If anti-steroid groups can buy steroids online for testing...

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If U.S.-based anti-steroid groups admit to illegally purchasing anabolic steroids over the internet in violation of the federal Controlled Substances Act and various local laws for the purpose of laboratory testing, why aren't they prosecuted?

Along with the polling, investigators from Digital Citizens wanted to see if they could order APEDs online – and found it was all too easy. Digital Citizens attempted to buy four APEDs (three anabolic steroids and one shipment of Human Growth Hormone (HGH)) online that investigators found during a search on YouTube, one of the most popular sites in the world with teens. Digital Citizens sent two of the APEDs to Microtrace LLC, a testing facility in Elgin, IL. The lab found that the steroid was what the sellers claimed it to be – Deca Durabolin®, a potentially dangerous drug that is illegal to possess without a valid prescription from a doctor. The second package – which the seller claimed to be HGH – was a fake.

Digital Citizens was charged for two other orders, but those never arrived at their final destination.

Source: New Poll: Young People Using Steroids and HGH Reaching Epidemic Status -- WASHINGTON, Oct. 8, 2013 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --
 
Yet the biggest concern, IMO, is the AIH that occurs after stopping AAS. Did the article say anything of this problem. It should have especially considering the source!!!

About The Taylor Hooton Foundation
The Taylor Hooton Foundation is a 501c3 non-profit organization that is dedicated to educating North America's young people about the dangers of anabolic steroids and other appearance and performance enhancing drugs. The friends and family of Taylor Hooton formed the Foundation in 2004 after his untimely death following his use of anabolic steroids.
 
That's the American way. If they kill someone its justifiable if a civilian does so its a homicide
 
Interesting and sad how hormones (Deca Durabolin) listed in the article; "a potentially dangerous drug". Really?!

I don't see people overdosing and dying on deca durabolin. In fact, athletes have used it for decades and different athletes have won games while on this; or other hormones. They work and increase favorable issues as we all know.

Take a look at all the athletes on the tracks and fields playing soccer, baseball and everything else. Does their physical appearance demonstrate that their health is in danger?

If they were dangerous to people then why are doctors prescribing them around the world for various medical issues?

I don't think there has ever been a single case in any country where a single person has overdosed and died on hormones (Dbol, superdrol, test-e or deca durabolin).
 
That's the American way. If they kill someone its justifiable if a civilian does so its a homicide

But the Digital Citizens Alliance is not a government organization. It is a private company.

Why would it be any different for MESO-Rx to import steroids over the internet and send them to Microtrace LLC for testing?
 
But the Digital Citizens Alliance is not a government organization. It is a private company.

Why would it be any different for MESO-Rx to import steroids over the internet and send them to Microtrace LLC for testing?

Your right.

It wouldn't surprise me though, if that group was connected to a certain politician who had a teenager that passed away from a self inflicted cause. I have sympathy for the family and the kid. But... to blame deca durabolin or other hormones for the death is bad.

If one of these groups has support of a congressman, there is no telling how much they can get away with.
 
There has to be a bigger picture as to why Taylor took his own life ..To blame steroid use seems a little premature..He had to have some other contributing factors .As if athletes are not pushed at a young age to be beyond there capacity
have you ever seen hockey mom's in Canada wow sometimes they start fights in the stands.. Maybe his parents should share a little bit of the blame also
teachers ,coaches they all need to look at what they missed ,sometimes coaches go little overboard and say things may seem little to them but have made lasting effects on the player .
 
Your right.

It wouldn't surprise me though, if that group was connected to a certain politician who had a teenager that passed away from a self inflicted cause. I have sympathy for the family and the kid. But... to blame deca durabolin or other hormones for the death is bad.

If one of these groups has support of a congressman, there is no telling how much they can get away with.

Of course, those groups who want to "save the children" and support steroid prohibition and anti-doping efforts will get away with more without any scrutiny.

If I wanted to test steroids to protect the health of consenting adults who use steroids for muscle-building purposes, that would be a no-no.
 
There has to be a bigger picture as to why Taylor took his own life ..To blame steroid use seems a little premature..He had to have some other contributing factors .As if athletes are not pushed at a young age to be beyond there capacity
have you ever seen hockey mom's in Canada wow sometimes they start fights in the stands.. Maybe his parents should share a little bit of the blame also
teachers ,coaches they all need to look at what they missed ,sometimes coaches go little overboard and say things may seem little to them but have made lasting effects on the player .

Of course, there were many factors...

