IFBB Pro example cycle legit??

Absolutely true.

Typical cycle for a big pro:
Cruise
2g Test per week
5 IU GH

Blast
3-5 or even 7 g Test/w
10+ IU GH
150 mg+ Dbol/Adrol ED
Add Mast, Deca, Eq, Winstrol as desired
interestingly some pros don't use too much Tren, although some do Halo

I want to know why pros don't use tren often, if that's true. If that was my job I was trying to get rich doing, I think I'd be on tren year round.
 
I think what most of it is that you have guys that take a gram a week and look in the mirror and don't see Seth Feroce staring back at them, so the first thought is....he HAS to be taking 5 grams a week to look like that if I take a gram and look like shit, cuz I know my diet and training are on point.
Were all guilty of that thinking one time or another. I was when i was spankin new to this bodybuilding drug world. As a couple years pass and a few cycles later i realize that its likely not the size of the dose but more like genetics being number 1 and time number 2
 
I want to know why pros don't use tren often, if that's true. If that was my job I was trying to get rich doing, I think I'd be on tren year round.
Being on tren year round isnt the best idea no matter what level you are at. There are plenty of pros that use tren, and plenty dont. Its just one compound out of many that work. Tren isnt the end all steroid, and It highly overrated imo. Look around, if tren was the answer to all our needs why do most people on it look like shit and arent chiseled specimens of granite. I do remember a few pros years ago training in Greece to go on parabolan near a show.
 
Being on anything year round is counter productive. Nature has a way of making it even all out. Myostatin n whatever...
But you got genetic guys like Levrone that turned average joe to olympia competitor in 6 months.
Thats the moment you realize anything you thought about pros dosages goes right out the window
These guys just got it
GENETICS
 
I believe it.

High dosages are beyond over-rated.

Unrelated, but I also think it's foolish for every AAS user with competitive or even non competitive ambitions to assume they NEED to achieve the upper echelons of size and use that as their rationale for aggressive AAS use.

Fact is most people will look better and bring in a better look at lower body-weights, it's just too fucking hard for most guys to build that size in the first place. And for those chasing the upper tier of size, shit's not a race and it takes an absurd amount of time and consistency.

I agree with the idea of using as little as possible to achieve what you're after, because you focus on the important variables (cardio, training, nutrition, rest). If you're disciplined, you can do absurd things with 400-650mg combined of anabolics per week until you start getting into the REALLY heavy bodyweights.[/QUOTE
So True, Its actually amazing how with less you can do more WHEN DIET IS IN TOTAL CHECK! lol at least for me its mostly diet, eating enough of the right food constantly for months and months.
 
I won't say how I learned this only because doing so could give a hint as to my actual identity, but what I know (and not from any article on the Internet or heresay) is that most pros have experimented up to about 5k test (+ other anabolics) at some point in their career but the majority seem to feel that there's no material benefit past 2000 to 2500 mg of test (not including other AAS like deca, Anadrol etc on top of that), and the "low dose guys" still take 1500-1600 test minimum.

Some take time completely off (some of the guys who only compete once a year) but most either cruise between cycles or just blast all year.

20 iu GH per day is also not unusual for the guys who have contracts and can afford it.
 
Being on anything year round is counter productive. Nature has a way of making it even all out. Myostatin n whatever...
But you got genetic guys like Levrone that turned average joe to olympia competitor in 6 months.
Thats the moment you realize anything you thought about pros dosages goes right out the window
These guys just got it
GENETICS

not sure what part of levrone's prep implies he didn't use high dosages? Obviously he wouldn't be able to grow into his shows after taking breaks if it weren't for his muscle memory he had already developed
 
I dont know what part implies he does?

That's how this part sounded to me:

"But you got genetic guys like Levrone that turned average joe to olympia competitor in 6 months.
Thats the moment you realize anything you thought about pros dosages goes right out the window"

the part about pro dosage assumptions being incorrect based on Levrone's prep - but maybe I misunderstood you
 
I personally know a guy who used 3 sust 250 a day, do the math, he was huge over 300 lbs and did other compounds too, but thats the only dosage I know for sure that he did. He was a mess, but thats the most I ever knew of anyone ever taking.
Sus 250x3 = 750 mg A DAY
x 7 days a week = 5250 mg/w

Being on tren year round isnt the best idea no matter what level you are at. There are plenty of pros that use tren, and plenty dont. Its just one compound out of many that work. Tren isnt the end all steroid, and It highly overrated imo. Look around, if tren was the answer to all our needs why do most people on it look like shit and arent chiseled specimens of granite. I do remember a few pros years ago training in Greece to go on parabolan near a show.
Because
believe it or not, Tren isn't the main mass/strength builder for competitive BBers
Anadrol is
... at 300 mg PER DAY

thats why legit anadrol should always go hand in hand with testosterona and hgh ,,ALWAYS! [...]

bodybuild is a cult of liars,, it is a cult where the abuse of anadrol is so severe that fellas have to lie,, go tell someone you take 300mg anadrol... they wont get it ,,they dont understand that 50 mg anadrol get you thick tight and veiny ...at 200lb but the 300mg is what jumps you up! they dont fuckin get it

go explain them ,, i try for many years,,both dianabola and anadrola ,, i try to make sure the newbe just dont pop up tablets all over,,but have no doubt about one thing,,

WE ALL USE ANADROLA ,,ALL OF US ,,ALL OF US! WE BLOW UP ON IT WHEN LEAN INTO NEW THICKNESS AND SIZE,, SAME FOR DIANABOLA BUT IN DIFF TIMES ,,[...]

