and Patriot(among others) is another lying scumbag who claims to have this unicorn corraled to use at his discretion. He doesn't and neither does IA.
I've seen Asylum squirm when blood came back on his sust 600 and they show results for sust 250. You both and every other lying source all claim the same thing. The wrong label was placed on the vial. As if the test E 500 and test E 200 are right next to each other on the shelf and so innocently confused. The scam has been done a hundred times before and will be done again.
Thats the issue. The intent was there. You people didn't have an epiphany and are now on the straight and narrow. Same dirty players trying to keep the bullshit straight.
Your other comment about reps not earning much. Xsbobber's sole income at the time of the Simec report was repping IA. He lived and breathed with the company. He was going to lie and say absolutely anything to keep the lights on.
 
I submit the Simec report was posted to defraud potential customers and pump up existing customers by showing false results. The the conspirator jumped the gun, however, and fallout continues to plague your company.
As I stated in an earlier post, I was present at asf(believe that was the site) the day and at the moment the results were posted.
You folks were spinning. If I remember correctly, the mistake was blamed on a secretary or an assistant of some sort who was supposedly sitting at a desk in an office setting somewhere.
I remember thinking to myself how ridiculous it sounded. The legit Pharmaceutical company angle was being played up.
I don't know if this 21salute was around then or not?
Another thing to consider and that lends to the belief that the fake reports were part of a much larger conspiracy of purposefully mislabeling gear and it being company policy to do so.
I swear to God for an hour or so this supposed international pharmaceutical company could be seem for what it truly was; a small time operation ran by a few greedy scum bags trying to snag more than their share of the revenue one board can generate and doing so with one of the older bullshit scams of claiming they have high dosed gear with no pip. Your guy was sitting in his bedroom or basement working/scamming on his laptop answering emails. His partner decided to start drinking before he was done the day before and forgot to tell dude he didnt get around to changing up the results. No corporate offices. No laboratories. 2 guys fucking off communication.
Asylum of goldstar/kronus. and Patriot(among others) is another lying scumbag who claims to have this unicorn corraled to use at his discretion. He doesn't and neither does IA.
I've seen Asylum squirm when blood came back on his sust 600 and they show results for sust 250. You both and every other lying source all claim the same thing. The wrong label was placed on the vial. As if the test E 500 and test E 200 are right next to each other on the shelf and so innocently confused. The scam has been done a hundred times before and will be done again.
Thats the issue. The intent was there. You people didn't have an epiphany and are now on the straight and narrow. Same dirty players trying to keep the bullshit straight.
Your other comment about reps not earning much. Xsbobber's sole income at the time of the Simec report was repping IA. He lived and breathed with the company. He was going to lie and say absolutely anything to keep the lights on.
My thought exactly, thank you. Now if I could only organize my thoughts and sound as intelligent as you. No wonder I turned out to be a rough neck in heavy construction.
 
I submit the Simec report was posted to defraud potential customers and pump up existing customers by showing false results. The the conspirator jumped the gun, however, and fallout continues to plague your company.
As I stated in an earlier post, I was present at asf(believe that was the site) the day and at the moment the results were posted.
You folks were spinning. If I remember correctly, the mistake was blamed on a secretary or an assistant of some sort who was supposedly sitting at a desk in an office setting somewhere.
I remember thinking to myself how ridiculous it sounded. The legit Pharmaceutical company angle was being played up.
I don't know if this 21salute was around then or not?
Another thing to consider and that lends to the belief that the fake reports were part of a much larger conspiracy of purposefully mislabeling gear and it being company policy to do so.
I swear to God for an hour or so this supposed international pharmaceutical company could be seem for what it truly was; a small time operation ran by a few greedy scum bags trying to snag more than their share of the revenue one board can generate and doing so with one of the older bullshit scams of claiming they have high dosed gear with no pip. Your guy was sitting in his bedroom or basement working/scamming on his laptop answering emails. His partner decided to start drinking before he was done the day before and forgot to tell dude he didnt get around to changing up the results. No corporate offices. No laboratories. 2 guys fucking off communication.
Asylum of goldstar/kronus. and Patriot(among others) is another lying scumbag who claims to have this unicorn corraled to use at his discretion. He doesn't and neither does IA.
I've seen Asylum squirm when blood came back on his sust 600 and they show results for sust 250. You both and every other lying source all claim the same thing. The wrong label was placed on the vial. As if the test E 500 and test E 200 are right next to each other on the shelf and so innocently confused. The scam has been done a hundred times before and will be done again.
Thats the issue. The intent was there. You people didn't have an epiphany and are now on the straight and narrow. Same dirty players trying to keep the bullshit straight.
Your other comment about reps not earning much. Xsbobber's sole income at the time of the Simec report was repping IA. He lived and breathed with the company. He was going to lie and say absolutely anything to keep the lights on.
Hay hit me up
 