Taylor Hooton reportedly “colored his hair and looked twice when he passed a mirror (Longman, 2003)” and “…was always concerned about his looks (Kix, 2004). In combination with a reported desire to be bigger suggests potential body dissatisfaction (e.g., Pope, Phillips, & Olivardia, 2000) which is associated with both AAS use (Cafri, Thompson, Ricciardelli, McCabe, Smolak, & Yesalis, 2005) and suicide (as a form of “socially-prescribed perfectionism”; Boergers et al., 1998). He had “low self-esteem” (Longman, 2003), a family history of depression (mother) and suicide attempt (sister) (Longman, 2004) and was taking anti-depressant mediation (Lexapro) (Ardis, 2005). [Interestingly, a Mail Tribune (8-10-2004) headline (Landers, 2004) seemed to echo the parents’ sentiments in these cases, reading "Drug leads to son’s suicide, family says" – but it was actually referring to Lexapro. See both Garland, 2004 and Valuck, Libby, Sills, Giese, & Allen, 2004 for a discussion of antidepressants and adolescent suicide]. His AAS use was allegedly motivated by wanting to excel at baseball (Numerous sources including father’s testimony), although some sources have suggested it had more to do with personal appearance and status.

Source: Anabolic Steroids and Suicide - A Brief Review of the Evidence
 
Yet the biggest concern, IMO, is the AIH that occurs after stopping AAS. Did the article say anything of this problem. It should have especially considering the source!!!

There has to be a bigger picture as to why Taylor took his own life ..To blame steroid use seems a little premature..He had to have some other contributing factors .

Taking a depressed and Lexapro-medicated teenage boy with a family history of depression/suicide (attempts) and forcing him into a hypogonadal state is never a good thing.

Professionals who treated Taylor Hooton made him go "cold turkey" with the discontinuation of steroids. This predictably resulted in some degree of ASIH. Yet the "professionals" were admittedly ignorant of AAS and did not make any attempt to help him restore his HPTA

If there is a moral to this story that involves steroids, it is the need to make available responsible and competent medical treatment to steroid users especially when it comes to managing side effects and restoring HPTA.

This is what the Taylor Hooton Foundation should focus on rather than demonizing steroids with scare tactics.
 
Of course, those groups who want to "save the children" and support steroid prohibition and anti-doping efforts will get away with more without any scrutiny.

If I wanted to test steroids to protect the health of consenting adults who use steroids for muscle-building purposes, that would be a no-no.

I think we have to ride this out, because there is nothing we can do to campaign common sense - facts about hormones and anti-E's... to the misguided citizens who believe hormones are the problem.

Absolute crap, that parents let kids play video games killing anybody and committing evil crimes in cyber world. Watch all the violent tv shows and movies. Pump them up over sports games and let them do all the other things that go on and on that teenagers do. Then when their kid kills somebody or hurts themself... they want to blame pro baseball players, sometimes God and everybody else but themself for the situation their kid got into.

At one point alcohol was prohibited and it returned. Mary Jane was prohibited and it's slowly returning. I'm thinking in 100 years after we are gone hormones will return too.
 
Also, just look at how many mass killings are done by people on anti depressants, or how many lives are taken daily due alcohol consumption mixed with driving. And AAS is the issue? These are actions that not only affect the person taking the substance but those they hurt/kill and the collateral damage of lives ruined in the process. Yet people choose to look at easiest of many factors and use that as the scape goat.

The danger of AAS, if any at all, is limited to the person taking the drug 99.9% of the time. AAS users just don't have a multi-billion dollar lobbying machine protecting the drug they chose to use. Big pharma would pay off and shut this group down instantly if they were picketing and going on dateline about lexapro and Prozac, but since there are few people of note that publicly support AAS it's a really easy target to pick on.
 
Also, just look at how many mass killings are done by people on anti depressants, or how many lives are taken daily due alcohol consumption mixed with driving. And AAS is the issue? These are actions that not only affect the person taking the substance but those they hurt/kill and the collateral damage of lives ruined in the process. Yet people choose to look at easiest of many factors and use that as the scape goat.

The danger of AAS, if any at all, is limited to the person taking the drug 99.9% of the time. AAS users just don't have a multi-billion dollar lobbying machine protecting the drug they chose to use. Big pharma would pay off and shut this group down instantly if they were picketing and going on dateline about lexapro and Prozac, but since there are few people of note that publicly support AAS it's a really easy target to pick on.

I would venture to say that a very large portion of crimes (rapes,murders, assaults, robberies) and suicides are committed under the influence of alcohol. But it is legal b/c prohibition didn't work so the government gave up. The war on drugs doesn't work yet they keep dumping money into it and throwing people in jail for petty drug offenses, a further burden on American taxpayers. Not to mention the futures of these drug offenders are limited if not ruined because they are now felons. [}:)]
 
I would venture to say that a very large portion of crimes (rapes,murders, assaults, robberies) and suicides are committed under the influence of alcohol. But it is legal b/c prohibition didn't work so the government gave up. The war on drugs doesn't work yet they keep dumping money into it and throwing people in jail for petty drug offenses, a further burden on American taxpayers. Not to mention the futures of these drug offenders are limited if not ruined because they are now felons. [}:)]

Couldn't have said it better
 
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