[...] dianabola= weight and then some size..

anadrola = size and then some weight!

key for using orals as i stated before is LOW BODYFAT to begin with,, [...]

[...]what else exactly aside from trenbolona add you 1/2-1 inch on arms in a matter of coupel weeks? only anapolon and trenbolona and even trenbolona is more hardening effect and drying effect and over all quality effect,, but when it come to actualy muscle diameter size...what other drug aside from anapolona/legit anadrola,,what other drug aside from this make you grow in size of muscle while remaining same body weight or higher?

the only drug who get you to increase muscle to a point you look in the mirror and say SHIT IM THICKER IN THE RIGHT PLACES ,,the only drug who you take 100-150mg of it and you wake up 3 day later with 18 inch arm insted of 17.5 inch arm.... is anadrola,, legit anadrola,,that drug blow you up from the inside out...its not like you wake up with extra size on waist....no no friend,, you wake up with abds pushing out.....waist tight and dense...and muscles that not only appear bigger but are! bigger,, you look to the left look to the right and smile because you know that you grew you can see it! thats why we love anadrola so much and with testosterona and with equipona and with hgh and with trenbolona when needed trenbolona ....it creates big time professionals,,

we love absolitly love anadrola when low bodyfat because iti work the muscle from within,, the best SEO and it look real! because it is REAL anabolic steroid muscle builder,,

100mg of anapolona make bgi diff on physiqe...200-300mg creates dillets along with other compounds but the anapolona is there bgi time my friend [...]

gh15 approved


GH15 2.0
 
Sus 250x3 = 750 mg A DAY
x 7 days a week = 5250 mg/w


Because
believe it or not, Tren isn't the main mass/strength builder for competitive BBers
Anadrol is
... at 300 mg PER DAY

thats why legit anadrol should always go hand in hand with testosterona and hgh ,,ALWAYS! [...]

bodybuild is a cult of liars,, it is a cult where the abuse of anadrol is so severe that fellas have to lie,, go tell someone you take 300mg anadrol... they wont get it ,,they dont understand that 50 mg anadrol get you thick tight and veiny ...at 200lb but the 300mg is what jumps you up! they dont fuckin get it

go explain them ,, i try for many years,,both dianabola and anadrola ,, i try to make sure the newbe just dont pop up tablets all over,,but have no doubt about one thing,,

WE ALL USE ANADROLA ,,ALL OF US ,,ALL OF US! WE BLOW UP ON IT WHEN LEAN INTO NEW THICKNESS AND SIZE,, SAME FOR DIANABOLA BUT IN DIFF TIMES ,,[...]

[...] dianabola= weight and then some size..

anadrola = size and then some weight!

key for using orals as i stated before is LOW BODYFAT to begin with,, [...]

[...]what else exactly aside from trenbolona add you 1/2-1 inch on arms in a matter of coupel weeks? only anapolon and trenbolona and even trenbolona is more hardening effect and drying effect and over all quality effect,, but when it come to actualy muscle diameter size...what other drug aside from anapolona/legit anadrola,,what other drug aside from this make you grow in size of muscle while remaining same body weight or higher?

the only drug who get you to increase muscle to a point you look in the mirror and say SHIT IM THICKER IN THE RIGHT PLACES ,,the only drug who you take 100-150mg of it and you wake up 3 day later with 18 inch arm insted of 17.5 inch arm.... is anadrola,, legit anadrola,,that drug blow you up from the inside out...its not like you wake up with extra size on waist....no no friend,, you wake up with abds pushing out.....waist tight and dense...and muscles that not only appear bigger but are! bigger,, you look to the left look to the right and smile because you know that you grew you can see it! thats why we love anadrola so much and with testosterona and with equipona and with hgh and with trenbolona when needed trenbolona ....it creates big time professionals,,

we love absolitly love anadrola when low bodyfat because iti work the muscle from within,, the best SEO and it look real! because it is REAL anabolic steroid muscle builder,,

100mg of anapolona make bgi diff on physiqe...200-300mg creates dillets along with other compounds but the anapolona is there bgi time my friend [...]

gh15 approved


GH15 2.0
I think I would die on 300mg of Drol lol
 
I believe it.

High dosages are beyond over-rated.

Unrelated, but I also think it's foolish for every AAS user with competitive or even non competitive ambitions to assume they NEED to achieve the upper echelons of size and use that as their rationale for aggressive AAS use.