I submit the Simec report was posted to defraud potential customers and pump up existing customers by showing false results. The the conspirator jumped the gun, however, and fallout continues to plague your company.
As I stated in an earlier post, I was present at asf(believe that was the site) the day and at the moment the results were posted.
You folks were spinning. If I remember correctly, the mistake was blamed on a secretary or an assistant of some sort who was supposedly sitting at a desk in an office setting somewhere.
I remember thinking to myself how ridiculous it sounded. The legit Pharmaceutical company angle was being played up.
I don't know if this 21salute was around then or not?
Another thing to consider and that lends to the belief that the fake reports were part of a much larger conspiracy of purposefully mislabeling gear and it being company policy to do so.
I swear to God for an hour or so this supposed international pharmaceutical company could be seem for what it truly was; a small time operation ran by a few greedy scum bags trying to snag more than their share of the revenue one board can generate and doing so with one of the older bullshit scams of claiming they have high dosed gear with no pip. Your guy was sitting in his bedroom or basement working/scamming on his laptop answering emails. His partner decided to start drinking before he was done the day before and forgot to tell dude he didnt get around to changing up the results. No corporate offices. No laboratories. 2 guys fucking off communication.
Asylum of goldstar/kronus. and Patriot(among others) is another lying scumbag who claims to have this unicorn corraled to use at his discretion. He doesn't and neither does IA.
I've seen Asylum squirm when blood came back on his sust 600 and they show results for sust 250. You both and every other lying source all claim the same thing. The wrong label was placed on the vial. As if the test E 500 and test E 200 are right next to each other on the shelf and so innocently confused. The scam has been done a hundred times before and will be done again.
Thats the issue. The intent was there. You people didn't have an epiphany and are now on the straight and narrow. Same dirty players trying to keep the bullshit straight.
Your other comment about reps not earning much. Xsbobber's sole income at the time of the Simec report was repping IA. He lived and breathed with the company. He was going to lie and say absolutely anything to keep the lights on.
You are pretty spot on with how everything took place on ASF. The only thing that you might not know is all the things going on behind the scenes with the mods.

Now I won't say everything you posted here I said verbatim when I opened this thread. But I started this thread off by saying many of the valid points you have made.

I was around ASF when it went down. I was a customer of IA. I was also a tester of their high mg test e. When they set up something like a control group. My numbers came back spot on.

Now I placed a huge order with IA that year. For test cyp 500. I was pinning what I thought was 200mgs a week. When I got labs I was severely disappointed very low. not even in range. I was fighting arguing with X. He then did some research and found out it was mislabeled and ask me to test again as if it were 300mg/ml. I get labs again. This time there were on point. Situation was fixed. I still have a few vials from that batch I purchased last year.

When I was asked to Rep I said yes because in their time at ASF they provided good customer service and the gear is good. Despite the messed up report that was posted at it's original report then changed. Even before I was a rep I believe it was truly a mistake. And I said yes to the offer.

Especially since I know all labs make mistakes. And if a lab makes mistakes and still hangs around same name. I believe that they are doing their best to provide good gear.

I know you remember the issue with Pharmacom NPP looking like a vial full of cotton. Pharmacom was the first ugl I used and had great results. That mistake didn't steer me clear. They had shipping issues or some issue responding to messages of customers orders. I might be a little off with this but it was something to that effect.

