If all pros use higher test why you claim low test is better ?

Not all pros run high test though. Chris Bumstead supposedly only runs 500mg weekly, with no other compounds year round, but adds a bit of tren for contest prep.

The biggest difference is that a ton of open pros just run huge amounts of gear, regardless of the compound, so you'll see huge dosages of every compound used. But a ton of non open pros don't want to die at 50, and use lower dosages.

Hell, alot of big guys relegate their AAS use to trt dosages with a few minor blasts here and there. Greg Doucette is only on something like 140mg per week I think?

It's pretty much only the open guys blasting grams of anything, especially test.
 
Open pros use a LARGE spread of dosages. Like. From <1.5g at any time to >3-4g at times or on any blast. You don’t need to do what pros do to the letter. But just because they may be less cautious than you doesn’t invalidate the core concepts behind what they’re doing. Just dial it back to your needs. Diet, training, gear.
 
Who fucking cares what doses everyone uses!

This topic is an endless circle jerk of guessing and third party whispers with absolutely zero direct knowledge.

You can either be health conscious and use smaller doses or completely throw caution to the wind and run whatever the fuck you want, simple as that.
 
Who fucking cares what doses everyone uses!

This topic is an endless circle jerk of guessing and third party whispers with absolutely zero direct knowledge.

You can either be health conscious and use smaller doses or completely throw caution to the wind and run whatever the fuck you want, simple as that.

That guy is clearly a troll he literally said he was coached by Jason Blaha. He's doing it to get a rise out of people there is zero reason to engage with him after he said that, it's all fake.

youtube Jason Blaha and you will know he's 100% trolling.

I don't even understand how Ramy would still be alive 400mg of Orals per day, guy must be on some fucking insane blood pressure meds, liver aids and still extremely unhealthy if that list is even close to real.
 
That guy is clearly a troll he literally said he was coached by Jason Blaha. He's doing it to get a rise out of people there is zero reason to engage with him after he said that, it's all fake.

youtube Jason Blaha and you will know he's 100% trolling.

I don't even understand how Ramy would still be alive 400mg of Orals per day, guy must be on some fucking insane blood pressure meds, liver aids and still extremely unhealthy if that list is even close to real.
Jason Blaha is a total joke in the fitness world and if you ever got to watch any of his videos you'll be shaking your head. People who think Jason Blaha is a fitness expert are just plain delusional.
 
Not all pros run high test though. Chris Bumstead supposedly only runs 500mg weekly, with no other compounds year round, but adds a bit of tren for contest prep.

The biggest difference is that a ton of open pros just run huge amounts of gear, regardless of the compound, so you'll see huge dosages of every compound used. But a ton of non open pros don't want to die at 50, and use lower dosages.

Hell, alot of big guys relegate their AAS use to trt dosages with a few minor blasts here and there. Greg Doucette is only on something like 140mg per week I think?

It's pretty much only the open guys blasting grams of anything, especially test.
Guys at junior nationals 5 years ago were taking almost pro level amounts of gear, GH, and slin. It's not just open pros taking huge dosages. Bumstead adds a little tren on top of 500mg of test for prep? lol
 
Guys at junior nationals 5 years ago were taking almost pro level amounts of gear, GH, and slin. It's not just open pros taking huge dosages. Bumstead adds a little tren on top of 500mg of test for prep? lol

Yah no shit eh lol:rolleyes:
 
Nice, from tomorrow AM I am going to nuke my estrogen into the ground. Sub 10% here I come. Thanks man....

That would be the case just be prepared to be flat and slightly weaker. It is nice though to eat cookies and pizza everyday staying ripped.
I just wanted to drop a big thank you to Exister0. I followed your advice as outlined above and the transformation has been amazing.

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Currently and employee for bodybuilding expo for the past 5 years. So I’ve met and spoken to many pros including bikini competitors. Been coached by Jason Blaha who has his own published program out for the public. Worked side by side with Layne Norton and Tony Trigili.
So you're familiar with my boy hemingway
 
250mgs is barley enhanced? Based on who’s test levels? I bet 90% of the guys on the forum could grow on 250mgs of test, with a proper diet and training. Hell I still make gains when I “cruise” on 150mgs a week.

There are guys who compete at a high level here on Meso that can grow on 200mg Test.

Like you said brother.... Diet and mutha fucking training
 
Says the one who’s cursing and acting belligerent. You’re technically offending me which is verbal abuse. Not something to be taken lightly. I grew up in Beverly Hills CA so your behavior would land you in serious trouble.
Awwwwww. The little bitty rich boy got offended!! Bahahaha! Poor baby! Do you need to go to your safe space and cry and change your diaper? You havnt seen abuse obviously. Some people in certain places in the US would rob you and leave you for dead if you even mentioned being from Beverly Hills. Tell them how offended you are you little crybaby bitch. You don't know shit
 
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