Fact is most people will look better and bring in a better look at lower body-weights, it's just too fucking hard for most guys to build that size in the first place. And for those chasing the upper tier of size, shit's not a race and it takes an absurd amount of time and consistency.

I agree with the idea of using as little as possible to achieve what you're after, because you focus on the important variables (cardio, training, nutrition, rest). If you're disciplined, you can do absurd things with 400-650mg combined of anabolics per week until you start getting into the REALLY heavy bodyweights.

I agree with this 100%

I belive you should take the least amount of drugs to reach your goals. No point using more if you dont need to.

He was just giving an example, he says he runs higher than this. I'm sure hes tried 2g a week or more but found his sweet spot with the sides and gains.

Now I'm sure there are people out there that run 5g a week, but they probably dont look as good as a ifbb pro who dedicates their life to this. I've never heard of 300mg of anadrol, that sounds absurd @master.on I have heard over 20iu a day of HGH. And I was confused when he said he would rather Nolva over Arimidex.

Realistically what do you guys think Phil Heaths test dosage is at? I dont think its as high as most people think. I would say around 1000-1500.

Off topic he did a great job explaining deca/tren dick. Had a good laugh with that one.
 
I've seen ifbb cycles of 2 g's test a week and 34 iu's GH a day...also paying about $10k a month just on tests and doctor visits.. you've been lied to.
 
Sus 250x3 = 750 mg A DAY
x 7 days a week = 5250 mg/w


Because
believe it or not, Tren isn't the main mass/strength builder for competitive BBers
Anadrol is
... at 300 mg PER DAY

thats why legit anadrol should always go hand in hand with testosterona and hgh ,,ALWAYS! [...]

bodybuild is a cult of liars,, it is a cult where the abuse of anadrol is so severe that fellas have to lie,, go tell someone you take 300mg anadrol... they wont get it ,,they dont understand that 50 mg anadrol get you thick tight and veiny ...at 200lb but the 300mg is what jumps you up! they dont fuckin get it

go explain them ,, i try for many years,,both dianabola and anadrola ,, i try to make sure the newbe just dont pop up tablets all over,,but have no doubt about one thing,,

WE ALL USE ANADROLA ,,ALL OF US ,,ALL OF US! WE BLOW UP ON IT WHEN LEAN INTO NEW THICKNESS AND SIZE,, SAME FOR DIANABOLA BUT IN DIFF TIMES ,,[...]

[...] dianabola= weight and then some size..

anadrola = size and then some weight!

key for using orals as i stated before is LOW BODYFAT to begin with,, [...]

[...]what else exactly aside from trenbolona add you 1/2-1 inch on arms in a matter of coupel weeks? only anapolon and trenbolona and even trenbolona is more hardening effect and drying effect and over all quality effect,, but when it come to actualy muscle diameter size...what other drug aside from anapolona/legit anadrola,,what other drug aside from this make you grow in size of muscle while remaining same body weight or higher?

the only drug who get you to increase muscle to a point you look in the mirror and say SHIT IM THICKER IN THE RIGHT PLACES ,,the only drug who you take 100-150mg of it and you wake up 3 day later with 18 inch arm insted of 17.5 inch arm.... is anadrola,, legit anadrola,,that drug blow you up from the inside out...its not like you wake up with extra size on waist....no no friend,, you wake up with abds pushing out.....waist tight and dense...and muscles that not only appear bigger but are! bigger,, you look to the left look to the right and smile because you know that you grew you can see it! thats why we love anadrola so much and with testosterona and with equipona and with hgh and with trenbolona when needed trenbolona ....it creates big time professionals,,

we love absolitly love anadrola when low bodyfat because iti work the muscle from within,, the best SEO and it look real! because it is REAL anabolic steroid muscle builder,,

100mg of anapolona make bgi diff on physiqe...200-300mg creates dillets along with other compounds but the anapolona is there bgi time my friend [...]

gh15 approved


GH15 2.0

You don't really believe gh15 was a top Olympia competitor like he claimed do you? Much of what he said is true, and much of it exaggerated...what he preached over the years changed from time to time, depending largely on the type of gear he was trying to promote. His board is censored x 1000 lol.
 
Realistically what do you guys think Phil Heaths test dosage is at? I dont think its as high as most people think. I would say around 1000-1500.

About double that.

1000-1500 is probably what Jeff Seid takes lol, not Phil Heath! Remember, when looking at dosage relative to muscle mass, a 1000 mg supposed Phil Heaths would translate to your typical state competitor only taking 500 mg or so lol. Phil Heath doesn't need to weigh double of someone to hold more than double the muscle mass, and you think he's taking typical gym rat dosages? As multiple Mr Olympia winner where his livelihood and legacy is based on his winnings I think it's absurd to assume he would limit his dosages like that.
 
300 I would such a high BP it would be shooting out my nose lol

part of pro genetics is being able to stay relatively healthy while taking drugs that most of us simply wouldn't be able to handle. That said, 300 mg anadrol sounds like the exception not the rule regardless lol.
 
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