I have a lot of respect for you not only because you are vet, but you contribute and help. You're concerns and trust issues with IA have been voiced intelligently and not disrespectfully.

You don't just troll around in the underground. Many of the guys talking and bashing which is expected. Should contribute more than just bashing labs that join here. I get it, this is how we protect the community.

As a member here that most of their contributions are negative reports based off other peoples claims on a lab. In my eyes they are just a waste here. Their word holds no weight, they ride the coattails trying to fit in.

And you and I know that there will be members that give us a shot. I just hope that they post their experience from start to finish and get some labs using the MESO protocol on blood work.

At the end of the day I know in my heart of hearts that this company isn't trying to scam anyone and that it is moving past it's transgressions. Which has been a year already and will take some more time to get people to believe that we are what we say we are.

When I started off here in MESO I was that guy bashing labs arguing not contributing to this board in a positive manner. Until I decided to look at the other sub forums and found a great one. I stayed out of the underground as far as making comments. I just read what was being said.

I have contributed here in a positive way like many the vets have. Not to extent that many vets have but I have contributed in a positive manner and have helped others as well as received help.

And my knowledge and experience are only growing exponentially now that I am around elite level lifter training with them and being coach by a great. Knowledge that I learn that will be shared here. Some things most now other things many might not know.

Just today in out squat training Layne Norton made it up to our gym to train with us. My contributions here will continue to be positive. And the members here that know me personally know how I am and how helpful I am. You might fight other people saying this same thing on other boards that I a member of.

You have you thoughts, opinions and feelings towards IA and I can't change that. I respect you and your thoughts and opinion.

Take care
 
When I made my last post I wasn't aware that Franchise had been exposed as a rep for IA. Meso is different from any other board I've been a part of and I've been a part of more than I can remember. When the underground opened in 2012 many believed it was the reopening of the Classified's.(I'm seriously lacking sleep but I believe thats what we called it when it was a part of meso). It wasn't.
Millard had a vision of what he wanted. His goal was to promote harm reduction as well as have a truly uncensored forum. He made it clear that meso wasn't a source board. The sheer # of members(new members specifically) made the underground and its members(again, noobs) targets for both honest and dishonest sources.
I've said in the past that there are 2 kinds of steroid forums. 10 years ago it was cut and dry. You had the REAL boards and you had the for profit boards that gave mod control to sources who could edit and delete posts and threads in their part of the board that they paid for.
Many of the good boards are no longer with us.
For example....shit boards were ironmanmag, promuscle, steroidology, and Elitefitness to name a few. The owners at these boards showed little concern about members health and well being...both physically and financially.(Can't forget OLM. I hate the owner and his cronies.) They protected the sources that paid to be on their boards.
Then you had theironden, ab, ugbb, and meso. Owners had staff that looked out for members. Sources may have had mod controls some placed but were checked by staff. I have to say that if you weren't part of the "in crowd"...which meant having status(vip tag)....on the real boards you didn't get much action because you didnt have access to many sources. This was necessary for security and safety of the members and sources alike.
LE started to catch up and began infiltrating our Community around 2005 and with Operation Gear Grinder and then with RAW DEAL.
The climate at meso since the Underground opened has been tough on sources. On other boards trusted sources are treated with respect and as friends to the Community. These sources on ab and theden, etc have proven over time that they can be trusted. Here at meso, most of the sources coming through were new themselves and couldn't be trusted because they had yet to earn it.

I'm sorry fellas...I just read what I've written and it doesn't make much sense. My head isn't really in it. I've been checking in more from muscle memory and to stay grounded, I believe. I'm losing my mind and haven't slept more than occasionally dozing off unintentionally here and there for the last week or so.
I've mentioned the issues my daughter has been having in a couple of posts. She was in Greece for a month with her mother(my ex) and got back on the 28th of last month. About a week before she left for Greece she came home after being in a rehab in Rosarito, Mexico.
It was an ibogaine clinic that also incorporated ayahuasca and DMT. She has a mean opiate addiction. She sounded so wonderful during her stay at the clinic as well as when she got back. Unfortunately, a little more than 24hrs after she came home her mother found her unconscious in her room with a needle next to her.
She was good in Greece. I knew it was going to be rough when she got back. Well, my ex found her stash a couple of days after they came home and lost it. She was going to come stay with my wife and I but never made it over. She's gone missing. She's 22 and get that she's probably with some friends or a friend but its so unlike her to not be in touch. She's far from grown up and in the past would stay away for a day or 2 before coming back. She doesn't have money.
My ex has filed a report with local police.
When she fell out before they left for Greece my ex was able to get me the contacts and texts from her phone and I was able to get the names and #'s of her most recent connects. I visited them a month ago and again this last week. We live in a resort community and its really quite small. The locals know each other. Unless her connects are extremely good liars and have an extremely strong constitution, they haven't seen her. I knew who her connects were and they knew of me before i reintroduced myself.
I haven't been this afraid in a long time. When i was 12 my parents were in the then Soviet Union on vacation visiting family when the Chernobyl melt down happened. Phones were down and I didn't know if my parents and grandparents were alive or dead. No internet back then. There were reports of hundreds of thousands dead and dying at one point I remember. It wasn't until they had a layover in Finland or Greenland that I knew they were ok and alive.
I've heard some terrible stories about this Desert and girls going missing.
I need to stay as cool as possible for now until i hear something. Someone has had to been feeding her the drugs. I have this horrible feeling of impending doom. I know something has happened to her. I feel it. I'm going to go and beat the 2 piece of shit connects again because someone has to have heard something.
I get that sinking feeling in my stomach. I physically feel it in my guts. Its been a long while since I haven't been able to control the tears from coming. I'm terrified. I'm losing it. I love her so much. I can't express the rage and fear. Fuck.
 
When I made my last post I wasn't aware that Franchise had been exposed as a rep for IA. Meso is different from any other board I've been a part of and I've been a part of more than I can remember. When the underground opened in 2012 many believed it was the reopening of the Classified's.(I'm seriously lacking sleep but I believe thats what we called it when it was a part of meso). It wasn't.
Millard had a vision of what he wanted. His goal was to promote harm reduction as well as have a truly uncensored forum. He made it clear that meso wasn't a source board. The sheer # of members(new members specifically) made the underground and its members(again, noobs) targets for both honest and dishonest sources.
I've said in the past that there are 2 kinds of steroid forums. 10 years ago it was cut and dry. You had the REAL boards and you had the for profit boards that gave mod control to sources who could edit and delete posts and threads in their part of the board that they paid for.
Many of the good boards are no longer with us.
For example....shit boards were ironmanmag, promuscle, steroidology, and Elitefitness to name a few. The owners at these boards showed little concern about members health and well being...both physically and financially.(Can't forget OLM. I hate the owner and his cronies.) They protected the sources that paid to be on their boards.
Then you had theironden, ab, ugbb, and meso. Owners had staff that looked out for members. Sources may have had mod controls some placed but were checked by staff. I have to say that if you weren't part of the "in crowd"...which meant having status(vip tag)....on the real boards you didn't get much action because you didnt have access to many sources. This was necessary for security and safety of the members and sources alike.
LE started to catch up and began infiltrating our Community around 2005 and with Operation Gear Grinder and then with RAW DEAL.
The climate at meso since the Underground opened has been tough on sources. On other boards trusted sources are treated with respect and as friends to the Community. These sources on ab and theden, etc have proven over time that they can be trusted. Here at meso, most of the sources coming through were new themselves and couldn't be trusted because they had yet to earn it.

I'm sorry fellas...I just read what I've written and it doesn't make much sense. My head isn't really in it. I've been checking in more from muscle memory and to stay grounded, I believe. I'm losing my mind and haven't slept more than occasionally dozing off unintentionally here and there for the last week or so.
I've mentioned the issues my daughter has been having in a couple of posts. She was in Greece for a month with her mother(my ex) and got back on the 28th of last month. About a week before she left for Greece she came home after being in a rehab in Rosarito, Mexico.
It was an ibogaine clinic that also incorporated ayahuasca and DMT. She has a mean opiate addiction. She sounded so wonderful during her stay at the clinic as well as when she got back. Unfortunately, a little more than 24hrs after she came home her mother found her unconscious in her room with a needle next to her.
She was good in Greece. I knew it was going to be rough when she got back. Well, my ex found her stash a couple of days after they came home and lost it. She was going to come stay with my wife and I but never made it over. She's gone missing. She's 22 and get that she's probably with some friends or a friend but its so unlike her to not be in touch. She's far from grown up and in the past would stay away for a day or 2 before coming back. She doesn't have money.
My ex has filed a report with local police.
When she fell out before they left for Greece my ex was able to get me the contacts and texts from her phone and I was able to get the names and #'s of her most recent connects. I visited them a month ago and again this last week. We live in a resort community and its really quite small. The locals know each other. Unless her connects are extremely good liars and have an extremely strong constitution, they haven't seen her. I knew who her connects were and they knew of me before i reintroduced myself.
I haven't been this afraid in a long time. When i was 12 my parents were in the then Soviet Union on vacation visiting family when the Chernobyl melt down happened. Phones were down and I didn't know if my parents and grandparents were alive or dead. No internet back then. There were reports of hundreds of thousands dead and dying at one point I remember. It wasn't until they had a layover in Finland or Greenland that I knew they were ok and alive.
I've heard some terrible stories about this Desert and girls going missing.
I need to stay as cool as possible for now until i hear something. Someone has had to been feeding her the drugs. I have this horrible feeling of impending doom. I know something has happened to her. I feel it. I'm going to go and beat the 2 piece of shit connects again because someone has to have heard something.
I get that sinking feeling in my stomach. I physically feel it in my guts. Its been a long while since I haven't been able to control the tears from coming. I'm terrified. I'm losing it. I love her so much. I can't express the rage and fear. Fuck.
Hey bud I'm sorry to hear all that you are going through and have gone through, sounds like you need to talk to someone either very close to you or someone who can help you coop with this. I know I'm no one to you but it sounds like you need someone. Hope all the best for you and your family.
 
When I made my last post I wasn't aware that Franchise had been exposed as a rep for IA. Meso is different from any other board I've been a part of and I've been a part of more than I can remember. When the underground opened in 2012 many believed it was the reopening of the Classified's.(I'm seriously lacking sleep but I believe thats what we called it when it was a part of meso). It wasn't.
Millard had a vision of what he wanted. His goal was to promote harm reduction as well as have a truly uncensored forum. He made it clear that meso wasn't a source board. The sheer # of members(new members specifically) made the underground and its members(again, noobs) targets for both honest and dishonest sources.
I've said in the past that there are 2 kinds of steroid forums. 10 years ago it was cut and dry. You had the REAL boards and you had the for profit boards that gave mod control to sources who could edit and delete posts and threads in their part of the board that they paid for.
Many of the good boards are no longer with us.
For example....shit boards were ironmanmag, promuscle, steroidology, and Elitefitness to name a few. The owners at these boards showed little concern about members health and well being...both physically and financially.(Can't forget OLM. I hate the owner and his cronies.) They protected the sources that paid to be on their boards.
Then you had theironden, ab, ugbb, and meso. Owners had staff that looked out for members. Sources may have had mod controls some placed but were checked by staff. I have to say that if you weren't part of the "in crowd"...which meant having status(vip tag)....on the real boards you didn't get much action because you didnt have access to many sources. This was necessary for security and safety of the members and sources alike.
LE started to catch up and began infiltrating our Community around 2005 and with Operation Gear Grinder and then with RAW DEAL.
The climate at meso since the Underground opened has been tough on sources. On other boards trusted sources are treated with respect and as friends to the Community. These sources on ab and theden, etc have proven over time that they can be trusted. Here at meso, most of the sources coming through were new themselves and couldn't be trusted because they had yet to earn it.

I'm sorry fellas...I just read what I've written and it doesn't make much sense. My head isn't really in it. I've been checking in more from muscle memory and to stay grounded, I believe. I'm losing my mind and haven't slept more than occasionally dozing off unintentionally here and there for the last week or so.
I've mentioned the issues my daughter has been having in a couple of posts. She was in Greece for a month with her mother(my ex) and got back on the 28th of last month. About a week before she left for Greece she came home after being in a rehab in Rosarito, Mexico.
It was an ibogaine clinic that also incorporated ayahuasca and DMT. She has a mean opiate addiction. She sounded so wonderful during her stay at the clinic as well as when she got back. Unfortunately, a little more than 24hrs after she came home her mother found her unconscious in her room with a needle next to her.
She was good in Greece. I knew it was going to be rough when she got back. Well, my ex found her stash a couple of days after they came home and lost it. She was going to come stay with my wife and I but never made it over. She's gone missing. She's 22 and get that she's probably with some friends or a friend but its so unlike her to not be in touch. She's far from grown up and in the past would stay away for a day or 2 before coming back. She doesn't have money.
My ex has filed a report with local police.
When she fell out before they left for Greece my ex was able to get me the contacts and texts from her phone and I was able to get the names and #'s of her most recent connects. I visited them a month ago and again this last week. We live in a resort community and its really quite small. The locals know each other. Unless her connects are extremely good liars and have an extremely strong constitution, they haven't seen her. I knew who her connects were and they knew of me before i reintroduced myself.
I haven't been this afraid in a long time. When i was 12 my parents were in the then Soviet Union on vacation visiting family when the Chernobyl melt down happened. Phones were down and I didn't know if my parents and grandparents were alive or dead. No internet back then. There were reports of hundreds of thousands dead and dying at one point I remember. It wasn't until they had a layover in Finland or Greenland that I knew they were ok and alive.
I've heard some terrible stories about this Desert and girls going missing.
I need to stay as cool as possible for now until i hear something. Someone has had to been feeding her the drugs. I have this horrible feeling of impending doom. I know something has happened to her. I feel it. I'm going to go and beat the 2 piece of shit connects again because someone has to have heard something.
I get that sinking feeling in my stomach. I physically feel it in my guts. Its been a long while since I haven't been able to control the tears from coming. I'm terrified. I'm losing it. I love her so much. I can't express the rage and fear. Fuck.
I'm truly sorry to hear this. My family and I will keep you your daughter and and family in our prayers.

I have felt that pain when my daughter was two months old and needed heart surgery and as they were trying to get x-rays she coded and needed to rushed into emergency surgery.
 
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I remember where I was going with the post I started yesterday. Franchise has been catching heat for having another handle. The boards that I've really been apart of over the years never really had reps for the sources that served them. The ugl owner or the guy sourcing would handle his thread and respond to emails and pm's.
Guys that start sourcing or that open a ugl 9.9 out of 10 times were members of some steroid board. When guys start sourcing on boards they are members of it's common for them to source with a different handle.
The owner and staff would be aware of what's going on and there isn't any issue whatsoever. It makes sense from a security standpoint. As a member the new source may have posted something that may have hinted about the area he lives in or what line of work he had been in.
Mixing in with the hundreds of other members is different than being thrust into the spotlight and being 1 of a handful of sources serving the masses. LE may be able to go back through all the previous posts the source made as a member and get a decent idea of who he is and where he is. The sum total of those posts may be a lot more revealing than the new source thought.
I've only ever sourced on private boards and when I did I used my board handle. VIP's were the only guys seeing the thread in the password protected part of those boards. I felt it was to my advantage to have my handle in the threads title because I was pretty well known and I got more clicks and business with my name in the thread.
I'm a member of a private board now and one of the domestic powder sources is brand new to sourcing. The guy behind it is a guy I've known on the boards for 15yrs. He pm'd me when he started sourcing letting me know he was sourcing under a different name.
As far as I'm concerned it would make sense for a member who was going to rep to use a different handle. He isn't brewing or shipping gear but he is directing others to sources email. I would guess that he could possibly be complicit it any conspiracy the source would find himself under indictment for.
The rep is usually being compensated with gear for his service. Doesn't make a difference if he is paid with cash or product he is profiting from revenue generated by the illegal enterprise. That is more than enough to find his name listed on any indictment along with the source.
Because of that it makes sense to use a different handle. Most reps, and most new sources for that matter, don't believe they are going to find themselves in trouble for doing what they do. With the # of sources that have been busted in the last year they would be foolish to believe that.
I know here at meso we are used to tearing into sources. That's perfectly ok and I've led the charge many times. We can do that without putting the guys who are part of an operation in more danger than they already are in by being involved as they are.
I know you guys here aren't trying to do that. You guys aren't trying to dry snitch but by putting the reps member handle out on the open board that's exactly what we're doing.
Now, things get tricky if the source has scammed members.
I believe that IA did in fact scam members at ASF. I would expect that if IA pulled something like that here that the reps would distance themselves from the source. If not then they would be fair game. I know there have been debates here at meso about posting personal info on the board for guys that reverse scam and for sources that scam. I'm from the school of thought that believes that thieves should be exposed and outed. If i'm making the decision I'm posting names and addresses of the source and his closest relatives. That's not snitching. That's retribution. With their names out in the open they would be wise to clean house. Their names are posted to make members aware they are thieves. If any member that has been ripped off happens to be close enough to the thieves home and they want to take what they are owed out of his backside so be it. I've seen that happen on more than one occasion. That LE may see it and take note is not what the intent of those posting and isn't a concern, either.
Any of you that have been to prison or even to county jail for the weekend and have seem what happens to jail house thieves know how serious a situation it is when one is caught. If its a white guy or a southern mexican here in california the thief is disciplined by his own people. Usually its a 3 or 4 on 1 for 15 seconds or so. We try to keep the shots below the face. Often a fist will slide off a shoulder and end up cracking the thief in the mouth or eye. When a cop sees the injured person at count time he'll be sent to the hole. They may do body and hand checks on the rest of the guys in the unit. Anything that looks like an injury or mark will send that person to the hole as well. It wasn't the intent to involve LE but it happened. It doesn't mean we're not gonna tune up the next thief we run into. It came as a result of the thieves actions.
Scammers are the lowest forms of life in the Community. The only thing lower, in my opinion, is reverse scammers. I can explain why if anyone doesn't understand why.
 
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@biggerben69 first of all thank you for sharing as much info as you did with the first long post. It's not an easy thing to deal with (what you talked about) and I along with a pile of other members can understand your feelings.

Secondly, thank you for bringing light to why a second handle would be needed in @franchise24 situation. It's clear as day that segregation is needed between who we are irl and who we are on these boards. I know I'm an easy target for LE with all of the info i've let up over the past year + and if I started to source, rep or have any other activity with a ugl and I was doing it publicly it would only be a matter of time before I get investigated and most likely arrested. So, a second handle is something that's very safe and appealing to someone wanting to participate in ugl business, obviously.

Personally, I'm not bent that franchise had a second handle for it. Now, if he was using a second handle and trying to be two members at the same time, casual everyday members, I would take offense to that.
 
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@biggerben69 first of all thank you for sharing as much info as you did with the first long post. It's not an easy thing to deal with (what you talked about) and I along with a pile of other members can understand your feelings.

Secondly, thank you for bringing light to why a second handle would be needed in @franchise24 situation. It's clear as day that segregation is needed between who we are irl and who we are on these boards. I know I'm an easy target for LE with all of the info i've let up over the past year + and if I started to source, rep or have any other activity with a ugl and I was doing it publicly it would only be a matter of time before I get investigated and most likely arrested. So, a second handle is something that's very safe and appealing to someone wanting to participate in ugl business, obviously.

Personally, I'm not bent that franchise had a second handle for it. Now, if he was using a second handle and trying to be two members at the same time, casual everyday members, I would take offense to that.
The second handle was for two purpose. Security and I though I wouldn't be able to continue to log my workouts in the powerlifting forum. Things workout and I can still log in the powerlifting forum. Especially now that I am gaining and being taught how to truly be a successful powerlifter by a Legend in the sport. I get to share all the little secrets that might not be shared on youtube.
 
The second handle was for two purpose. Security and I though I wouldn't be able to continue to log my workouts in the powerlifting forum. Things workout and I can still log in the powerlifting forum. Especially now that I am gaining and being taught how to truly be a successful powerlifter by a Legend in the sport. I get to share all the little secrets that might not be shared on youtube.
I'm glad you can still contribute in that regard.

As you've seen it's a slippery slope once that jump is made to rep or source. You knew that though. You know my feelings on the subject. I'd rather have a good member make that jump and have the rest of the members interest in their mind as well as their companies. A random guy with no real affiliation to the board would have, in my mind anyway, a much easier time scamming us.

I know it can go sideways no matter who is repping but I'm happier with a legit member at the helm.
 
@biggerben69 first of all thank you for sharing as much info as you did with the first long post. It's not an easy thing to deal with (what you talked about) and I along with a pile of other members can understand your feelings.

Secondly, thank you for bringing light to why a second handle would be needed in @franchise24 situation. It's clear as day that segregation is needed between who we are irl and who we are on these boards. I know I'm an easy target for LE with all of the info i've let up over the past year + and if I started to source, rep or have any other activity with a ugl and I was doing it publicly it would only be a matter of time before I get investigated and most likely arrested. So, a second handle is something that's very safe and appealing to someone wanting to participate in ugl business, obviously.

Personally, I'm not bent that franchise had a second handle for it. Now, if he was using a second handle and trying to be two members at the same time, casual everyday members, I would take offense to that.
I appreciate the kind words. Reps risk permanently fucking off their good names if the source they are working for goes south. And history tells us that many do. If the rep has any kind of conscience it can be a tough row to hoe when a source runs an exit scam or cuts ties with the Community.
Imporium comes to mind. Never mind that their sales pitch and ensuing popularity was based on the bullshit lie that their gear was brewed with Russian Raws. They ran a sale last Holloween which turned out to be the exit scam I'm referring to.
Concreteguy(think thats his handle?) was well liked and respected around the boards. Turns out he was pushing....and pushing hard to sell the lie. That he wasn't privy to the scam doesn't mean a fucking thing to me. As far as I'm concerned his name is shit. I'd have banned him and thanked him for nothing. A gesture that may have made any apology mean something would have been him splitting every penny he made(estimate value of gear he received) with the guys who ordered through him or because of him. It would probably be easier and acceptable to make a donation to a charity in the amount and prove it with a receipt. A "sorry" to guys that got beat would infuriate me and do nothing but showcase his arrogance. Like him apologizing after taking any part of the profits made by the scamming fucks means so much. Wow! He humbled himself enough to apologize to me after I was ripped off.
Not that Franchise isn't a decent guy but with some of the remarks he's made I don't get the impression that he thinks enough of his potential customers to do something like I've laid out.
@Franchise, the remarks you made that I'm referring to were made after some aggressive language thrown at you. Reps who don't make retaliatory posts seem to fare better from what I've seen. I understand that your personality isn't a turn the other cheek type. I'm curious how you would react if this source was to give us an encore performance or even took off owing members money?
Some guys would say "Sorry about your luck" because they weren't aware of the scam or "mistake" in this sources case. With their one freebie used up(if guys decide to give then a second chance here) any kind of apology from anyone connected to IA would be absolutely meaningless. You're taking a big risk here. However, you wouldn't view it as a risk if your attitude here is any indication of your true feelings about our board and its members. Nothing wrong with confidence but you were flirting with arrogance and sounded like we don't mean a whole heck of a lot to you. We're just names on a screen that you don't know in real life and have nothing to do with your day to day life. Nothing wrong with that attitude, I suppose, but its nice to know where you stand in this.
Also, thank you for the kind words in your previous post.
 
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